I do not like politics. I am neither a liberal nor a conservative so I don't like arguing about political sides.
I do want to know about this health care bill. So far, I know that it is saying that health insurance companies will be more regulated and people will be forced to purchase health insurance but....
- How are people going to purchase health insurance if they can't afford it now?
- How is this going to affect patient care?
- How will nurses be affected by this?
I want to know any basic information about this bill but I am a nursing student so... as is most likely shocking to all of you... I don't have much time to research it, lol.
Linda, your analogy makes no sense since this ISN'T free.
Requiring insurance is a good idea; now hospitals won't have to jack up prices from all the people visiting the ER without insurance and not paying for it.
I don't believe healthcare should be a privilege available only to those rich enough to afford it. And people taking out LOANS to pay for healthcare?!?!!? ARE YOU MAD?!?!
How very clever. You're right... it's the end of civilized healthcare as we know it. OMG, I've been so blind. I'd better plan an immediate move to an industrialized country without healthcare for all.... hmm, Red China, here I come.
Linda, your analogy makes no sense since this ISN'T free.
Requiring insurance is a good idea; now hospitals won't have to jack up prices from all the people visiting the ER without insurance and not paying for it.
You don't think insurance companies will raise rates? How are they going to pay for all the new customers with preexisting conditions?
I don't believe healthcare should be a privilege available only to those rich enough to afford it. And people taking out LOANS to pay for healthcare?!?!!? ARE YOU MAD?!?!
Do you think people should have to take out loans to get a house?
Linda, your analogy makes no sense since this ISN'T free.
Requiring insurance is a good idea; now hospitals won't have to jack up prices from all the people visiting the ER without insurance and not paying for it.
I don't believe healthcare should be a privilege available only to those rich enough to afford it. And people taking out LOANS to pay for healthcare?!?!!? ARE YOU MAD?!?!
I don't think only rich people should be able to get health care either. I think we are completely gutting the power of the free market to innovate and lower prices(as it has in just about every other industry it is allowed to.) I think Government has been handcuffing healthcare for so long and that is why prices are so high. I think we should have looked for solutions that would have reduced government stifling of innovation and allowed prices to fall so that everyone can get access to health care and everyone's healthcare can get better.
Requiring insurance is a good idea; now hospitals won't have to jack up prices from all the people visiting the ER without insurance and not paying for it.
But I don't think this is all of the problem. We also have a good majority of our patients on Medicare/Medicaid that doesn't pay as much as insurance does. How does adding more patients going to help the hospitals if they're still getting less money for those patients and using more supplies?
How very clever. You're right... it's the end of civilized healthcare as we know it. OMG I've been so blind. I'd better plan an immediate move to an industrialized country without healthcare for all.... hmm, Red China, here I come.[/quote']
Why did you omit the dozens of disadvantages listed in your article?
Gee - I didn't list out the advantages either - I just referred people to the article - which does list both advantages and disadvantages, but concludes that overall most sectors of the industry come out ahead. That may be a debatable conclusion, but this is pretty much an insider, industry friendly source that has no particular reason to paint a rosier picture than reality.
Gee - I didn't list out the advantages either - I just referred people to the article - which does list both advantages and disadvantages, but concludes that overall most sectors of the industry come out ahead. That may be a debatable conclusion, but this is pretty much an insider, industry friendly source that has no particular reason to paint a rosier picture than reality.
The only way insurance companies can survive is if they raise premiums. And they will.
I lived and worked in Italy for several years and was under their universal health care system. My income taxes on a salary of approx $50,000 were 60%!
Everyone who could afford it, with any kind of serious illness or possibly serious illness worked the system by paying full price to private doctors, and getting tests and drugs paid by the system. I was fortunate enough to have a friend who was a surgeon and so when I had to get a diagnostic test done at a hospital, instead of waiting 4 months on the waiting list, he got me in in 3 days. That is what happens in such a system. The poor people without funds and connections go to the back of the line!! I am totally against it. This is the direction we are going in.
Why don't members of Congress fall under the new system? Why are certain Unions exempt? They know how the new system will work!
I don't think anyone knows what this bill is really going to do. Including the people who wrote it. It has been so cut-and-pasted together, that only when the IRS updates its tax codes will anyone REALLY know how much its going to cost and who can qualify for the expanded care.
After its been chugging along for a few years, and the providers, hospitals and insurance companies see the trends in their profitability, only then will we see/feel what changes THEY make to the system within their rights as a corporate entity. Don't know if that will be good or bad.
I don't think anyone knows what this bill is really going to do. Including the people who wrote it. It has been so cut-and-pasted together, that only when the IRS updates its tax codes will anyone REALLY know how much its going to cost and who can qualify for the expanded care.
You're exactly right. Obama doesn't care what is in the bill. He just wanted it to pass so he will have accomplished something.
I lived and worked in Italy for several years and was under their universal health care system. My income taxes on a salary of approx $50,000 were 60%!
Everyone who could afford it, with any kind of serious illness or possibly serious illness worked the system by paying full price to private doctors, and getting tests and drugs paid by the system. I was fortunate enough to have a friend who was a surgeon and so when I had to get a diagnostic test done at a hospital, instead of waiting 4 months on the waiting list, he got me in in 3 days. That is what happens in such a system. The poor people without funds and connections go to the back of the line!! I am totally against it. This is the direction we are going in.
Why don't members of Congress fall under the new system? Why are certain Unions exempt? They know how the new system will work!
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greygooseuria
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Linda, your analogy makes no sense since this ISN'T free.
Requiring insurance is a good idea; now hospitals won't have to jack up prices from all the people visiting the ER without insurance and not paying for it.
I don't believe healthcare should be a privilege available only to those rich enough to afford it. And people taking out LOANS to pay for healthcare?!?!!? ARE YOU MAD?!?!