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Updated: Apr 25, 2020 Published Apr 24, 2020
ABC News
April 23, 2020
From Arizona to Virginia, health care workers tell protesters to "stay at home."
https://abcnews.go.com/US/disagree-medical-professionals-counter-coronavirus-lockdown-protesters/story?id=70293830&
Sentiment: No Economy is Worth More Than a LIFE!!
Denver protest:
Arizona protest:
Leedeedee
73 Posts
13 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:I see protesters waving flags and calling names and carrying weapons, protesting their individual freedom and I see counter protesters in scrubs quietly encouraging compliance with public health recommendations. One side is sometimes waving confederate or political flags, even, almost like they are intending to agitate onlookers in a political vein rather than related to the pandemic. Very much us v them mentality. Where is the similar behaviour from the other "side"?
I see protesters waving flags and calling names and carrying weapons, protesting their individual freedom and I see counter protesters in scrubs quietly encouraging compliance with public health recommendations. One side is sometimes waving confederate or political flags, even, almost like they are intending to agitate onlookers in a political vein rather than related to the pandemic. Very much us v them mentality. Where is the similar behaviour from the other "side"?
You're confusing the behaviour of the protestors with the point of the protest itself. It's extremely naive to think that economy and health aren't related. Who pays for healthcare if the economy is destroyed. As for protestors waving flags and calling names, do you not think just maybe they're upset because they can't pay their rent, they can't pay for food, they can't pay for gas,they can't provide the basics for their kids etc. A bit of empathy would be nice.
toomuchbaloney
12,889 Posts
7 hours ago, HeartlandRN said: don't know what they expect and I suspect it may vary some person to person. But overall I suspect it's attention and political power. The far right , not so much unlike the far left, thrives on "owning" the majority and shoving their demand list down your throat. So I'm not sure I want to give them any more attention than they're already getting. Again, there's plenty of jobs out there , risky jobs, but jobs. If you are HONESTLY (keyword) unconcerned about the virus as so much to be out demanding salons, gyms, barbers, tattoo parlors and restaraunts open, the what's the problem? Dilly on down to Walmart, Target, Meijer, HEB, Kroger, Publix, Lowes, HomeDepot, Instacart, etc etc and get one.
don't know what they expect and I suspect it may vary some person to person. But overall I suspect it's attention and political power. The far right , not so much unlike the far left, thrives on "owning" the majority and shoving their demand list down your throat. So I'm not sure I want to give them any more attention than they're already getting. Again, there's plenty of jobs out there , risky jobs, but jobs. If you are HONESTLY (keyword) unconcerned about the virus as so much to be out demanding salons, gyms, barbers, tattoo parlors and restaraunts open, the what's the problem? Dilly on down to Walmart, Target, Meijer, HEB, Kroger, Publix, Lowes, HomeDepot, Instacart, etc etc and get one.
What are the common denominators for the small but loud group of people protesting the CDC guidelines? What knit them together in this odd cause?
Freedom?
Just now, toomuchbaloney said:What are the common denominators for the small but loud group of people protesting the CDC guidelines? What knit them together in this odd cause?Freedom?
I guess empathy for those suffering is too much to expect then.
Just now, Leedeedee said:You're confusing the behaviour of the protestors with the point of the protest itself. It's extremely naive to think that economy and health aren't related. Who pays for healthcare if the economy is destroyed. As for protestors waving flags and calling names, do you not think just maybe they're upset because they can't pay their rent, they can't pay for food, they can't pay for gas,they can't provide the basics for their kids etc. A bit of empathy would be nice.
Did I say that the economy and health aren't related? In fact, no I did not.
Yes, it is very evident that the protesters are upset, everyone is affected, lots of people are hurting and upset...even health professionals. Saying you want a haircut is not the same as protesting because of hunger.
A bit of empathy for protesters? You mean like people protesting against police brutality?
3 minutes ago, Leedeedee said:I guess empathy for those suffering is too much to expect then.
Is it?
allnurses Admin Team
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How does the nation deal with a small group of people who would jeopardize the health of many while stating such silly concerns? What motivates them to disobey the CDC guidelines when the vast majority understand the need to shelter in?
Is there any commonality in the leadership of the states being protested? When the president tweeted his support did that make the protests more or less political? How did that support affect the protests? It seemed to me that after the "liberate" tweets there was more campaign related signage and clothing present.
Guest219794
2,453 Posts
40 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:Is there any commonality in the leadership of the states being protested? When the president tweeted his support did that make the protests more or less political? How did that support affect the protests? It seemed to me that after the "liberate" tweets there was more campaign related signage and clothing present.
Not sure I understand the question.
While the debate may be political, those are facts. Facts are apolitical.
HandsOffMySteth
471 Posts
I encourage readers to look at the actual pictures of the protest and make their own conclusions as to why the protesters are angry. There have been several doctors who have said lately we should reopen parts of the country because this virus is no more deadly than the flu. Some of the governors have arrested individuals for being outside and isolated. That extreme and unreasonable response will make people angry. People are getting desperate and that is a problem.
https://bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/public-health-responds-to-claims-from-doctors-at-accelerated-urgent-care
These two entrepreneurial physicians are asking to open ...
There was a least one young mother arrested for arranging a play date at a closed park and then refusing to leave during this pandemic, in Utah, I think. Isn't that civil disobedience?
Jail may be better than being cooped up with children in your home...perhaps she was that desperate.
Ammon Bundy has made the lockdowns part of his cause now too.