Published Feb 15, 2011
Vtachy1
446 Posts
This would not be caused from anything but ascites right? When they drain 2 1/2 liters, its always ascites related to liver cirrhosis am I not correct?
Horseshoe, BSN, RN
5,879 Posts
Although ascites is usually caused by liver cirrhosis, there are other plausible causes.
http://www.medicinenet.com/ascites/article.htm#causes
rkitty198, BSN, RN
420 Posts
Ascities is the term to describe fluid collection.
Not just caused by liver damage.
Working Oncology many patients with tumors get ascities. Colon, ovarian and pancreatic cancer (many more tumors also).
I have also seen ascities in patients with CHF and pancreatitis.
I had a patient who had almost 8 liters of fluid removed for palliation a short while ago.
netglow, ASN, RN
4,412 Posts
Seen it in ovarian... so bad that.
sonja77
187 Posts
I had a pt a few months ago with ascites and an abdominal mass. They drained over 3 liters and cytology studies of the fluid confirmed a suspected diagnosis of ovarian CA.
GLORIAmunchkin72
650 Posts
"Seen it in ovarian... so bad that. "
By what mechanism?
loriangel14, RN
6,931 Posts
I had a pt on the weekend that we drained 12 litres over 2 days.
"Seen it in ovarian... so bad that. "By what mechanism?
The cancer cells produce fluid that builds up in the abdominal cavity.
http://ovariancancer.about.com/od/ovariancancerglossary/g/ovca_ascites.htm
Thank you very much....
The cancer cells produce fluid that builds up in the abdominal cavity.http://ovariancancer.about.com/od/ovariancancerglossary/g/ovca_ascites.htm
opjewel
36 Posts
it can be so disheartening i had a patient in the operating room with cancer of the ovaries, 8500mls of fluid was drained. the worst of all was that she was 83 years old.
leslie :-D
11,191 Posts
i've seen a few liters tapped from thoracentesis alone.
many more liters from paracentesis.
when you see all that is removed, you can't help but KNOW what a palliative measure it is...
even if it has to be done daily, which often it does.
i can't imagine having all that excess fluid.
leslie
OrionQuiltsRN
45 Posts
Last year I was diagnosed with Burkitt's Lymphoma. My first belly tap produced 2.5 L, three days later 3.9 L, and three days after that was 4.9 L. The lymphoma was producing the fluid, and as soon as I began chemo the ascites stopped. I felt like I was 10 months pregnant. I was miserable!