My Experience as an Non-political White Male in Nursing / NP School

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I thought I would share with you my experiences as a straight, white, non-political, low 30's - male in nursing. To avoid doxxing myself, I'll just say that I'm in a top 10 student getting my NP. I want to be very clear, I'm not saying men shouldn't go into nursing, I am saying you should understand what you're getting yourself into. Also, these are just my experiences and you could have a totally different experience.

I have an undergraduate in computer science and completed an ABSN program because I thought I'd like to work with people. The actual nursing portion of my program was great; fundamentals, pharmacology, and pathophysiology are all important classes to master. Unfortunately these courses represented a minority of the coursework. The majority of the coursework was spent essentially preaching socialism to us under the veneer of "community health" and "ethics". Now I get it, I was a little order when I went into nursing and I have a different perspective. But every single community health or ethics class was about how evil capitalism is and how there should be a government program for everything. Full disclaimer, I voted for Hilary Clinton twice and politics isn't my thing. The bias was so overwhelming and they didn't even try to hide it. I realize that socialism / communism is fashionable with the younger crowd, but I wish I would have learned about actual community health or ethical issues in nursing.

Race Issues. Yet another disclaimer, race couldn't mean less to me. We had several lectures and guest seminars from prominent people in campus leadership tell us that it wasn't possible to racist against white people because white people have all the power. It was just ironic because that statement came from a dean at an IVY league school that is a person of color. We had a few students that were obsessed with race. We would be learning about cardiac issues and the medications that you use to treat the conditions. For those that don't know, African Americans typically don't respond well to Angiotensin Receptor Blockers (ARBs) and are typically placed on calcium channel blockers. This one girl in class went on about how it was systemic racism and prior experiences being a slave that causes African Americans to have poor cardiac health. The professor went along with it.

To summarize my ABSN experience, I learned that it was never the patients fault for their own poor outcome. The poor outcome was entirely due to being oppressed because of their race or sex; or there isn't a government program available for them to utilize. The lack of a government program to help afford a generic medication that costs less than $5/90 day supply is probably due to racism.

I'll post about my experience in NP school later, but as a male I'd be aware of the following before I signed up for nursing school.

  • If I could describe nursing school in one word it would be gynocentric; if you gave me two words, I'd say extreme SJWs.
  • If you are science minded, put in the extra work and go to medical school. Trust me, I have friends that did this and the majority of your time is spent learning actual medicine. I had a semester long "evidence based practice" class where we learned that grounding yourself can improve your mental health. Grounding, as in grounding yourself to an electrical outlet or going barefoot in the grass. I've taken several classes on electricity and magnetism in my undergrad. "Grounding" yourself will do absolutely nothing but we learned pseudo-science instead of medicine.
  • If you are a-political or heaven forbid lean conservative; learn to keep your ideas to yourself. I got much better grades on assignments when I learned how to write like the reincarnation of Karl Marx.
  • Group work can be a very social thing. Group work in computer science focused on results and objective goals, does your code compile? Did your robot fall over and die? Nursing group work is about how people feel about the work. It's less objective and more subjective.
  • Your program will be mostly run by women and very effeminate men. My program has a prom every year. In all fairness, my computer science department would order bunch of kegs once a month for the students.

I'm not saying don't go into nursing. Nursing is a great profession and it's very rewarding. If I had to do it over again, I would have taken the additional year and applied to medical school.

I'll share more about my experience in NP school so far at another time.

Specializes in RETIRED Cath Lab/Cardiology/Radiology.

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On 11/28/2020 at 5:01 PM, Kyrshamarks said:

The second paragraph is just flat out wrong information.  The Internet was developed jointly by DARPA and Universities.  It was developed as a secure way for Governmental and MILITARY secure communications,  The developers, once they saw how lucrative it could be to offer their product to consumers with the rise in personal computers, cashed in on it.  That is pure Capitalism.  It was developed to FIGHT Communism.

