Maybe it is about taking away guns

toomuchbaloney · Dec 17, 2020

2 hours ago, Beerman said:

Democrats showing their true colors. This incoming congresswoman has obtained a DC concealed carry permit and permission from the Capital Police to carry her firearm. Now all of a sudden they want to change a rule that has been in place since the 60's.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-elect-lauren-boebert-ban-concealed-carry-us-capitol

Are there security and guards in the capital buildings? Is there a clear reason that someone should carry a weapon casually onto that property or is this simply a situation of someone believing that their privilege is a right, again. Where does it say in the constitution that people can carry weapons anywhere they prefer at any time? Can you think of any other places where people are not allowed to enter while armed?

Gosh it sure looks like some gun owners are looking for argument.

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Dec 17, 2020

Newly elected Rep Lauren Boebert owns Shooters Grill in Rifle, CO, open carries with a Glock on her hip at work in this rural community. Legislators currently allowed to carry in their office but not on the House of Representatives floor. Why does she need a gun at work, is it that dangerous there? Capital Police use metal detector screening of staff and visitors How much of this is publicity???

NBC News 11/24/20

Newly elected Rep. Boebert asks about carrying a gun on Capitol grounds

toomuchbaloney · Dec 17, 2020

16 minutes ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Newly elected Rep Lauren Boebert owns Shooters Grill in Rifle, CO, open carries with a Glock on her hip at work in this rural community. Legislator currently allowed to carry in their office but not on the House of Representatives floor. Why does she need a gun there====How much of this is publicity???

NBC News 11/24/20

Newly elected Rep. Boebert asks about carrying a gun on Capitol grounds

It's political theater. She's titillating her voting base with emotion.

allnurses Guide · Dec 18, 2020

5 hours ago, Beerman said:

Democrats showing their true colors. This incoming congresswoman has obtained a DC concealed carry permit and permission from the Capital Police to carry her firearm. Now all of a sudden they want to change a rule that has been in place since the 60's.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-elect-lauren-boebert-ban-concealed-carry-us-capitol

If this was anything other than a new member publicity stunt plus audition to be the next Dana Loesch she wouldn't need to obfuscate the issue with her red herring about Washington DC being a dangerous city.

She didn't need permission to carry a concealed weapon on Capitol grounds.

The letter doesn't mention her personally, but that didn't stop her from pretending they did.

Democrats actually expressed the same concerns about the 1967 regulation in 2018.

Just as an aside, I read that she defied guidelines on Thanksgiving indoor gatherings by declaring she invited 30 people to her house for a funeral for a dead turkey.

I have major doubts the people of her Colorado district will be well-served.

Beerman, BSN · Dec 18, 2020

12 hours ago, nursel56 said:

If this was anything other than a new member publicity stunt plus audition to be the next Dana Loesch she wouldn't need to obfuscate the issue with her red herring about Washington DC being a dangerous city.

She didn't need permission to carry a concealed weapon on Capitol grounds.

The letter doesn't mention her personally, but that didn't stop her from pretending they did.

Democrats actually expressed the same concerns about the 1967 regulation in 2018.

Just as an aside, I read that she defied guidelines on Thanksgiving indoor gatherings by declaring she invited 30 people to her house for a funeral for a dead turkey.

I have major doubts the people of her Colorado district will be well-served.

What exactly are the concerns from the Democrats that anyone here finds that are legitimate? She is a law abiding citizen who legally owns and carries her firearm. A non-"assault type" weapon, btw.

Publicity stunt? LOL....maybe,by the Democrats who are the ones making an issue out of it.

Having been seversl times to both the town where she is from and DC, its reasonable she may fear for her safety in DC.

