I thought I would share with you my experiences as a straight, white, non-political, low 30's - male in nursing. To avoid doxxing myself, I'll just say that I'm in a top 10 student getting my NP. I want to be very clear, I'm not saying men shouldn't go into nursing, I am saying you should understand what you're getting yourself into. Also, these are just my experiences and you could have a totally different experience.
I have an undergraduate in computer science and completed an ABSN program because I thought I'd like to work with people. The actual nursing portion of my program was great; fundamentals, pharmacology, and pathophysiology are all important classes to master. Unfortunately these courses represented a minority of the coursework. The majority of the coursework was spent essentially preaching socialism to us under the veneer of "community health" and "ethics". Now I get it, I was a little order when I went into nursing and I have a different perspective. But every single community health or ethics class was about how evil capitalism is and how there should be a government program for everything. Full disclaimer, I voted for Hilary Clinton twice and politics isn't my thing. The bias was so overwhelming and they didn't even try to hide it. I realize that socialism / communism is fashionable with the younger crowd, but I wish I would have learned about actual community health or ethical issues in nursing.
Race Issues. Yet another disclaimer, race couldn't mean less to me. We had several lectures and guest seminars from prominent people in campus leadership tell us that it wasn't possible to racist against white people because white people have all the power. It was just ironic because that statement came from a dean at an IVY league school that is a person of color. We had a few students that were obsessed with race. We would be learning about cardiac issues and the medications that you use to treat the conditions. For those that don't know, African Americans typically don't respond well to Angiotensin Receptor Blockers (ARBs) and are typically placed on calcium channel blockers. This one girl in class went on about how it was systemic racism and prior experiences being a slave that causes African Americans to have poor cardiac health. The professor went along with it.
To summarize my ABSN experience, I learned that it was never the patients fault for their own poor outcome. The poor outcome was entirely due to being oppressed because of their race or sex; or there isn't a government program available for them to utilize. The lack of a government program to help afford a generic medication that costs less than $5/90 day supply is probably due to racism.
I'll post about my experience in NP school later, but as a male I'd be aware of the following before I signed up for nursing school.
If I could describe nursing school in one word it would be gynocentric; if you gave me two words, I'd say extreme SJWs.
If you are science minded, put in the extra work and go to medical school. Trust me, I have friends that did this and the majority of your time is spent learning actual medicine. I had a semester long "evidence based practice" class where we learned that grounding yourself can improve your mental health. Grounding, as in grounding yourself to an electrical outlet or going barefoot in the grass. I've taken several classes on electricity and magnetism in my undergrad. "Grounding" yourself will do absolutely nothing but we learned pseudo-science instead of medicine.
If you are a-political or heaven forbid lean conservative; learn to keep your ideas to yourself. I got much better grades on assignments when I learned how to write like the reincarnation of Karl Marx.
Group work can be a very social thing. Group work in computer science focused on results and objective goals, does your code compile? Did your robot fall over and die? Nursing group work is about how people feel about the work. It's less objective and more subjective.
Your program will be mostly run by women and very effeminate men. My program has a prom every year. In all fairness, my computer science department would order bunch of kegs once a month for the students.
I'm not saying don't go into nursing. Nursing is a great profession and it's very rewarding. If I had to do it over again, I would have taken the additional year and applied to medical school.
I'll share more about my experience in NP school so far at another time.
Hey guys just came across this interesting testimony to congress on ideological discrimination on US college campuses. I think the followers of this forum would find it interesting as well.
His entire argument was dead within the first 30 seconds. No citizen is required to acknowledge the first amendment. The constitution is to regulate the government, not the people. So when a group of students or teachers, or administrators, or literally anyone, does something to cause an opinion they don't agree with from being presented, that's just freedom working as intended. But what do all of us college graduates know, we're all Marxists, every singe one of us, right?
Well the supreme court has decided otherwise. Students do not shed their freedom of speech once in a public educational institution since they are seen as an extension of government. That same protection is not extended to private universities. Students have freedom of speech so long as it is not lewd, infringes the rights of others, or substantially disrupts the educational environment. So public state funded universities can not allow activities that aim to silence or restrict the conservative voices of their student body.
I'm seriously wondering how many people here are really nurses. People are so disconnected from what actually goes on at colleges, that I'm convinced they never actually went to college.
