If I knew nursing was so vindictive, horrible, and crazy like this I would have NEVER entered the nursing program in my school to become an RN.
I am a soon to be finished first year student in an ADN program so I do have SOME clinical experience and know a little bit about real world nursing.
I always thought it would be a decent and respectable career with flexible hours and the chance to actually make a difference. All I see on here is how easy it to lose your job and your license, how burnt out nurses become after the FIRST year and how there's NO camaraderie between nurses.
Makes me want to just get my RN and jump ship and become a CRNA or NP... sheesh!
When did this generation get so d@mn whiney@ssed? I'm sick to tears of all the complaining. Don't like it, change your major. Save all of us the grief.
Guess what my friend, I have a degree in Management concentration HRM. Guess what one of my jobs has been, technical recruiter. Guess where this "whinny whippersnapper" generation will be in a few years? Sitting across from YOU at an interview deciding whether or not to hire "Old Hags". And you had better hope that my generation is not as DISCRIMINATORY about age as yours..... because as educated HR professionals (and the baby boomer generations) know, Age discrimination is a HUGE problem for our country and it is expected to grow.
I've got a lot of respect for vets. Many of my family members are also currently serving or past vets, and that is by far not an easy job. I think military and police share a close bond with nurses. Thank you for your service, TheCareerStudent.
Thank you Avyah to you for the comment and your family for their service!
OP- I see what you are saying. The one thing I find interesting about the replies to you is that nurses keep saying they "come on here to vent" because people on here are "understanding". Yet when someone comes on here to vent the "understanding" people rip them apart for venting. There is little understanding on this website. I agree with you OP!
I've been a nurse for about 17 months... 12 months on M/S floor and 5 months in the ER.
A new nurse though I may be, I have about 30 years of professional and nonprofessional work experience including serving refreshments to America's elite, picking up corpses, pumping gas, skilled shop work, secretarial work, military, and various roles in high-tech companies, large and small, including Fortune 50 companies as well as some sole proprietorships. Bottom line: I've worked with and worked for a ton of different people doing a ton of different things. I've received several awards, one patent, financial awards for suggestions, promotions, and big raises. I've also been laid off several times and even fired once back in college.
What I'm saying is, I have perspective.
Every day that I come to work I tell myself - and often those around me - that I am truly grateful to have my job. There are parts of it that I don't like and certainly some people that I'd prefer to never see again... but that's nothing new for me. On the other hand, though, I have received some of the most sincere expressions of gratitude in my short nursing career as I ever have in my life. I have done some pretty cool things and seen some pretty amazing things.
And, I have a job.
And, in a 30 mile radius around my house, there are people hiring nurses - even in this lousy economy.
I have a job, one that I don't love but one which I certainly don't hate - oh yeah, I've had one of those, too - and for that I am sincerely grateful.
As with most things in life, nursing is what you choose to make of it.
Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.
Nursing is very different than other careers. Really, you cannot compare them side to side. Not because one is more difficult or anything like that, but because it is different when you are responsible for peoples lives, are dealing with body fluids and life and death emotions, and then you add in family drama, short staffing, sometimes sucky schedules.
It ain't like working really hard to land the Johnson account. You just cannot compare to completely dissimiliar things.
You may find you love it or hate it, but until the reality and responsibility are yours you cannot effectively judge.
Wow. i have interacted with people like this, but it has not affected my personal goals or dreams in any way. Actually, it HAS affected them in that i resolve to always keep in forethought why i want to do this in the first place, and how i NEVER will end up. i did some research before getting into school, and the negativity i meet doesn't surprise me. i'm still the bright-eyed newbie that thinks the heart should be part of nursing. It sounds to me that your heart has already checked out, and this is not where you should be.
Well then suggest to the website to move his post to general student discussions and we can complain about you there. But I would be willing to bet my pay check that you would go there and complain about students complaining.
