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Medical professionals counter coronavirus lockdown protesters

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Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion. Has 44 years experience.

allnurses Admin Team

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Let's keep politics out of this discussion.

Thank you.

Daisy4RN

Specializes in Travel, Home Health, Med-Surg. Has 20 years experience.

I get where both sides are coming from. The HCP see and know what the virus can do. The ones (HCP) protesting look like they still have jobs/paychecks. Many people who are protesting are doing so bc they see dire straits ahead for them if not already bc they have lost their income etc. This is a tough situation and when people start feeling the pinch it becomes us vs them (on both sides).

toomuchbaloney

Has 43 years experience.

1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:

I get where both sides are coming from. The HCP see and know what the virus can do. The ones (HCP) protesting look like they still have jobs/paychecks. Many people who are protesting are doing so bc they see dire straits ahead for them if not already bc they have lost their income etc. This is a tough situation and when people start feeling the pinch it becomes us vs them (on both sides).

I'm not seeing the "on both sides" thing. Can you give an example of us v them from both sides? I see protesters waving flags and calling names and carrying weapons, protesting their individual freedom and I see counter protesters in scrubs quietly encouraging compliance with public health recommendations. One side is sometimes waving confederate or political flags, even, almost like they are intending to agitate onlookers in a political vein rather than related to the pandemic. Very much us v them mentality. Where is the similar behaviour from the other "side"?

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17 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I'm not seeing the "on both sides" thing. Can you give an example of us v them from both sides? I see protesters waving flags and calling names and carrying weapons, protesting their individual freedom and I see counter protesters in scrubs quietly encouraging compliance with public health recommendations. One side is sometimes waving confederate or political flags, even, almost like they are intending to agitate onlookers in a political vein rather than related to the pandemic. Very much us v them mentality. Where is the similar behaviour from the other "side"?

Well said. Pretty sad when even our own peers are so polarized they're going to stand with mangey protestors over best practice and their own peers. As for the protestors, yes, it's political and it is being organized by far right groups . that's been established. And as usual, the plebians have yet to notice those pushing their outrage buttons are staying home in their gated vacation homes rather than joining them. As they say, can't fix stupid.

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41 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The protesters are an angry and irrational minority. Most Americans across the political spectrum don't agree with them.

Turning this into a rant about your feelings and discomfort with the nature or frequency of my comments is not OK, juniper222. It's really not OK for you then to accuse others of ranting. What, it's OK for you but not people you disagree with?

I agree with you. It has certainly been less than enjoyable to have to regularly dredge through messages chock full of personal attack/accusations/censorship demands each time someone has to read something that may possibly run counter to some strongly held political opinion, particularly when the person would appear to be haunting the board screening for it. All while regularly flagging the Moderators and demanding they censor it and/or starting food fights to get the thread locked.

Everybody needs to be an adult already. I thought there was an option to block/ignore members. For the love of God just USE it already if someone is all that upsetting to you and let the Moderators have a little peace and quiet.

10 hours ago, juniper222 said:

I watched the videos and I see people there from all ends of society. Some political, some not. This movement is not one of a political nature even though there may be elements within it that are. Most had signs that say nothing of politics.

While I don't agree with the protesters, I can understand their concern. I also believe that some governors are using poor judgment. Social distancing should be enforced but there are many incidents of people who were completely alone getting arrested because they were out of doors.

I am sure there are people there who are not organized and may genuinely agree with the protestors. Nonetheless, that plenty of it is in fact politically organized is easily verifiable if one cares to look.

3 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

These protests are an interesting phenomenon, IMV. I think they are symptomatic of the mixed and confused messaging about virus that the public received. 

Fair enough and I am happy to, and have been, open to the idea that there are some independent minded protestors participating It's also a mere Google away to find out the groups who are organizing them as well. I realize some of this was egged on with their president's LIBERATE tweets, but c'mon, the factual information has been available on the CDC, local news channels and websites, from the predominant local Hospital/provider networks in all of our areas, etc for anyone who wants to look (or perhaps even if they don't)

After all, this is your life here and your family. You have a moral obligation to be informed. As importantly it's also the REST of our lives and families and ourselves and peers who are swimming in corvid at their jobs all day/night.

toomuchbaloney

Has 43 years experience.

8 minutes ago, HeartlandRN said:

Fair enough and I am happy to, and have been, open to the idea that there are some independent minded protestors participating It's also a mere Google away to find out the groups who are organizing them as well. I realize some of this was egged on with their president's LIBERATE tweets, but c'mon, the factual information has been available on the CDC, local news channels and websites, from the predominant local Hospital/provider networks in all of our areas, etc for anyone who wants to look (or perhaps even if they don't)

After all, this is your life here and your family. You have a moral obligation to be informed. As importantly it's also the REST of our lives and families and ourselves and peers who are swimming in corvid at their jobs all day/night.

You are correct, and that's why the protesters and those who think like them actually only represent a relatively small percentage of the population, regardless of politics. That's why I think that if they actually could interview a significant portion of those people we could learn somethings that might be helpful if/when we need to execute a similar public health response.

What are we supposed to expect from state or federal leadership? What do the protesters expect?

Just now, toomuchbaloney said:

You are correct, and that's why the protesters and those who think like them actually only represent a relatively small percentage of the population, regardless of politics. That's why I think that if they actually could interview a significant portion of those people we could learn somethings that might be helpful if/when we need to execute a similar public health response.

What are we supposed to expect from state or federal leadership? What do the protesters expect? 

don't know what they expect and I suspect it may vary some person to person. But overall I suspect it's attention and political power. The far right , not so much unlike the far left, thrives on "owning" the majority and shoving their demand list down your throat. So I'm not sure I want to give them any more attention than they're already getting. Again, there's plenty of jobs out there , risky jobs, but jobs. If you are HONESTLY (keyword) unconcerned about the virus as so much to be out demanding salons, gyms, barbers, tattoo parlors and restaraunts open, the what's the problem? Dilly on down to Walmart, Target, Meijer, HEB, Kroger, Publix, Lowes, HomeDepot, Instacart, etc etc and get one.

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