Male Nurse Disgusted by Female Nurses

This male nurse is appalled at his female colleagues' behavior. Is he right? Nurses General Nursing Article

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Hi Beth:

I believe you submitted a recent article about Safe Patient/Nurse Ratios in this country. I have been a nurse for about one year and a half and I am appalled by what I have observed with the untenable and unsafe patient/nurse ratios healthcare employers are demanding nurses work with, BUT, I am even more FRUSTRATED and DISGUSTED with the TOTAL LACK OF UNITY among nurses when it comes to speaking in one voice to employers about this.

They would rather run to the bathroom and cry or ***** and moan in private never having the guts to unite and square off with the managements responsible for creating unsafe conditions for the sake of profit. I am a male nurse....you ladies always tout this spirit of "Teamwork" on the floors yet I have never in my life witnessed the amount of undermining and backstabbing that exists among nurses.

Before we can begin to force change on healthcare employers we have to take ownership of our failure to unite.Ladies. please stop all the petty politics among yourselves! Let's all come together as one body and push our legislators for change!! We are in the millions and we are in demand!! That is power!!

Dear Male Nurse Disgusted with Female Nurses,

The female experience is very different from the male experience, my friend. You are operating in the largely female world of nursing, and it probably feels very foreign to you. But as women, this is our world and we know it well.

You believe we are petty and fight among ourselves rather than uniting and speaking up to management. Uniting and speaking up to management as one is male behavior. Female behavior is more divisive and it has kept us down as a profession. You're right, the nursing profession is really not built on strength or unification.

But there's a reason for this behavior. As a male, you would not know this as a lived experience.

Female Conditioning

Females are conditioned to envy each other, not to trust each other, and to compete with each other. Females compare themselves to other females all their lives. Girls compare themselves to Barbie, to the pretty girls, to the girls boys like best, to the cheerleaders. To every other girl.

Women are taught to be helpless when they're not, act stupid when they're smart, not be hungry when they're starving, and to remain passive they're angry.

Females are called the "b" word for being assertive and considered to be more feminine when they are "sweet". It's a dichotomy of expectations.

The dichotomy is everywhere. Look at popular movies about mean girls.

Being direct and straightforward is not how women are brought up to communicate whatsoever. Saying what we need is less important than meeting other's needs.

Meanwhile, boys are taught to stick together, in the army, on the football team. You rarely hear doctors criticize other doctors. Even when a patient goes to see a doctor with a condition that was mishandled by another provider, the response is more along the lines of "Well, let's move forward from here".

By contrast, nurses are hard on each other. Nurses can be quick to blame other nurses. As females, we expect perfection from ourselves...and each other.

State boards of nursing, made up of nurses, are notoriously hard on nurses as compared to doctors' governing boards.

There's another reason for your observations about female behavior.

Men Rule

It's still largely a male-dominated world. Men have the power. Look at the recent "Time's Up" issue. Even in liberal Hollywood, men have the power. Hospital boards are largely male. Hospital CEOs are largely male while CNOs are largely female.

It's a tough but true reality.

Even in nursing, a traditionally female occupation, when men become nurses they are often viewed as more qualified. It's no secret that men in nursing make more than women.

Self-Value

But we women have very special qualities. Intuition, compassion. Empathy. We are nurturers. When we focus on those unique gifts and collaborate together, instead of competing with each other, we are our most powerful selves.

No Excuses

This is not to say these explanations are excuses. Excuses are for people who don't take responsibility.

We are a force to be reckoned with once we take responsibility and come together. There are over 3 million nurses in the United States. We act as if we only have a rake when we actually have a bulldozer in the garage. We have enormous ability to bring about change.

How do we rally the masses? I don't know. Nurses do unite in outrage, as in Show Me Your Stethoscope. But there is an apathy around bringing about political change. The nursing profession itself is not unified by the American Nurse's Association (ANA). Some would say the ANA is beholden to the American Hospital Association (AHA). The AHA is a powerful lobby.

For whatever reason, it is time to stand up, stand together, and speak up. There is a grassroots movement that is dedicated to legislating nurse-patient ratios. It's the Nurses Take DC organization.

If every nurse reading this would make a call to their legislator, or write an email- it will make a difference!

Easily find out who your legislators are and make a call.

Write a letter to support H.R. 2392 and S. 1063 Nurse Staffing Standards for Hospital Patient Safety and Quality Care Act of 2017 legislative bills. Legislators respond to topics based on the number of phone calls and mail from their constituents.

Please read Mandated Nurse-Patient Ratios and share it and this article on social media. Use hashtags #NursesTakeDC and #allnursesSTRONG

Specializes in Pediatrics Retired.
I think lambraising is more like it. :whistling:

But...if you lambraise...after a year you'll end up with sheep...and sheep lie!:nailbiting:

But...if you lambraise...after a year you'll end up with sheep...and sheep lie!:nailbiting:

Ewe!!!

Specializes in Pediatrics Retired.
Ewe!!!

Exactly!!!

Specializes in EMS, LTC, Sub-acute Rehab.
I agree that men simply choose to avoid many areas of nursing. I know it's true for me. The only time I've been discriminated against for being a guy is when I would get called to restrain a combative patient or to help with a heavy lift transfer...and you know what? I'm OK with that on many levels. I think, overall, men are not "nurturers" and want to "fix" it and move on and avoid those environments otherwise.

