Leaving Your Job Due to Mandate

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For those of you who have recognized your employer can terminate you for not taking the COVID vaccine and have decided on or are considering employment elsewhere please share your experiences here. How do you feel about having to make that choice? 

The purpose of this thread is not to condemn those making this decision or debate whether they should vaccinate or not. 

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28 minutes ago, macawake said:

It’s good that you plan on getting vaccinated, but your fears regarding mRNA vaccines are unfounded.

The spike protein is not a disease ”vector”. (A mosquito is one example of a vector that can spread disease). They are just a part of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, a part that cannot cause an Covid-19 infection.

You do not introduce ”pathology” into your body. You just make your body recognize the spike protein and be able to better mount a defense should you encounter the whole disease-causing pathogen (the virus) in the future. Your body degrades the spike protein your cells made within weeks after the vaccination, just as your body breaks down other proteins. It doesn’t stick around in or on your cells.

https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/video/what-stops-body-continuing-produce-covid-19-spike-protein-after-getting-mrna-vaccine

https://www.idsociety.org/covid-19-real-time-learning-network/vaccines/vaccines-information--faq/


 

If the spike protein has you concerned, you certainly must realize that you remain susceptible and vulnerable to it considering your unvaccinated status. But you won’t just get the spike protein introduced into your body if you become infected, you will actually get the whole virus, which is what causes disease. Trying to protect yourself from the spike protein by not getting vaccinated isn’t logical. 
 


 

 

I respect your position. I understand what the manufacturers claim about their products. I get it and I'm not against vaccination in general (just got my tdap booster a week ago). I respect your position in support of this. I hope you can return the favor. It was claimed that the viral load was confined to injection site. That is not apparently the case. I'm not making this up and I'm not the only one concerned. Here is a letter to the editor from BMJ. https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n958/rr-1

It's not long, but please read it to understand these concerns of mine are not conspiracy theory. If spike protein crosses the blood brain barrier, that's a potential for stroke. If the protein ends up in the kidney, that's a potential for renal disease. The letter outlines a discussion about platelet activation. Some drs are running small scale studies on clotting with up to 70% positive ddimers. Etc. All the pro vaccine people are completely ignoring anyone with concerns and that is alarming to me. My risk for serious disease is low given my profile. They are telling people with active anti bodies they still need the vaccine. They do not. This is immunology 101 here. There's too much cognitive dissonance to ignore from authorities imposing mandates. It is not unreasonable to have concerns about these vaccines. That's all I'm saying. 

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11 minutes ago, Horseshoe said:

Says the person who made this comment:

"As for me, I don't want the mrna. Why? Because it causes my own cells to mark themselves with disease vector."

Yet you refuse to answer. If you have antibodies and have recovered from covid, do you need the vaccine? Yes or no?

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16 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

Yet you refuse to answer. If you have antibodies and have recovered from covid, do you need the vaccine? Yes or no?

YES!!!

Can I make it any plainer.

I'm fed up stating this and providing links.

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5 minutes ago, GrumpyRN said:

YES!

Can I make it any plainer.

I'm fed up stating this and providing links.

WRONG! Natural immunity is a thing. The fact breakthrough cases exist is a thing. The point of a vaccine is to replicate what happens when you get infected without getting infected. To dismiss natural immunity as no longer valid is alarming. 

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11 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

WRONG! Natural immunity is a thing. The fact breakthrough cases exist is a thing. The point of a vaccine is to replicate what happens when you get infected without getting infected. To dismiss natural immunity as no longer valid is alarming. 

What's alarming is the ignorance spread about this disease and the vaccines by people who claim to be nurses.  

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1 minute ago, toomuchbaloney said:

What's alarming is the ignorance spread about this disease and the vaccines by people who claim to be nurses.  

I agree. Not to mention the blind trust given to government agencies demanding universal drug administration regardless of the individual's unique situation. That is never a good idea. It is alarming. I agree with you. 

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7 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

I agree. Not to mention the blind trust given to government agencies demanding universal drug administration regardless of the individual's unique situation. That is never a good idea. It is alarming. I agree with you. 

Blind trust? Oh...that's reserved for the Youtube and social media opinions that whisper fear and doubt into your anxious brain.  They are the anonymous and unaccountable voices that also seek to grift a few from some cash in the process.  You don't agree with me...you are confused. 

The covid vaccines are safe and effective and all eligible adults should vaccinate ASAP. 

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1 minute ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Blind trust? Oh...that's reserved for the Youtube and social media opinions that whisper fear and doubt into your anxious brain.  They are the anonymous and unaccountable voices that also seek to grift a few from some cash in the process.  You don't agree with me...you are confused. 

The covid vaccines are safe and effective and all eligible adults should vaccinate ASAP. 

The longer all concerns are blindly dismissed, the longer people will avoid getting the vaccine. Dismissal invites distrust.

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"Blind trust"?. Hardly. Trusting years of scientific research is hardly blind!

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3 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

The longer all concerns are blindly dismissed, the longer people will avoid getting the vaccine. Dismissal invites distrust.

No one is blindly dismissing concerns.  The unvaccinated simply refuse to believe any of the science, data, evidence or expert analysis that is in conflict with their feelings, beliefs and fears. You are responsible for your fears and distrust. 

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Just now, SmilingBluEyes said:

"Blind trust"?. Hardly. Trusting years of scientific research is hardly blind!

One of the biggest gripes with these vaccines is how it was rushed out the door. "Years of research" =\= "operation warpspeed". A Texas senate hearing with many practicing drs from various fields discussed many of the concerns people have in a fact based, evidence based way using their expertise and experience, such as natural immunity already in place. You've chosen who to trust and automatically dismiss any concerns that disagree with you. That's not how science works.

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It was not rushed. These types of vaccines have been studied for over 20 years! And the sample public getting these is HUGE. Billions worldwide.

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