There seems to be a massive confusion on what socialism and communism are in the US.

To explain: capitalism the internet is privately owned

Socialism - we all own equal shares of the internet 

Communism - the government controls and regulates the internet.

The government regulated the research into developing it.  The government regulated the funding to the research.  The government contracted the people who did the work developing it.  The internet was created by communist principles, and still exists on those principles.

Specializes in Critical Thinking-Critical Care.

Hey guys the US secretary of state Mike Pompeo gave an interesting speech on the influence of the CCP on American educational institutions. It pretty much describes what has been discussed on this thread. America has a huge problem on its hands.

"We need students to truly stand for free speech", Mike Pompeo.

 

1 hour ago, Sciencedude1 said:

Hey guys the US secretary of state Mike Pompeo gave an interesting speech on the influence of the CCP on American educational institutions. It pretty much describes what has been discussed on this thread. America has a huge problem on its hands.

"We need students to truly stand for free speech", Mike Pompeo.

 

Interesting considering Pompeo is a diabolical tyrant. 

Specializes in LTC, Rehab..
On 5/25/2020 at 6:03 PM, guest1149052 said:

I thought I would share with you my experiences as a straight, white, non-political, low 30's - male in nursing. To avoid doxxing myself, I'll just say that I'm in a top 10 student getting my NP. I want to be very clear, I'm not saying men shouldn't go into nursing, I am saying you should understand what you're getting yourself into. Also, these are just my experiences and you could have a totally different experience.

I have an undergraduate in computer science and completed an ABSN program because I thought I'd like to work with people. The actual nursing portion of my program was great; fundamentals, pharmacology, and pathophysiology are all important classes to master. Unfortunately these courses represented a minority of the coursework. The majority of the coursework was spent essentially preaching socialism to us under the veneer of "community health" and "ethics". Now I get it, I was a little order when I went into nursing and I have a different perspective. But every single community health or ethics class was about how evil capitalism is and how there should be a government program for everything. Full disclaimer, I voted for Hilary Clinton twice and politics isn't my thing. The bias was so overwhelming and they didn't even try to hide it. I realize that socialism / communism is fashionable with the younger crowd, but I wish I would have learned about actual community health or ethical issues in nursing.

Race Issues. Yet another disclaimer, race couldn't mean less to me. We had several lectures and guest seminars from prominent people in campus leadership tell us that it wasn't possible to racist against white people because white people have all the power. It was just ironic because that statement came from a dean at an IVY league school that is a person of color. We had a few students that were obsessed with race. We would be learning about cardiac issues and the medications that you use to treat the conditions. For those that don't know, African Americans typically don't respond well to Angiotensin Receptor Blockers (ARBs) and are typically placed on calcium channel blockers. This one girl in class went on about how it was systemic racism and prior experiences being a slave that causes African Americans to have poor cardiac health. The professor went along with it.

To summarize my ABSN experience, I learned that it was never the patients fault for their own poor outcome. The poor outcome was entirely due to being oppressed because of their race or sex; or there isn't a government program available for them to utilize. The lack of a government program to help afford a generic medication that costs less than $5/90 day supply is probably due to racism.

I'll post about my experience in NP school later, but as a male I'd be aware of the following before I signed up for nursing school.

  • If I could describe nursing school in one word it would be gynocentric; if you gave me two words, I'd say extreme SJWs.
  • If you are science minded, put in the extra work and go to medical school. Trust me, I have friends that did this and the majority of your time is spent learning actual medicine. I had a semester long "evidence based practice" class where we learned that grounding yourself can improve your mental health. Grounding, as in grounding yourself to an electrical outlet or going barefoot in the grass. I've taken several classes on electricity and magnetism in my undergrad. "Grounding" yourself will do absolutely nothing but we learned pseudo-science instead of medicine.
  • If you are a-political or heaven forbid lean conservative; learn to keep your ideas to yourself. I got much better grades on assignments when I learned how to write like the reincarnation of Karl Marx.
  • Group work can be a very social thing. Group work in computer science focused on results and objective goals, does your code compile? Did your robot fall over and die? Nursing group work is about how people feel about the work. It's less objective and more subjective.
  • Your program will be mostly run by women and very effeminate men. My program has a prom every year. In all fairness, my computer science department would order bunch of kegs once a month for the students.

