January 6 Select Committee

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Things seem to be unfolding rather quickly. Former White House aides and advisors are scrambling to cover themselves as they receive subpoenas to appear and produce documents. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/03/clark-eastman-fifth-amendment/

It’s rare when lawyers — as opposed to their clients — take the Fifth Amendment. But Jeffrey Clark, the former Justice Department lawyer who reportedly tried to help Donald Trump overturn the 2020 presidential election, is now claiming the privilege against self-incrimination to avoid testifying before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. He has just been joined in that posture by one of Trump’s main outside legal advisers, John Eastman.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/08/politics/mark-meadows-lawsuit/index.html

The lawsuit comes after the committee signaled it would pursue a criminal contempt referral against Meadows because of his refusal to sit for a deposition in the investigation into the Capitol riot. Meadows alleges that the subpoenas are "overly broad and unduly burdensome," while claiming that the committee "lacks lawful authority to seek and to obtain" the information requested.

And apparently Mark Meadows had a power point outlining how to overturn election results. 

https://www.newsweek.com/mark-meadows-powerpoint-January-election-results-trump-1658076

The 38-page presentation, entitled "Election Fraud, Foreign Interference & Options for 6 Jan," is dated one day before the Capitol riot. It's believed to have been submitted by Meadows after he was subpoenaed by the panel in connection with the insurrection.

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On 6/23/2022 at 8:04 PM, heron said:

Agree that it’s a bit late in the day to be clutching at pearls over process.

Two Republicans actually managed to get themselves on the committee, so I know it was possible to do. If the Republicans retake the house, they’re welcome to revisit the evidence and ask their questions. I would look forward to it … a chance to compare versions side-by-side. Meanwhile, I’m keeping an eye on Texas. The state Republican platform  is scary. 

There are 49 other states you are free to give live in.  Don't worry Republicans will continue the hearings and subpoena under oath Schiff for brains and Pelosi.

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3 hours ago, MaybeeRN said:

There are 49 other states you are free to give live in.  Don't worry Republicans will continue the hearings and subpoena under oath Schiff for brains and Pelosi.

So? Apparently congressional subpoenas are meaningless according to current Republicans... or was that just an issue with dishonesty and cowardice among Trump's political appointees and sycophants?

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3 hours ago, MaybeeRN said:

Yes, let's see ALL the tapes no just the selective ones that Dems want us to see.  You mean following the laws like sanctuary cities do?  Give me a break

LOL

That's funny coming from a person who won't consume even a couple hours of evidence but is demanding more evidence...that will be ignored.  Did you listen to Trump pressure and make thinly veiled threats in the hour long call to Georgia officials? 

Right, I didn't think so.

Maybe someday you'll want to talk about the available facts and evidence rather than guessing that there might be a reasonable explanation for all of the lies and corrupt behavior that surround Trump's attempt to retain lost power. 

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  4 hours ago, MaybeeRN said:

There are 49 other states you are free to give live in.  Don't worry Republicans will continue the hearings and subpoena under oath Schiff for brains and Pelosi.

 

What are you - 14 years old?  Schiff for brains?  How unoriginal and childish. Also the sentences don't make any sense.  Did you mean free to "live" in?  Coherency would be greatly appreciated.

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7 hours ago, MaybeeRN said:

There are 49 other states you are free to give live in.  Don't worry Republicans will continue the hearings and subpoena under oath Schiff for brains and Pelosi.

When my son moved to Texas, I declined to go along. He’s now making plans to leave the state. (I still worry about my grandchildren: one is transgender, one is bisexual.) It’ll be interesting to watch what happens to their demographics while the Republican Party is trying to stuff the genie back in the bottle. If the population drops enough to threaten the reduction of their congressional House seats, I bet they’ll be singing a whole other tune about the border, given that Latinos are increasingly flipping to the Republican Party. Frankly, I hope they really do secede … I’m tired of my tax money being wasted subsidizing a bunch of dominionists and fascists. 

I look forward to seeing what republicans do to the hearings … if it comes anywhere near the Monty Python-esque comedies on Benghazi and HRC’s emails, it should be quite entertaining.

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7 hours ago, MaybeeRN said:

Yes, let's see ALL the tapes no just the selective ones that Dems want us to see.  You mean following the laws like sanctuary cities do?  Give me a break

No one is stopping anyone from proving the democrats wrong … in fact, we’ve been waiting since 2020. Put up or shut up.

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4 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

So? Apparently congressional subpoenas are meaningless according to current Republicans... or was that just an issue with dishonesty and cowardice among Trump's political appointees and sycophants?

So the protection of Justices is meaningless according to Democrats when they make judgments they do not agree with.... or is it just an issue with dishonest , hypocritical change our democratic processess when things don't go their way psychopaths? Like stacking the court, filibuster and electoral college? 