The bed side can be an emotionally toxic cesspool of patient and family drama that spills over into the floor staff. Those swamps cannot be drained effectively, considering some nurse thrive in them. So you either push through it or drive around it. Maybe find a patient 'project' along the way to study the disease process.

Discriminated against?

Absolutely. I've been the target of numerous character assassination attempts involving gossip and alleged sexual misconduct based on my gender. Everything from another staff nurse and I having an affair (because we took lunch together), I touched another nurse inappropriately (She ran into me while making a hasty exit from a room. I grabbed her to keep her from hitting the floor after ricocheting off me.), to rumors my wife married me for a green card (my wife was born the US).

Believe me, I know how to keep my hands to myself. I don't sh!t where I eat. I've sit through countless hours of military grade Equal Employment Opportunity operate conditioning sessions to screw up my career now. But on the flip side, I now know how the victims must feel.

Combative patients and family member, aahhh yes, what a way to break up the day. Because male aggression and domination must be the first answer to most 'uncontrollable situation' which quickly escalated on some else's watch. Lifting, more hands make less work.

Yelp, I'm a "fixer". Just a methodically aggressive nurturer who is emotionally independent from the patient actively seeking medical care. Tour guide on the road to health and recovery, as long as your following the hand rail of compliance.

Oh Good Lord! Drama much? I can see a few good reasons why you might not be hired.

As far as discrimination -- As a male, you have benefitted from the patriarchy. I find it difficult to get all riled up about your "rights" being trampled upon now when women have been run roughshod over by patriarchies for thousands of years. Even in nursing, men are disproportionately promoted to management positions and are paid more per hour than women with the same (or greater) education and experience. (And yes, hospice, too. The only hospice nurses I know are men.)

Interesting...talk about being punished for the sins of others? Drama much??? So because this particular nurse is now being allegedly discriminated against in his work place makes it less discriminatory or pretty much ok in your eyes because men have allegedly been doing it for "thousands of years" to women?

I've seen this same drama play out in another situational context...when I was in Iraq between Sunni's and Shia's...Vindictive behavior begets further vindictive behavior, it's a never ending cycle of hateful repetition.

Lets move beyond pettiness and truly look at the heart of the issue instead of promulgating stereotypes that work to only divide. It's not so much a gender issue in my mind, it's a morality issue. Some people are raised right and with respect for self and others and apply it equally across the board, others (many) are not. This transfers to every reach of society, to include the workplace, obviously.

Specializes in Orthopedics.

I see the "this is just how it is" attitude. It makes me glad that I work in a facility where mostly everyone helps each other. I never thought of it as having to do with the way women are raised or the culture in society. I have noticed as a male RN that sticking up for myself is almost rewarded, whereas my female colleagues are afraid to stick their neck out. I wondered why. In a predominantly female profession, I would have thought that it would be easier for the women I work with to advocate for themselves, I guess. I got some insight from this.

You want to know something else that's strange? Do you all think male nurses get mentioned positively on patient surveys for doing the same things that the women do--but the patients think they're going above and beyond because it's an emotionally intelligent guy? Do you know what I mean? I think it's happening with me. I mean, I'm good at my job and I'll take credit, but I'm not that exceptional . That's not fair.

I remember a time that two male nurses staged a sit-down protest when they got to their unit and saw the horrendous staffing. They were accommodated.

I can safely say that if it were two female nurses their jobs would have been threatened. That's not meant as an excuse for not doing a better job of sticking together, but it is based on life/work experience of many of us women. It's still not an equal playing field.

I was escorted out the door when I refused an assignment. But I guess I wasn't supposed to do that because I'm female? I mean, that's only a male trait apparently. I didn't see any of the male nurses falling suit behind me out that door. They stayed and took it. This whole article is ridiculous.

Hi, Bath

Good information. I am struggling to work with my coworkers and got into truble for not counting narco tic beginning of the shift

I think there is another problem especially where I live and that is cultural. Many nurses in the NJ NY area come from a culture where women seem to be totally run by men so as nurses they r afraid to speak up, afraid they will be shipped back so to speak. Even in a Union setting they rarely speak out Even after many years here. They have created a great disservice to their fellow workers.

Specializes in Cardiac Telemetry, ICU.

I'm so happy to be out of a male dominated environment. I don't miss the misogyny one bit. Thanks for the reminder!

Specializes in LTC, Medical, Rehab, Psych.

Oh please. I’m not entirely sure about the age of this male nurse (OP) but nursing is a business and many of us understand that this is a JOB. We have families and lives outside of work and aren’t interested in organizing or protesting anything. This SJW culture is totally about youth who haven’t had enough time to gain any life experience or to figure out that they can QUIT their jobs if they dislike them so much.

Harsh? Welcome to reality. Time to grow up and put on your big boy pants. Act as a resource and support your co-workers and your own interests FIRST before you try to “change the world.”

And yes, I’m totally aware that AllNurses has become a political “change” promotion site. Not all of us agree with this. I have to WORK for a living. Respect REAL diversity, which is the diversity of IDEAS that are not your own.

Specializes in Retired.

Hate the term "male nurse"...implies that they only care for males:) If we just applied the term "Nurse" to ourselves, it would be a better world. The more men to choose to nurse we have, the better off we'll be because the staff will better reflect the patients and other staff....and our paychecks.