I'm not saying don't go into nursing. Nursing is a great profession and it's very rewarding. If I had to do it over again, I would have taken the additional year and applied to medical school.

I'll share more about my experience in NP school so far at another time.

The only class I've taken that had an SJW-ish, leftist vibe to it was transcultural nursing, and even then, we didn't delve into who's the most oppressed group out there, and whether or not they needed a special program in order to improve said "oppressed group's health outcomes. They just taught us about how we always need to provide "culturally competent" care to those people who belong to certain ethnic and minority groups, etc. 

Specializes in Former NP now Internal medicine PGY-3.
On 5/25/2020 at 6:03 PM, guest1149052 said:

I thought I would share with you my experiences as a straight, white, non-political, low 30's - male in nursing. To avoid doxxing myself, I'll just say that I'm in a top 10 student getting my NP. I want to be very clear, I'm not saying men shouldn't go into nursing, I am saying you should understand what you're getting yourself into. Also, these are just my experiences and you could have a totally different experience.

I have an undergraduate in computer science and completed an ABSN program because I thought I'd like to work with people. The actual nursing portion of my program was great; fundamentals, pharmacology, and pathophysiology are all important classes to master. Unfortunately these courses represented a minority of the coursework. The majority of the coursework was spent essentially preaching socialism to us under the veneer of "community health" and "ethics". Now I get it, I was a little order when I went into nursing and I have a different perspective. But every single community health or ethics class was about how evil capitalism is and how there should be a government program for everything. Full disclaimer, I voted for Hilary Clinton twice and politics isn't my thing. The bias was so overwhelming and they didn't even try to hide it. I realize that socialism / communism is fashionable with the younger crowd, but I wish I would have learned about actual community health or ethical issues in nursing.

Race Issues. Yet another disclaimer, race couldn't mean less to me. We had several lectures and guest seminars from prominent people in campus leadership tell us that it wasn't possible to racist against white people because white people have all the power. It was just ironic because that statement came from a dean at an IVY league school that is a person of color. We had a few students that were obsessed with race. We would be learning about cardiac issues and the medications that you use to treat the conditions. For those that don't know, African Americans typically don't respond well to Angiotensin Receptor Blockers (ARBs) and are typically placed on calcium channel blockers. This one girl in class went on about how it was systemic racism and prior experiences being a slave that causes African Americans to have poor cardiac health. The professor went along with it.

To summarize my ABSN experience, I learned that it was never the patients fault for their own poor outcome. The poor outcome was entirely due to being oppressed because of their race or sex; or there isn't a government program available for them to utilize. The lack of a government program to help afford a generic medication that costs less than $5/90 day supply is probably due to racism.

I'll post about my experience in NP school later, but as a male I'd be aware of the following before I signed up for nursing school.

  • If I could describe nursing school in one word it would be gynocentric; if you gave me two words, I'd say extreme SJWs.
  • If you are science minded, put in the extra work and go to medical school. Trust me, I have friends that did this and the majority of your time is spent learning actual medicine. I had a semester long "evidence based practice" class where we learned that grounding yourself can improve your mental health. Grounding, as in grounding yourself to an electrical outlet or going barefoot in the grass. I've taken several classes on electricity and magnetism in my undergrad. "Grounding" yourself will do absolutely nothing but we learned pseudo-science instead of medicine.
  • If you are a-political or heaven forbid lean conservative; learn to keep your ideas to yourself. I got much better grades on assignments when I learned how to write like the reincarnation of Karl Marx.
  • Group work can be a very social thing. Group work in computer science focused on results and objective goals, does your code compile? Did your robot fall over and die? Nursing group work is about how people feel about the work. It's less objective and more subjective.
  • Your program will be mostly run by women and very effeminate men. My program has a prom every year. In all fairness, my computer science department would order bunch of kegs once a month for the students.

