Meeting AHPRA requirements as a International Trained Nurse from the Philippines

[Silverdragon102]

New thread discussing meeting APHRA requirements if trained in the Philippines.

Resources

Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency (AHPRA)

International registration / Nurses / Home - Nursing Council of New Zealand

Part 1 thread New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand

Part 2 thread New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand

I have started a thread in the Immigration for Immigration requirements for Australia/New Zealand

[jotdi]

Hi,

Does anyone here consider to apply for permanent residence in Australia? Is there another thread for the requirements and how you go through the process?

Thanks!

[Majai]

i sent my papers... my headnurse will never do such a thing... Policy is policy in the hospital where I came from... they won't help in anyways because they hate the idea that their nurses are leaving them to go to western countries

I just do hope and pray that things will change for the better... it's a tough life over here... and I just want to give my kids a better life.

[Majai]

so... i got a new email today... and it is to say that 90 days was not enough for the board to see my docs... so they said they are to give it until March 2015 and I should reply by October 22 if I agree with this extension...

[jotdi]

so... i got a new email today... and it is to say that 90 days was not enough for the board to see my docs... so they said they are to give it until March 2015 and I should reply by October 22 if I agree with this extension...

What if you don't agree? will they refund you of the assessment fee?

[Majai]

assessment is not refundable... I think it's the registration fee that is... (am i right? anyone?)

[warexx_17]

How come that nurses from the other side of the world have already have their decisions when in fact they only applied last January, February, March and April 2014 while some of us here are already waiting for a year or eleven months! This is just disappointing and humiliating. AHPRA and NMBA are not just as slow as snail but also bunch of RACISTS. I can support my claims.

[ceridwyn]

You are treading on very shaky ground. For instance, I am not Filipino, I cannot become a nurse in the Phillipines, can I call your nursing board, racists?

Many American states have declared the Phillipines BSN is not sufficient to be an RN in their states, is this racist? Do nurses from your country call their nursing boards racists?

The Australian nursing degree is not recognised in the UK nor USA nor most other countries and I have never heard anyone calling the 'racist word' by Australian nurses. English is set at a certain standard is this also racist?

Every country can make any decision on who they may or may not let into their respective countries and they can also state who they let in in as nurses.

AHPRA and NMBA have been directed to start following the national law that was made when AHPRA was formed. They now must investigate every countries nursing system against the Australian system and agree or disagree whether or not it is substantial to Australian nursing education.

The United Kingsom nursing system was the first system to be investigated, as it is where most of the immigrant nurses come from, are you calling this racisism because they have not assessed the Phillipines nursing system first? Then the nurses from the United Kingdom could call the racist word.!!!!! I feel sorry f0r those from Bosnia months ago, Bosnia is not even on a list apparently to be assessed yet!! that must be a racist slur to those as well?

In my honest opinion, Australia has been too lax in many respects to english standards and education of some overseas nurses in the past and has registered anybody that could claim RN status in their own country, nevertheless they were unable to communicate, were terribly cultural insensitive to many of our older people and approached nursing in a totally different way than an Australian educated nurse and at times some have been found to be ineffective as a nurse.

The truth is Australia is not longer some desert that overseas people feel they have to come in to save and Australia will accept. They can know make decisions and be a bit more particular about Australian culture and the skills that will fit that culture.

sshesh ,every other country can make decisions about overseas nurses and it is excepted, Australia does something to enhance our culture and become a little protective of what we have here and they get called racists, happens all the time, I rest may case,

[warexx_17]

Did I tell you GUIDE ceridwyn that my rant was about an applicant's eligibility to be registered? No. It is about AHPRA and NMBA being SLOW as SNAIL and them prioritizing group of applicants while others are left hanging. Why can't you even face that as a fan of AHPRA? They have decided our fates early September yet will only decide tomorrow, Oct 17, 2014. Not even sure if how many applications will go on board tomorrow. And no, I am not comparing myself to pre-Feb ANMAC people. AHPRA said they prioritize applicant's by date order. How can you explain an applicant from March or April 2014 be first considered than October 2013? Or just like your AHPRA, you just decide as you go along? Now, explain GUIDE ceridwyn.

And thanks for your long post. I didn't read it whole, just the first 2 sentences. It will bore me.