Not a gun owner myself, btw. Other then a .22 rifle at boy scout camp several decades ago, I don't recall that I've even touched a gun.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Dec 18, 2020

4 hours ago, Beerman said:

What exactly are the concerns from the Democrats that anyone here finds that are legitimate? She is a law abiding citizen who legally owns and carries her firearm. A non-"assault type" weapon, btw

Guns are banned in the Capital for the general public. What about other law abiding citizens in one of the most dangerous cities. When they visit the Capital on business or for tours should they be allowed to open carry since it's so dangerous there. Don't they have the right to defend themselves the same as her? I would think the more people with guns the safer it would be.

elkpark · Dec 18, 2020

5 hours ago, Beerman said:

What exactly are the concerns from the Democrats that anyone here finds that are legitimate? She is a law abiding citizen who legally owns and carries her firearm. A non-"assault type" weapon, btw.

Publicity stunt? LOL....maybe,by the Democrats who are the ones making an issue out of it.

Having been seversl times to both the town where she is from and DC, its reasonable she may fear for her safety in DC.

Not a gun owner myself, btw. Other then a .22 rifle at boy scout camp several decades ago, I don't recall that I've even touched a gun.

If she's that worried about her safety in DC, maybe she shouldn't have gone to all that trouble to get a job there ...

allnurses Guide · Dec 18, 2020

6 hours ago, Beerman said:

What exactly are the concerns from the Democrats that anyone here finds that are legitimate? She is a law abiding citizen who legally owns and carries her firearm. A non-"assault type" weapon, btw.

Publicity stunt? LOL....maybe,by the Democrats who are the ones making an issue out of it.

Having been seversl times to both the town where she is from and DC, its reasonable she may fear for her safety in DC.

Not a gun owner myself, btw. Other then a .22 rifle at boy scout camp several decades ago, I don't recall that I've even touched a gun.

Letter to members of Congress: https://huffman.house.gov/imo/media/doc/12.15.20 Firearms on Capitol Grounds letter.pdf

An article: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/530418-democrats-press-to-bar-lawmakers-from-carrying-guns-in-the-capitol

allnurses Guide · Dec 19, 2020

14 hours ago, Beerman said:

What exactly are the concerns from the Democrats that anyone here finds that are legitimate? She is a law abiding citizen who legally owns and carries her firearm. A non-"assault type" weapon, btw.

Publicity stunt? LOL....maybe,by the Democrats who are the ones making an issue out of it.

Having been seversl times to both the town where she is from and DC, its reasonable she may fear for her safety in DC.

Not a gun owner myself, btw. Other then a .22 rifle at boy scout camp several decades ago, I don't recall that I've even touched a gun.

Well, you did use a pretty provocative thread title to describe that letter, which looks to have been for internal consumption (one group of congresspeople to another group of congresspeople) rather than destined for Fox News fame.

"They're trying to take our guns away" is an argument I never found plausible, and I do try to see issues from the opposite point of view, even if I disagree with it.

My objection to her mention of crime in dangerous DC was that it isn't relevant to what her specific complaint was about.

I have relatives in Colorado and spent much time there as well as visited Washington DC as a tourist. Rifle a small mountain town seems safe. I've never been a witness to or a victim of a crime in either place.

Beerman, BSN · Dec 20, 2020

On 12/18/2020 at 11:27 AM, Tweety said:

Guns are banned in the Capital for the general public. What about other law abiding citizens in one of the most dangerous cities. When they visit the Capital on business or for tours should they be allowed to open carry since it's so dangerous there. Don't they have the right to defend themselves the same as her? I would think the more people with guns the safer it would be.

She has the privilege under a 50+ year old regulation to carry a gun in the Capitol. Why now, are the Democrats trying to get the rule changed?

Tweety, BSN, RN · Dec 20, 2020

11 hours ago, Beerman said:

She has the privilege under a 50+ year old regulation to carry a gun in the Capitol. Why now, are the Democrats trying to get the rule changed?

They tried in 2018, so it's not like they are suddenly taking a new position to go after your guns.

If you want to know why now again, they presented a letter to Pelosi that I'm sure you can find online that presents their case. The timing is now because the congresswoman made public that she would be carrying a gun. If she had privilege for the last 50 years, and it's concealed, why would she choose now to brag about it? Clearly she as much of an agenda as the Democrats do. It's working, people are getting riled up about it.