I'm not saying don't go into nursing. Nursing is a great profession and it's very rewarding. If I had to do it over again, I would have taken the additional year and applied to medical school.

I'll share more about my experience in NP school so far at another time.

Glad I went to nursing school ten years ago before all this BS, and finished med school probably before a lot of this garbage started. I am left leaning but still find a lot of the SJW stuff pretty trashy and emotionally driven. I couldn’t imagine doing nursing school nowadays, probably just a bunch of virtue signaling and self pity disguised as hard work.

I don't think school is that bad, and I definitely think that work atmosphere in my hospital is not emotionally driven, in fact, perhaps too far ignorant/right-leaning at times. At least people are getting vaccinated.

Specializes in Critical Thinking-Critical Care.

Hello everyone, I am about to finish my nursing education at a public university in Texas. The only course in which I was exposed to Marxist ideology was in my sociology class. My other courses were pretty much straight forward nursing courses which were concerned with pathophysiology, pharmacology, and how to provide the best possible care for all patients. I was expecting Marxist ideology in my public health course like the OP but that was not my experience. Marxism though has definitely taken root in the US and we should not be surprised by the ideology being pushing in many US institutions. Especially considering that many universities are accepting billions in dollars from the Chinese Communist Party.

Marxism is starting to take hold throughout the globe. The good news is that people are waking up and starting to notice. Even the Catholic church is starting to talk about the spread of Marxism throughout the globe, and the threat of the World Economic Forum's "Great Reset" were you will "own nothing and be happy" aka communism. Just my luck, I'm finishing school and now the elites don't want me to own anything.

 

What is really scary is the thought of every country adopting China's method of governance where everyone is surveilled 24 hours a day with facial recognition systems, cameras in every street corner, artificial intelligence, and 5g networks collecting data from all your devices. They use this massive infrastructure to implement their social management system which primarily uses a social credit score to reward behavior deemed acceptable and punish undesirable behavior such as speaking out against communism. It is like our credit score but the social credit score is effected by your everyday behavior. The sole purpose of social credit scores is to control the behavior of the public. 

Anyways the blend of artificial intelligence, quantum computing, 5g, facial recognition systems, and biosensors is called the 4th industrial revolution. The 4th industrial revolution has the power to enslave humanity under a high tech totalitarian government that the world has never seen before. 

 

  

Alright my guy, 

On 5/25/2020 at 3:03 PM, guest1149052 said:

I thought I would share with you my experiences as a straight, white, non-political, low 30's - male in nursing. To avoid doxxing myself, I'll just say that I'm in a top 10 student getting my NP. I want to be very clear, I'm not saying men shouldn't go into nursing, I am saying you should understand what you're getting yourself into. Also, these are just my experiences and you could have a totally different experience.

I have an undergraduate in computer science and completed an ABSN program because I thought I'd like to work with people. The actual nursing portion of my program was great; fundamentals, pharmacology, and pathophysiology are all important classes to master. Unfortunately these courses represented a minority of the coursework. The majority of the coursework was spent essentially preaching socialism to us under the veneer of "community health" and "ethics". Now I get it, I was a little order when I went into nursing and I have a different perspective. But every single community health or ethics class was about how evil capitalism is and how there should be a government program for everything. Full disclaimer, I voted for Hilary Clinton twice and politics isn't my thing. The bias was so overwhelming and they didn't even try to hide it. I realize that socialism / communism is fashionable with the younger crowd, but I wish I would have learned about actual community health or ethical issues in nursing.

