Leaving Your Job Due to Mandate

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For those of you who have recognized your employer can terminate you for not taking the COVID vaccine and have decided on or are considering employment elsewhere please share your experiences here. How do you feel about having to make that choice? 

The purpose of this thread is not to condemn those making this decision or debate whether they should vaccinate or not. 

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And no, nurses who work COVID don't necessarily stay in COVID units. They float around.

All the more reason a vaccine is necessary and that everyone eligible should be vaccinated.

 

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It sounds like you don't think that covid infections are the root of the problem in American healthcare at this moment.  

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/19/1029378744/hospital-beds-shortage-covid-coronavirus-states

https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2021/07/26/overwhelmed-us-hospital-systems-a-look-into-the-future/

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/federal-team-sent-to-alabama-hospital-overwhelmed-by-covid-19-patients.html

Wrong. So so wrong. That's not my point. At all. I'm saying it's not as simple as people choosing to not be vaccinated. And that forbes article reads like CCP propaganda. Less than 100,000 cases in a country with over a billion people? You CAN'T believe that. China has been lying about their economic numbers for decades. Why would this be any different? 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

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24 minutes ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

Let's don't forget the big rally in Sturgis, the COVID rates are skyrocketing in South Dakota now, too.

Do you have a source tying the recent spike directly to the sturgis rally? (Correlation vs causation etc)

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I will look for you.....

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/south-dakota-covid-cases-quintuple-after-sturgis-motorcycle-rally-n1277567

Headline:

South Dakota Covid cases quintuple after Sturgis motorcycle rally

Meade County, home to Sturgis, has had a more than 1,500 percent increase in cases in the past 14 days.

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/27/1031809289/the-sturgis-motorcycle-rally-set-off-a-surge-of-covid-cases-in-south-dakota

The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally Set Off A Surge Of COVID Cases In South Dakota

August 27, 20214:14 PM ET

 

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210825/for-second-year-covid-cases-up-after-sturgis-motorcycle-rally

For Second Year, COVID-19 Cases Up After Sturgis Motorcycle Rally....

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/08/24/covid-cases-spike-after-sturgis-motorcycle-rally-again/?sh=5e40dfb46915

Covid Cases Spike After Sturgis Motorcycle Rally—Again

 

Those are just 4 links to various sources backing up what I said.

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4 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

Wrong. So so wrong. That's not my point. At all. I'm saying it's not as simple as people choosing to not be vaccinated. And that forbes article reads like CCP propaganda. Less than 100,000 cases in a country with over a billion people? You CAN'T believe that. China has been lying about their economic numbers for decades. Why would this be any different? 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

Right.

It doesn't make sense to rely on statistics from a country that has state run media and completely censors the internet.

The Chinese govt has no oversight

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5 minutes ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/south-dakota-covid-cases-quintuple-after-sturgis-motorcycle-rally-n1277567

Headline:

South Dakota Covid cases quintuple after Sturgis motorcycle rally

Meade County, home to Sturgis, has had a more than 1,500 percent increase in cases in the past 14 days.

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/27/1031809289/the-sturgis-motorcycle-rally-set-off-a-surge-of-covid-cases-in-south-dakota

The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally Set Off A Surge Of COVID Cases In South Dakota

August 27, 20214:14 PM ET

 

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210825/for-second-year-covid-cases-up-after-sturgis-motorcycle-rally

For Second Year, COVID-19 Cases Up After Sturgis Motorcycle Rally....

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/08/24/covid-cases-spike-after-sturgis-motorcycle-rally-again/?sh=5e40dfb46915

Covid Cases Spike After Sturgis Motorcycle Rally—Again

 

Those are just 4 links to various sources backing up what I said.

Heres an example of spin. Obama's birthday party. Two weeks later, Martha's vineyard is spiking. But "no link found" per the experts. This is the media spin. You found media claiming a link to the sturgis rally. But no link found to Obama bday. There is a bias. 

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/aug/24/marthas-vineyard-hospital-post-obama-bash-overrun-/

Now, don't get me wrong. All large crowds have the potential to spread. But there is a clear bias to blame Republican side of this. BLM is given a pass, Trump rallies, full blame. The truth is all large groups carry the same risk. There probably was spread from sturgis. But there was also spread from BLM rallies. This virus is a-political.

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OH I definitely do not approve of Obama's birthday get together.

BUTTTTT

100s of thousands attended Sturgis.

700 at Obama's birthday.

Big difference in my book.

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3 minutes ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

OH I definitely do not approve of Obama's birthday get together.

BUTTTTT

100s of thousands attended Sturgis.

700 at Obama's birthday.

Big difference in my book.

I updated my post. I don't reserve blame  from the red team. I see you don't reserve blame from the blue team. In that we are agreed. But the media is biased. And the population gets their news from the media. My over riding point is, we can't keep pushing the blame game. It's not sturgis. It's not Obama party. It's all the above. 

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No I don't. The party for Obama was OUT OF LINE and the WRONG message to send! I am with you 100%.

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26 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

Wrong. So so wrong. That's not my point. At all. I'm saying it's not as simple as people choosing to not be vaccinated. And that forbes article reads like CCP propaganda. Less than 100,000 cases in a country with over a billion people? You CAN'T believe that. China has been lying about their economic numbers for decades. Why would this be any different? 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

Cherry picking are you?

From the Forbes article that you dismissed because it talked about China and Taiwan;

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A new study conducted via the U.S. Premier Healthcare Database revealed nearly one in every four Covid-19 deaths may be attributed to hospital strain related to case overload. The results exposed staggering mortality rates suggesting that, despite improvements in Covid-19 survival between March and August 2020, surges in hospital Covid-19 caseload remain detrimental to survival and potentially erode benefits gained from emerging treatments. The lack of preparation from hospitals experiencing high surges and even higher mortality rates is devastating and, furthermore, reveals an opportunity for the United States to take steps forward to prevent this from happening again.

Hospitals around the globe have contended with large surges in Covid-19 patients throughout the pandemic. The U.S., in particular, has been met with a rapidly escalating demand due to staff availability and burnout, limited space and supplies, and a decrease in personal protective equipment (PPE) to effectively treat patients. Insufficient intensive care unit (ICU) bed availability and increasing community case burden have also been implicated as risk factors for poor Covid-19 patient outcomes.

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Although we can learn from other hospital systems, the U.S. certainly has the capability to manage Covid-19 as well or better than any country in the world. A coordinated effort must be implemented across all states to ensure that hospitals have the capacity to deliver high quality care even in the midst of a crisis. Such a systematic rethink also requires long-term planning as Covid-19 will not be the last pandemic this generation of Americans will experience. 

 

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Some of you never had to write a paper backed by credible sources and peer-reviewed research...
and it absolutely shows.

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