how much hire level math is required for nursing?

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by AspiringRN27 AspiringRN27 (Member)

Um..loriangel...it's spelled 'improve' not 'imporove'

Isn't Loriangel, a proper noun? Should it not be subject to the rules of capitalization?

My username is lowercase to promote a more cordial atmosphere here, but if someone were to correct my grammar;pretty easy; I would expect them to adhere to the full rules of grammar.:)

NurseGirl525, ASN, RN

Specializes in ICU.

I had a choice, either college algebra or stats. I decided to go with algebra. It's pretty much just remembering formulas and how to plug in the numbers.

I had to take Fundamentals of Algebra and then Statistics.

Keep in mind often the distribution of credits for those seeking a four year college/university degree is mandated by the state, not particular institution. Thus anyone undertaking a BofS in NYS may find themselves taking a certain amount of college level math and or science credits regardless of their major.

Liberal Arts and Sciences Content for NY Degrees

Bachelor of Science degrees are not meant to be job training programs, but to provide a well rounded college education drawing from various areas. Just how much "higher" math along with chemistry (including organic) nurses need to know has been a matter of debate for some time. However what those obtaining a BofS degree in general must know is decided often again at state level.

Medical dosage calculations may or may not meet a state's requirement for college level math credits in whole or part. Thus you're going to probably see Statistics and or even finite math. Chemistry often has some leeway in that depending upon a college's finances and other things they can craft various *fundamentals* of general and or Organic chemistry (aka Chemistry for Weenies, *LOL*) just for nursing students. There are some who feel it is somewhat cruel (if that is the proper word) to force nursing students to take OC on say a pre-med level.

PulselessNine

Has 3 years experience.

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Much more important is my ability to use written and/or spoken language to clearly illistrate a point. Without that skill it would be difficult to command the respect I deserve from my employer or my patients.

That's re choir. Lol

I had to take college algebra and chemistry in 1987 for the ADN. I can't believe how many people think ADN programs don't require those. Some of the new nurses I work with today never had to take chemistry or algebra.

Cannot speak for everywhere but back in the 1980's do not think a single CUNY community associates program required full college chemistry or algebra as part of the program. Students had to pass an math and English placement exam and if one failed remedial courses were required before you could register for a "100" level course. Medical dosage calculations was usually a half semester course given on a pass or fail basis. The only an algebra requirement came into things is if one had failed the aforementioned math placement exam and therefore required remedial math as a prereq.

Now of course there were dozens of ADN and a few diploma programs still around back then so things may have varied. OTOH you cannot obtain a BofS in NYS without a certain number of college level math and science credits. The thought of having to take organic chemistry (and the prerequisite general) was more than enough to send persons one knew straight to associate degree schools.

Miss.LeoRN

Specializes in Cardiac Stepdown, PCU.

I was actually curious about this as well because our Nursing program doesn't require any math at all. Obviously we need to know basic algebra for the TEAS and what not but outside that we aren't required to have anything but highschool algebra level. We do have to take remedial classes if we are not at that level. Which tells me that outside some basic algebra I won't be USING algebra or higher level maths while in a nursing profession. I understand that a lot of programs require college algebra and that for a BSN I will have to take Stat's... but the program requiring it is different from you actually using it on the job.

@dt70....tell that to Loriangel who corrected the spelling of someone above, but proceeded to misspell a word herself.

Nobody should be correcting the spelling of others. It's rude. Unless you are that person's English teacher

That was the point I was going for.

@dt70....tell that to Loriangel who corrected the spelling of someone above, but proceeded to misspell a word herself.

Nobody should be correcting the spelling of others. It's rude. Unless you are that person's English teacher

That was the point I was going for.

Likewise. A serious thread ended up circling the drain, as it progressed to the point where you could no longer identify what the original topic was about.

LadyFree28, BSN, RN

Specializes in Pediatrics, Rehab, Trauma. Has 10 years experience.

The short answer: College Algebra and Statistics, though Chemistry, as another poster stated is helpful as well due to the use of Dimensional Analysis. :yes:

HouTx, BSN, MSN, EdD

Specializes in Critical Care, Education. Has 35 years experience.

Just wanted to chime in re: application of Statistics knowledge in the workplace.

Quality Improvement is not just a catchphrase any longer.... it is an essential requirement. In order to participate in this - even to understand the basics - we need to understand the basics of data analysis & how to interpret results. This is Statistics. We may not have to perform the calculations, but we certainly need to know how to spot a funky correlation being passed off as a causal factor.

This is just one of the reasons that educational requirements for clinicians are increasing.

icuRNmaggie, BSN, RN

Specializes in MICU, SICU, CICU. Has 24 years experience.

The very tiny amount that I can recall from the Statistics and Research classes has been useful when reading articles and Leapfrog results and the Press Whiney surveys.