Race Issues. Yet another disclaimer, race couldn't mean less to me. We had several lectures and guest seminars from prominent people in campus leadership tell us that it wasn't possible to racist against white people because white people have all the power. It was just ironic because that statement came from a dean at an IVY league school that is a person of color. We had a few students that were obsessed with race. We would be learning about cardiac issues and the medications that you use to treat the conditions. For those that don't know, African Americans typically don't respond well to Angiotensin Receptor Blockers (ARBs) and are typically placed on calcium channel blockers. This one girl in class went on about how it was systemic racism and prior experiences being a slave that causes African Americans to have poor cardiac health. The professor went along with it.

To summarize my ABSN experience, I learned that it was never the patients fault for their own poor outcome. The poor outcome was entirely due to being oppressed because of their race or sex; or there isn't a government program available for them to utilize. The lack of a government program to help afford a generic medication that costs less than $5/90 day supply is probably due to racism.

I'll post about my experience in NP school later, but as a male I'd be aware of the following before I signed up for nursing school.

  • If I could describe nursing school in one word it would be gynocentric; if you gave me two words, I'd say extreme SJWs.
  • If you are science minded, put in the extra work and go to medical school. Trust me, I have friends that did this and the majority of your time is spent learning actual medicine. I had a semester long "evidence based practice" class where we learned that grounding yourself can improve your mental health. Grounding, as in grounding yourself to an electrical outlet or going barefoot in the grass. I've taken several classes on electricity and magnetism in my undergrad. "Grounding" yourself will do absolutely nothing but we learned pseudo-science instead of medicine.
  • If you are a-political or heaven forbid lean conservative; learn to keep your ideas to yourself. I got much better grades on assignments when I learned how to write like the reincarnation of Karl Marx.
  • Group work can be a very social thing. Group work in computer science focused on results and objective goals, does your code compile? Did your robot fall over and die? Nursing group work is about how people feel about the work. It's less objective and more subjective.
  • Your program will be mostly run by women and very effeminate men. My program has a prom every year. In all fairness, my computer science department would order bunch of kegs once a month for the students.

I'm not saying don't go into nursing. Nursing is a great profession and it's very rewarding. If I had to do it over again, I would have taken the additional year and applied to medical school.

I'll share more about my experience in NP school so far at another time.

Its clear to me from this post that:

- My guy, you are most definitely political (which is fine, I am too).

- You've never read Marx.

- You don't know what socialism or communism is based on how flippantly you wave the terms around, and how much credit you give "capitalism", when you really just mean, markets. 

- You don't like critical theory as it has been applied to the medical field. 

- You are salty that you had some *** classes in nursing school, which I get but at the same time, it was a bachelors degree, not a graduate degree. I will look out for your next salty post about NP school tho, LOL. 

- And finally, this post makes you sound like the white moderate MLK Jr. warned us about in his letter from Birmingham jail from '63. Mix in a water and dilute some of the salt in them veins, brother. 

 

 

I agree 100%. It wasn't so political 20 years ago (here in Australia, at least)

One thing though, "Grounding" yourself will do absolutely nothing but we learned pseudo-science instead of medicine. 

It actually does work. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25848315/ , but yeah, lack of science to the detriment of patient health. Nursing keeps toppling itself back down the ladder of professionalism engaging in subacademic socially biased agendas, and we wonder why medical is far more respected.

Specializes in Family Practice and Primary Care.
Luke79AU said:

I agree 100%. It wasn't so political 20 years ago (here in Australia, at least)

One thing though, "Grounding" yourself will do absolutely nothing but we learned pseudo-science instead of medicine. 

It actually does work. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25848315/ , but yeah, lack of science to the detriment of patient health. Nursing keeps toppling itself back down the ladder of professionalism engaging in subacademic socially biased agendas, and we wonder why medical is far more respected.

Its dragging us off topic, but that article is very subjective, far from proof of grounding being effective. It was at least generally well written, though if you didn't read it closely you missed that they interchangeably use grounding with their theory of free electrons can have antioxidant effects (see the first paragraph after Figure 3 where they explain their main hypothesis). 

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