[official02]

Winner!

AHPRA cannot explain their own claim that they assess per date complete application is received and their own statement that they assess by date order. Maybe CERIDWYN can explain that. Haha! So, ceridwyn, why not explain that in behalf of AHPRA?

AHPRA is making us believe this statement yet they are forgetting we are in the information age and you can join a Facebook group and learn from real accounts of real people with of course photos of their decisions from AHPRA.

Apparently, those people from the other side of the world loathes AHPRA. They now live in Australia but refused registration and need to go back to their country. How unfortunate?!

Truth really hurts.

[jmolina1985]

Easy now, we are not here to make enemies.

Taking an observer's point of view Ceridwyn is giving her opinion from her Australian point-of-view. We don't necessarily have to agree with it or like it. It was one of our members who used the R word indeed so pardon them but that really stings the ear of someone practicing tolerance on a daily basis. Trust me when I say that it would not be profitable for you to form such a conclusion when you are already working within their workforce, you would be quite unhappy. You will be surprised to find other foreigners who are less tolerant of 'Asians' just because of their fairer complexion, save your anger for them (pun).

Strategically for an organization, it would make a lot of sense to start assessing countries which are SIMILAR, UK happens to be crown of the commonwealth countries and indeed you will find Welsh, Brits, Irish, and Scots a lot in the nursing work force. Given their majority and similarity to the Austalian system and their ability to pressure AHPRA, it would make sense that they were assessed first.

Now, why would a Brit who applied in July 2014 get her registration first before a Filipino who's had their application handed in on 2013? Is it that AHPRA is being selective instead of being fair? I would LIKE to think not. But given that the UK nurses' framework had been established first, I'd assume that they have a well-rounded and experienced teams handling UK apps as opposed to the Philippines which have just been recently studied. Keep in mind that they have determined that UK as at par with their accreditation standards as opposed to the PH where additional steps to authenticate documents maybe necessary. Again, it would make sense in terms of productivity if AHPRA were to utilize teams in handling applications, staff who are dedicated in the PH would know how to deal with our documents which are very different in terms of presentation from that of the UK.

Now, with the English language requirement being lax in the past, it has nothing to do with the applicants now. The applicants here waiting are all deemed competent by examining bodies which are accredited by the Australian system. Furthermore, I acknowledge that the PH education system is not at par with majority of US states or in Australia. Of course! That's why there's the NCLEX and the IRON program is it not? Similarly nursing practice in these countries should never have been accepted in the PH system, it just happened that we are on the receiving end of foreign aide which is why their practice was allowed (or did it go through proper channels?).

Australia's strength doesn't lie in transparency, I say this in comparison to the US system when I registered there. But then again, I am looking at practicing in Aus so I must bear with the system. Just think, it least there's no metered stamp and no long queues inside a small building with poor ventilation for the registration process. Comparing it to the PH system, I really don't know, ours were pretty straight-forward although the queues were horrible!

For any other foreign nationals in this thread, understand that AHPRA's cost was a dear 1 1/2 month worth of hard work for a nurse that is excluding all the documentation costs associated with the application. All this waiting is not easy.

Now, let me just recall: at least we have a time frame now and we belong to the few countries which AHPRA had assessed. This is less than 10 countries in a total of 196 world wide. Doesn't that make us feel a bit special?

Cheers!

[nursecessary]

we all need to relax with the "R" word...nobody forced us to apply to australia. If it is indeed racist, which I hope isnt true, then we can look somewhere else for immigration. But if you really want to be part of its society (which I am truly hoping to be - surfing, laid back lifestyle, outdoors, kangaroos, greatwhites, koalas) then we all should stop with the name calling cause it certainly wont make the process any swifter. g'day mates!

[warexx_17]

Dropped the bomb as it should. It hurts 'coz its real.

I didn't generalize Australia. I said AHPRA and NMBA. So, don't put words in my mouth. Fine? Maybe try reading my post first.

Why would it pain you if not true? Onion skin?

My rant would never do any good for my application but it's my freedom to post here. But I stand by my previous post that AHPRA and NMBA are as slow as snail and bunch of selective, choosy, plays favoritism, and whatever names you don't want to see because it hurts you.