Or violence against some people is okay when it's people that the Democtats agree with? And Republicans must denounce all acts of violence, real or precieved to appease democrats but the POTUS cannot come out and denounce violence against Supreme Court Justices. The hypocrisy is deafening and sick and come November , will hopefully end. 

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1 hour ago, heron said:

No one is stopping anyone from proving the democrats wrong … in fact, we’ve been waiting since 2020. Put up or shut up.

Wait come November...

6 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

So? Apparently congressional subpoenas are meaningless according to current Republicans... or was that just an issue with dishonesty and cowardice among Trump's political appointees and sycophants?

Pretty much when it involves a kangaroo congressional court.  FBI said nothing indictable and Biden DOJ even thinks it’s a waste of time.

1 hour ago, heron said:

No one is stopping anyone from proving the democrats wrong … in fact, we’ve been waiting since 2020. Put up or shut up.

To be proven wrong you first have to prove something right.  Democratic epic fail.

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1 hour ago, heron said:

When my son moved to Texas, I declined to go along. He’s now making plans to leave the state. (I still worry about my grandchildren: one is transgender, one is bisexual.) It’ll be interesting to watch what happens to their demographics while the Republican Party is trying to stuff the genie back in the bottle. If the population drops enough to threaten the reduction of their congressional House seats, I bet they’ll be singing a whole other tune about the border, given that Latinos are increasingly flipping to the Republican Party. Frankly, I hope they really do secede … I’m tired of my tax money being wasted subsidizing a bunch of dominionists and fascists. 

I look forward to seeing what republicans do to the hearings … if it comes anywhere near the Monty Python-esque comedies on Benghazi and HRC’s emails, it should be quite entertaining.

There is no threat to LGBTQ other than not allowing porographic material to be viewed by children under the guise of "LGBTQ incusivity". 

Latinos are flipping because they see the Republicans are more in line with their values. Let us not forget that Latinos also immigrate legally into the US. They work hard and lawfully. Most do not appreciate anyone coming in illegally when they went through the legal immigration progress. 

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On 6/22/2022 at 10:31 PM, Justlookingfornow said:

No. Trump has done allot of incriminating things but this is pretty far fetched. He said this is what happens when people feel there's an injustice, you know, just like BLM riots. Except he told them to go home in peace and love, not call it a Summer of love. Like the autonomous zone chop or Chaz complete  with its own boarder patrol, militant policing and rapes and murders. Of POC no less. In the US! Ha. Ridiculous! 

Yes, this is what happens before criminal charges are brought up. However we all know this won't happen, even if they could. That would mean a defence and that's is not what these committee members want. They want to spout off their one sided BS without any push back. 

Right, we can see all this on-line with his entire speech. The FBI already said there was no evidence of prior planning. Yet we are here.......  

Last Summer the FBI had said there hadn't been prior planning, or at least had not yet revealed any, although now we know of at least two groups who had established plans prior to Jan 6th, the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys.

I would agree though that it would be unfair to accuse Trump of excessively micromanaging the details of how to implement the goal he had set forth.  Although I also don't see how that establishes that Trump did nothing wrong.  If mob boss says that somebody needs to be taken out, would you say he didn't do anything wrong so long as he didn't specify the logistics how to make that happen?

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1 hour ago, Justlookingfornow said:

So the protection of Justices is meaningless according to Democrats when they make judgments they do not agree with.... or is it just an issue with dishonest , hypocritical change our democratic processess when things don't go their way psychopaths? Like stacking the court, filibuster and electoral college? 

Or violence against some people is okay when it's people that the Democtats agree with? And Republicans must denounce all acts of violence, real or precieved to appease democrats but the POTUS cannot come out and denounce violence against Supreme Court Justices. The hypocrisy is deafening and sick and come November , will hopefully end. 

Nice deflection to a bit of right wing rhetoric that is completely unrelated to the fact that republicans are currently ignoring congressional subpoenas while you are suggesting that a republican congress should subpoena democrats for some hyperbolic claim. The stacked court pearl clutching is especially amusing in an ironic fashion at this particular moment in time. Or maybe you believe that the elevation of Gorsuch and Coney-Barrett weren't political court packing. 

Be careful what you wish for.  The party that excuses an attempt to overthrow the 2020 presidential election and talks about running their twice impeached ex president who inspires such anti-american sentiment again in 2024, just harvested the fruits of their court stacking and dishonesty by turning women's reproductive health care and financial security over to the political whims of their state governments. Those things may not play out as well as Republicans might prefer on election day...unless they are confident that they now have adequate control of the elections and vote counting and they don't need to worry about the views of the majority anymore. 

Get back to me about your concerns regarding the filibuster when women's rights aren't a political football for conservatives. There does need to be reform to how the electoral college votes are determined. 

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