Being a born again believer in The Lord Jesus Christ, has been good for me. I am a nurse, and every nurse may at some time or other experienced the frustrations, stresses, dissatisfaction, that is experienced by many nurses. Despite it all, I just love nursing. I love to see when my intervention make someone happy. I love to make patient or people in general feel important. When I smile to people, i love the way they respond. The joy I see on their faces makes it very rewarding, even when it seemed that they are angry. I have come to understand how to treat others with kindness even when they may be rude or unfriendly. You may ask, Why? My relationship with the Lord has made it all possible. I just finished studying for my Bachelors Science in Nursing, and I must say, without my solid foundation. I would have been pulling my hair out. I remained positive, while at the same time encouraged other nurses to look on the bright side. I firmly believe, having a relationship with The Lord Jesus Christ will make one a better nurse, because of the love, compassion, empathy, understanding, calmness, and seeing people as unique human beings. All these can be yours when one accepts the Lord in ones life.You want to be a better nurse? Trust in the Lord!
No, I can't prove anyones's religion as false - or true . I also can't prove that the Michelin man is not at this very moment making spaghetti on the dark side of the moon. I can say that there has been a long history of 'us vs them' r/t religions, geography, color, ... I can also say that I get frustrated with dogma in general . As the bumper sticker of my earlier years said: "My karma ran over my dogma"[/quote
The onus lies with the person making the assertion. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Thus to make such a bold statement as "Accepting Jesus Christ will make you a better nurse" , one must be willing to engage in a debate as to what evidence supports such a statement.[/quote']
Yes, but you also claim it's bogus. I would say prove it, but you can't either. Really everyone is just talking in circles.
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The OP has the right to believe in what they wish and how they feel it is good for them. They are in an appropriate forum. I accept people for who they are and what they believe in has no bearing on my life. If it makes them feel better then good for them.
Yes but you also claim it's bogus. I would say prove it, but you can't either. Really everyone is just talking in circles.[/quote']
You'd enjoy a quick read about Bertrand Russell's Tea Pot. Though I hold no high expectation that the irony of your comments would really resonance afterward.
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The onus lies with the person making the assertion. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Thus, to make such a bold statement as "Accepting Jesus Christ will make you a better nurse" , one must be willing to engage in a debate as to what evidence supports such a statement.
It would be nice if the OP would check back in for clarification of statements. However, since that hasn't happened in a bit, I'll take a shot at it. In accepting Jesus Christ one SHOULD be a better nurse, a better wife/husband/mother/father/sister/brother/daughter/son....person---with true humility. This is not just through the act of accepting Him, but instead desiring to be like Him, to honor Him in how we live our lives. I would love to think that just because a person has "accepted Jesus" and calls themselves Christian that there would be a huge difference in quality of care, etc., but sadly, that is sometimes (often?) not the case. "Striving toward the mark" is an ongoing process.
The OP has the right to believe in what they wish and how they feel it is good for them. They are in an appropriate forum. I accept people for who they are and what they believe in has no bearing on my life. If it makes them feel better then good for them.
They have that right.
They do have that right. They even have the right to say things that may be hurtful or offensive.
And I have the right to say "I find your presumption that you are better than me based on your belief in a god different from mine to be false ."
But can you, or anyone else here, prove that her religion is false?
Of course not.
But that's where the whole "flying spaghetti monster" thing comes from. NO RELIGION can be disproved. In the eyes of the scientific community, Adam and Eve is as likely a story as the FSM. or q magical fairy. Or dinosaurs building human dolls that they bring to life with the power of love. None of those scenarios can be disproven.
But those are all equally outrageous stories. If you're going to believe any one of them are true, fine. But why do people get so defensive when someone says "okay, prove it...."?
It would be nice if the OP would check back in for clarification of statements. However since that hasn't happened in a bit, I'll take a shot at it. In accepting Jesus Christ one SHOULD be a better nurse, a better wife/husband/mother/father/sister/brother/daughter/son....person---with true humility. This is not just through the act of accepting Him, but instead desiring to be like Him, to honor Him in how we live our lives. I would love to think that just because a person has "accepted Jesus" and calls themselves Christian that there would be a huge difference in quality of care, etc., but sadly, that is sometimes (often?) not the case. "Striving toward the mark" is an ongoing process.[/quote']
I find this to be a perfectly reasonable position to take. This would have been a much shorter/less interesting thread had OP taken this angle. Thanks for lending your thoughts to the conversation. I've thoroughly enjoyed the various back and forth comments in this thread.
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I find this to be a perfectly reasonable position to take. This would have been a much shorter/less interesting thread had OP taken this angle. Thanks for lending your thoughts to the conversation. I've thoroughly enjoyed the various back and forth comments in this thread.
And, I appreciate your comments without attacking. Yeah, I suppose you are right about the interest and length being different. It has been enlightening, that's for sure!
It would be nice if the OP would check back in for clarification of statements. However since that hasn't happened in a bit, I'll take a shot at it. In accepting Jesus Christ one SHOULD be a better nurse, a better wife/husband/mother/father/sister/brother/daughter/son....person---with true humility. This is not just through the act of accepting Him, but instead desiring to be like Him, to honor Him in how we live our lives. I would love to think that just because a person has "accepted Jesus" and calls themselves Christian that there would be a huge difference in quality of care, etc., but sadly, that is sometimes (often?) not the case. "Striving toward the mark" is an ongoing process.[/quote']
I agree that striving towards a mark is a good thing. I think that the many of the posters that had issues with the OP felt that the only valid mark was through Christianity. I believe that here are many valid 'marks' that people strive for. Some are religion based, others are less organized religion and more personal/ spiritual. For me, I am more of a humanist, with my basic operating system (dogma.....) being treat people and our world with respect, and hopefully understanding and kindness.
And this is why I am not so keen on deities that do not
do likewise. I am not saying that if there is a god/gods that they would be vengeful and cruel at times, just that I cannot in true conscience, follow or respect them.
I also don't believe that being an atheist necessarily makes you a better person than a believer. The proof is in the pudding.
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Chopwood carrywater--The "striving for the mark" is for a true Christian key. It's from the writings of the apostle Paul who said: "I press on toward the mark of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus", meaning as Christ followers we are to keep on keeping on, striving to be more like Him day to day. That should color everything we do. Hopefully a true Christian--one with a relationship with God through Christ--would have the same basic operating system as you, to treat people and our world with understanding and respect, with understanding and kindness. Unfortunately in the past (maybe even currently in some quarters) the name of Christ has been mutilated by many who claim to be His by doing just the opposite. As you say, the "proof is in the pudding", for true believers and non-believers alike. That's what people see. For a Christian, the outflow of the work of Christ in us should produce "good pudding".
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