What you are missing is I have right to go on the student site because I HAVE been a student and I have personal experience about it. A student however does NOT have personal experience about being a nurse. You are smart enough to see the difference right? Also, it's not my "job" to suggest to staff where to move this post to.
You are pretty self righteous to think that you have the right to tell a student they have no right to complain. What you nurses fail to realize is that a lot of the students on this website are accomplished professionals in other fields.
I never and I repeat never said a student has no right to complain. I did however say a student has no right to complain about something they know nothing about and that is how a REAL nurse should be.
Some of you make it seem as though we could never understand stress. Well I can tell you as an OIF/OEF vet that your idea of your worst day of stress is my idea of a pretty damn good day of my deployments.
I also guarantee whatever your experience about your deployment there is someone on here that has had a worse deployment. Or if you have been deployed one time (I don't know how many times you were deployed but this is just an example) I bet someone on here has been deployed two times etc. Someone always has a worse story. But, if someone on here tells about stress in their life this isn't a pi$$*@! contest, what is stress to someone is real stress and just because you think yours is worse doesn't make it so. I bet your worst deployment is not as bad as the person that NEVER made it back from their deployment.
This website if for nurses as well as nursing students, if you don't want to see students complain stop eating your young. I don't "eat my young", I always help new nurses and students.
P.S. Did you ever think that maybe some of the students were sick of hearing you complain about us? Get over it!
Hmmmmm.....if you are sick of "hearing" it stop reading it....some things in life are so simple. JUST STOP READING IT.
Let me assure you that nursing is a great profession but it is also a calling. WE deal with many unpleasant things and most shifts you will walk away feeling exhausted, underappreciated and will question your decision. But there are those rare moments that you hear thank you from a very ill patient or the family of someone who has just passed away and those are the moments that will make you remember why you chose this profession or why it chose you.
I see alot of people that enter this profession for it's stability and "excellent" pay (not as great as they hope) and those are the ones that end up really hating thier job and having a hard time adjusting. Let me be one to tell you we are not paid near as much as we are worth and if compensation and the ability to find a job are your goal you will be miserable. It you are interested in nursing because you love people and want to come to the aid of those that need you then welcome.
And on one last note the reason you see so many negative posts, in my opinion, is because nurses are a special group of people and only other nurses can understand. Don't believe me just try to talk abount nursing with someone who thinks all we do is pass pills, wipe butts, and show up when a button is pushed!
OP- I see what you are saying. The one thing I find interesting about the replies to you is that nurses keep saying they "come on here to vent" because people on here are "understanding". Yet when someone comes on here to vent the "understanding" people rip them apart for venting. There is little understanding on this website. I agree with you OP!
As I see it, the issue being raised about the OP's post is that post vents about people venting.
I see from your profile that you have "lots of management experience". Good, then you should realize, as an experienced manager, that people under stress need a safe outlet to express themselves. Catharsis.
I find responses here are mostly understanding. And once again, one of the primary functions of this board is as a place for nurses to complain to those who have walked a mile in their shoes, other nurses.
I see from your profile that you have "lots of management experience". Good, then you should realize, as an experienced manager, that people under stress need a safe outlet to express themselves. Catharsis.
There is nothing safe about venting on this website. All you guys do is rip each others heads off. Probably because half of you have no control over your own lives and do not have the guts to stick up for yourselves in the real world. So you come on here and bully one another, that's cool and the reason why talking to half of you is like talking to a wall. If you all stood up for yourselves the way you do on here the profession would be different.
The one and only reason I am on here is to talk to fellow students and I am supporting the OP. If any of you do not like that or what I have to say I really could not care less about it
Makes me want to just get my RN and jump ship and become a CRNA or NP... sheesh!
Either that or they work Part time or PRN. Welcome to the reality of nursing.... They are good jobs out there with good managers, but there are not many...
The culture of nursing has to change and I am constantly being judged by my peers... Instead of being mentored by my more experienced peers.
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Nor the faint of heart!