I'm seriously wondering how many people here are really nurses. People are so disconnected from what actually goes on at colleges, that I'm convinced they never actually went to college.
You're making the presupposition that all that attend an undergrad (or associate) will dive into it head first, and will actually understand what goes on behind the scenes. Many, many, of those in my cohort were lazier than shaggy eating a ham sandwich - they just wanted to pass and graduate. And this is a highly regarded school. People don't care about anything. They just want to live happy lives, regardless of the lies they tell themselves.
You're making the presupposition that all that attend an undergrad (or associate) will dive into it head first, and will actually understand what goes on behind the scenes. Many, many, of those in my cohort were lazier than shaggy eating a ham sandwich - they just wanted to pass and graduate. And this is a highly regarded school. People don't care about anything. They just want to live happy lives, regardless of the lies they tell themselves.
You have to remember, a college degree has always been intended to be a marketing point. Your degree shows your expertise in a specific subject. That's why there's no such thing as a useless degree. Even gender studies, that is PRICELESS knowledge for targeted advertising and marketing. It was never intended to be the gatekeeper to being allowed to apply for jobs that HR departments have turned it into. So most college students, that degree isn't showing an area of expertise, it's a requirement to get licensed by knowing information that ANY hospital or nursing home can teach their CNAs through apprenticeships. So don't expect them to be interested unless the class is a subject that fits their goal.
What you have to understand about the younger people in my generation, going into the millennials, and the generation after them, they're smart. They're questioning the point of working to make somebody else rich while they can't even afford an apartment. They're questioning why a college education is needed for tons of jobs that you only learn through experience. I don't think they're lazy, I think they realize that education and their job, no matter how many promotions they get, even up to being a CEO, are all just to make someone else money. And the realization that starting a business isn't as simple as just starting a business anymore, there's certain opportunities that absolutely have to come up while you're actually capable of taking them. I don't know about you, but I work because I want ME to make money. And I'm not dumb either, I see hospitals around here paying their staff doctors and surgeons $150-200k, while my RN pay barely covers a RESPECTABLE apartment in the local area. Which is why I'm another nurse with plans to get away from the bedside. If I have to work to make everyone else rich while all I have to show for it is an apartment that doesn't leave me enough money to even think about saving towards buying a house, then there is no way that I'm staying in an environment where I'm going to break my body down and be in pain every night.
These kids aren't lazy, they're just not blindly obedient sources of somebody else's paycheck.
I thought I would share with you my experiences as a straight, white, non-political, low 30's - male in nursing. To avoid doxxing myself, I'll just say that I'm in a top 10 student getting my NP. I want to be very clear, I'm not saying men shouldn't go into nursing, I am saying you should understand what you're getting yourself into. Also, these are just my experiences and you could have a totally different experience.
I have an undergraduate in computer science and completed an ABSN program because I thought I'd like to work with people. The actual nursing portion of my program was great; fundamentals, pharmacology, and pathophysiology are all important classes to master. Unfortunately these courses represented a minority of the coursework. The majority of the coursework was spent essentially preaching socialism to us under the veneer of "community health" and "ethics". Now I get it, I was a little order when I went into nursing and I have a different perspective. But every single community health or ethics class was about how evil capitalism is and how there should be a government program for everything. Full disclaimer, I voted for Hilary Clinton twice and politics isn't my thing. The bias was so overwhelming and they didn't even try to hide it. I realize that socialism / communism is fashionable with the younger crowd, but I wish I would have learned about actual community health or ethical issues in nursing.
Race Issues. Yet another disclaimer, race couldn't mean less to me. We had several lectures and guest seminars from prominent people in campus leadership tell us that it wasn't possible to racist against white people because white people have all the power. It was just ironic because that statement came from a dean at an IVY league school that is a person of color. We had a few students that were obsessed with race. We would be learning about cardiac issues and the medications that you use to treat the conditions. For those that don't know, African Americans typically don't respond well to Angiotensin Receptor Blockers (ARBs) and are typically placed on calcium channel blockers. This one girl in class went on about how it was systemic racism and prior experiences being a slave that causes African Americans to have poor cardiac health. The professor went along with it.
To summarize my ABSN experience, I learned that it was never the patients fault for their own poor outcome. The poor outcome was entirely due to being oppressed because of their race or sex; or there isn't a government program available for them to utilize. The lack of a government program to help afford a generic medication that costs less than $5/90 day supply is probably due to racism.
