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New DNP mandate

So it looks as though this is going to be a thing. Yesterday The National Organization of Nurse Practitioner Faculties (NONPF) made the commitment to move all entry-level nurse practitioner (NP) education to the DNP degree by 2025. Which is great considering in 2 semesters I'll graduate with my MSN. Thoughts? Let's start a discussion.

http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.nonpf.org/resource/resmgr/DNP/v3_05.2018_NONPF_DNP_Stateme.pdf

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Blew past the 2015 mark pretty easily. Until I see AANP or ANCC commit to make that entry for exam certification, I won't believe it.

^ This. And until the get a handle on all the fly by night for profit online programs, not sure they will implement this.

Blew past the 2015 mark pretty easily. Until I see AANP or ANCC commit to make that entry for exam certification, I won't believe it.

Interesting. Will those bodies support the idea of it if it eliminates DE NP programs (MSN) and the money generated from those?

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Interesting. Will those bodies support the idea of it if it eliminates DE NP programs (MSN) and the money generated from those?

I'm anticipating that there will be DE DNP programs any day now, if there aren't already.

Sure make the DNP a requirement while for-profit online schools run rampant and entry qualifications wallow in the basement of clinical academia. Makes sense.

Nursing loves to project their it's with degree inflation.

I'm anticipating that there will be DE DNP programs any day now, if there aren't already.

There are plenty, one a few blocks from me. Seattle University.

Not sure how this is feasible, since plenty of MSN prepared people barely make a living.

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^ This. And until the get a handle on all the fly by night for profit online programs, not sure they will implement this.

I wonder if they even care about the current state of NP education. It sure doesn't seem like it and there is the ever present cash cow of keeping students enrolled. Even the well respected brick and mortar universities have jumped on that band wagon. It is a sad state of affairs.

I wonder if they even care about the current state of NP education. It sure doesn't seem like it and there is the ever present cash cow of keeping students enrolled. Even the well respected brick and mortar universities have jumped on that band wagon. It is a sad state of affairs.

Thank you. And it is awful.

I guess the big question is- are all schools part of this organization? Does the organization have teeth for enforcement? My guess is not...

I see DNP being "it" through one of 3 ways.

1. State boards require it. Doubt this will happen as we will have certificate practicing NPs.

2. Act of Congress. Doubt it. They don't know which way is up or down, most of the time, lol.

3. Schools stop offering MSN NPs and in 30+ years when those last graduates retire, DNPs will be the new standard

#3 most likely scenario I think, but will take many moons. Other professions like pharmacy & physical therapy have evolved doing this, as I recall.

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I thought CRNAs already adopted it?

I agree with babyNP, and have always thought this would be the way it would happen, if it ever did. However, I'm not sure that this recommendation will have any more affect than the one by the AACN. This still has to be apprived by the board of regents at every university offering an NP program, and I'm not sure that will ever happen.

One of the two major universities in my area attempted to do away with their MSN option a few years back. After one year of greatly reduced enrollment, the MSN returned the next year.

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