Having just graduated, obviously I am faced with the same feat as the rest of graduate nurses...
Anyway... I have been reading peoples posts about ATI and it's true predictive value, and it seems to me that the comprehensive tests are relatively accurate.
I took 2 ATI predictors a my university (University of Missouri - St. Louis)
On 2007 form B, I got a 76.7%, 96% probability of passing at the beginning of my last semester
On 2007 form A, I got an 81.3%, 98% probability of passing at the end of my last semester
I have been reading others posts about ATI compared to NCLEX, and it seems that it is pretty accurate. I like how ATI doesn't give anyone 100% predicted probability of passing NCLEX on the first attempt ... because it is never a guarantee!
I found it really strange though... many students in my class actually did worse on the second predictor, which was easier I thought, since I did better on it, and despite the national average being higher for form A...
One student I know got a 98 (predicted probability of passing) on the first one, and dropped to a 96 on the second, others got in the 91-96 range on the first, and then dropped into mid low 80s on the second... I really felt sorry for them, as they were forced to take a review course (either kaplan or ati or our school's). However, another student went from 91 on the first to 99 on the second...
This makes me a little weary of ATI, although their predictor tests are 180 questions, on the other focused content exams, I seemed to do pretty variably on....
Medical surgical - 76
Community health - 86
Fundamentals - 71
Leadership - 63 (guess I am not a good leader)
Maternal/newborn - 73
Pediatrics - 73
Mental health - 66 (I don't like psych anyway)
Pharm - 78
(These are all percent correct)
I have asked many RNs about the NCLEX, and I hear a lot of the sames stuff... some people say it's the hardest test they have ever taken, others say it's easy... many people I know had good predictor scores and passed... many say kaplans questions are just like the NCLEX, or maybe it's Saunders??? I have also met some nurses that are so dumb... I will probably kill myself if I don't pass it...
Eh, I signed up for Kaplan, just for the extra practice questions and because a lot of people have recommended it, but a lot of the questions are just like what the ****....
Like this one:
An 18-year-old boy had surgery yesterday for repair of a torn rotator cuff in the right shoulder. Although Demerol 75 mg IM is ordered q 3 hrs PRN, the patient has refused the medication since surgery. During morning rounds, the nurse notes that the patient's teeth are clenched, and he is diaphoretic. The nurse should
A. administer the Demerol 75 mg IM as ordered.
B. explain that taking medication will not lead to drug addiction.
C. ask the patient if he is experiencing any pain.
D. ask the patient why he has refused the medication.
The answer is C... why the hell would you assess pain if the patient has been refusing pain medication and their teeth are clenched and sweating? Is that not good enough indication that the person is in pain?
Anyway, I took the diagnostic test, got a 66.11 percent... and from what I have read on this forum that is solid. There is so much damn content to review, it's pretty much pointless it seems at this point. 2 people who passed in 75 question I know said they are only sure of like 3 questions on the NCLEX... This tells me no matter how much content you review, it is pretty much pointless... that's why I am sticking to taking questions...
Sometimes it feels like you have to be slightly retarded to pass the NCLEX. Any comments/suggestions are welcome here.