I'll post about my experience in NP school later, but as a male I'd be aware of the following before I signed up for nursing school.
If I could describe nursing school in one word it would be gynocentric; if you gave me two words, I'd say extreme SJWs.
If you are science minded, put in the extra work and go to medical school. Trust me, I have friends that did this and the majority of your time is spent learning actual medicine. I had a semester long "evidence based practice" class where we learned that grounding yourself can improve your mental health. Grounding, as in grounding yourself to an electrical outlet or going barefoot in the grass. I've taken several classes on electricity and magnetism in my undergrad. "Grounding" yourself will do absolutely nothing but we learned pseudo-science instead of medicine.
If you are a-political or heaven forbid lean conservative; learn to keep your ideas to yourself. I got much better grades on assignments when I learned how to write like the reincarnation of Karl Marx.
Group work can be a very social thing. Group work in computer science focused on results and objective goals, does your code compile? Did your robot fall over and die? Nursing group work is about how people feel about the work. It's less objective and more subjective.
Your program will be mostly run by women and very effeminate men. My program has a prom every year. In all fairness, my computer science department would order bunch of kegs once a month for the students.
I'm not saying don't go into nursing. Nursing is a great profession and it's very rewarding. If I had to do it over again, I would have taken the additional year and applied to medical school.
I'll share more about my experience in NP school so far at another time.
If your school is "top 10" as you claim, you should ask for a refund. Either the ineptitude of the institution is quite profound or the intention of your focus was based on your own biases. I suspect the latter. Is it Trump university? Perhaps your ilk would benefit from that information.
On 7/24/2020 at 7:28 PM, TheDudeWithTheBigDog said:
Does it still do what we created it to do? If my business became government owned, but I still ran it and I still did my job with it, that's a win, because now we have the resources to grow.
The US borrows from socialist and communist views for our economy. The internet you're reading this on was created completely thanks to communist prinicples, that you're able to use because of socialist principles.
The first point is truly delusional. How is it beneficial to you if the government takes over your business? The profits you make are no longer yours, you become another wage employee who gets increases at the whim of the government and what they decide is good enough for you. There is also no guarantee that there will be resources allotted to your business to grow. That will be decided by someone else who tells you what to do. What incentive is there to work? To prosper? Absolutely NONE!
The second paragraph is just flat out wrong information. The Internet was developed jointly by DARPA and Universities. It was developed as a secure way for Governmental and MILITARY secure communications, The developers, once they saw how lucrative it could be to offer their product to consumers with the rise in personal computers, cashed in on it. That is pure Capitalism. It was developed to FIGHT Communism.
Does it still do what we created it to do? If my business became government owned, but I still ran it and I still did my job with it, that's a win, because now we have the resources to grow.
The US borrows from socialist and communist views for our economy. The internet you're reading this on was created completely thanks to communist prinicples, that you're able to use because of socialist principles.
The Eastern block is laughing their heads off,they hate the USA,love the dollar,beg you to illegally exchange dollars for their worthless currency,where and engineer makes more as a dresscutter than his/her profession,where the under the table bribe gets you the better dentist,where the nurse works for tips,...do some living in those places ,then maybe your eyes will be opened.
The Eastern block is laughing their heads off,they hate the USA,love the dollar,beg you to illegally exchange dollars for their worthless currency,where and engineer makes more as a dresscutter than his/her profession,where the under the table bribe gets you the better dentist,where the nurse works for tips,...do some living in those places ,then maybe your eyes will be opened.
Yes this division and polarity was well planned out. By the looks of it the subversion tactics have had some degree of success in our country. For those of you wanting Communism/Socialism in our country be careful what you wish for because you might just get it.
People who actually have lived under a Communist dictatorship actually understand what it means and vote to preserve our capitalist republic. It was no coincidence that Cubans voted for republicans during this election cycle. They get it.
TheDudeWithTheBigDog, ADN, RN
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His entire argument was dead within the first 30 seconds. No citizen is required to acknowledge the first amendment. The constitution is to regulate the government, not the people. So when a group of students or teachers, or administrators, or literally anyone, does something to cause an opinion they don't agree with from being presented, that's just freedom working as intended. But what do all of us college graduates know, we're all Marxists, every singe one of us, right?