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Things seem to be unfolding rather quickly. Former White House aides and advisors are scrambling to cover themselves as they receive subpoenas to appear and produce documents.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/03/clark-eastman-fifth-amendment/
It’s rare when lawyers — as opposed to their clients — take the Fifth Amendment. But Jeffrey Clark, the former Justice Department lawyer who reportedly tried to help Donald Trump overturn the 2020 presidential election, is now claiming the privilege against self-incrimination to avoid testifying before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. He has just been joined in that posture by one of Trump’s main outside legal advisers, John Eastman.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/08/politics/mark-meadows-lawsuit/index.html
The lawsuit comes after the committee signaled it would pursue a criminal contempt referral against Meadows because of his refusal to sit for a deposition in the investigation into the Capitol riot. Meadows alleges that the subpoenas are "overly broad and unduly burdensome," while claiming that the committee "lacks lawful authority to seek and to obtain" the information requested.
And apparently Mark Meadows had a power point outlining how to overturn election results.
https://www.newsweek.com/mark-meadows-powerpoint-January-election-results-trump-1658076
The 38-page presentation, entitled "Election Fraud, Foreign Interference & Options for 6 Jan," is dated one day before the Capitol riot. It's believed to have been submitted by Meadows after he was subpoenaed by the panel in connection with the insurrection.
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6 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:In your opinion they did nothing...that's the right wing narrative.
So you don't know about the republicans like MO Brooks or Jim Jordan or Marjorie Taylor Greene who've blown smoke about what happened? Or maybe this guy who thought that the images of the riot looked like an orderly tour. His name is Andrew Clyde and he's also from Georgia, like MTG.
There are other congressional cheerleaders like, Cruz or Hawley, are you familiar with their response or remarks about January 6? The Senate is slowly considering ethics breaches for them because of their roles in perpetuating the lies about election integrity that Trump spread to motivate that mob.
Your characterization of BLM is a product of extreme right wing rhetoric. Since you don't live in the USA your opinion of BLM protests and intentions is second and third hand...you only know what the media you consume tells you and reinforces in regular content. You've been led to believe that January 6 was no big deal.
We know what media people consume when they share links. We know the quality of the media content that others consume by considering what they know and share about a topic or by the accuracy of their opinion on a subject. You characterize my discussion of media accuracy and bias as me "insulting" your media. That's an odd choice of words. I cannot imagine why you would be insulted by discovering that there is a tool available which examines and compares media outlets in areas of accuracy and political bias. It's a good tool.
There is BLM in Canada. It's interesting that you mention I live in Canada so often as it somehow discredits my opinion. Do you actively discriminate against ones nationality? Besides, you live in Alaska, I live on the border so I'm closer than you are if you want to get immature.
22 hours ago, MunoRN said:I'd say I don't know where you're getting that BLM rioters and January 6th rioters were given different treatment in court, except I do, it's been a common myth in far-right media, but not actually true' https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8
Ashli Babbitt was shot after breaching the final door prior to where the Vice President had been secured, where he was understandably being aggressively protected since the mob coming after him (which included Babbitt) had made it clear by that point that their goal was to force Pence to certify Trump as the winner of the election through threat of, or actual, violence.
And I think you've misstated the coroner's cause of death of Brian Sicknick, while the coroner found he didn't die of blunt force trauma, he stated that the events of January 6th contributed to his death.
Whether Trump expected that his rhetoric would cause what happened at the Capital on January 6th isn't really up for debate, he's openly admitted to it.
You don't have problem criticizing those that downplay the crimes and harm caused by the BLM riots and I completely agree with you, but if your point is that those people are hypocrites for condemning the Jan 6th riots but not the BLM riots, then how are you any different when you're doing the same thing, just in reverse?
Even if I did misunderstand the cause of death of Officer Sicknick (I did not) the way it was reported was that he was beaten by far right evil Trump supporting nazis. More left media lies. Don't even pretend to be truthful. Get it out there, even if not true and the chances a whole lot of people will believe if to be true because they do not really make an effort to retract their mistakes do they? Mission accomplished.
Correction. I thought member TMB was talking about Islamic terrorist group not Nation of Islam. My edit function expired.
But my question to TMB stands. Would you be just as offended and outraged if the Nation of Islam was the ones storming the capital? Or nah. They are POC and we all know that POC are not capable of instructions because of power or something.
10 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:In your opinion they did nothing...that's the right wing narrative.
So you don't know about the republicans like MO Brooks or Jim Jordan or Marjorie Taylor Greene who've blown smoke about what happened? Or maybe this guy who thought that the images of the riot looked like an orderly tour. His name is Andrew Clyde and he's also from Georgia, like MTG.
There are other congressional cheerleaders like, Cruz or Hawley, are you familiar with their response or remarks about January 6? The Senate is slowly considering ethics breaches for them because of their roles in perpetuating the lies about election integrity that Trump spread to motivate that mob.
Your characterization of BLM is a product of extreme right wing rhetoric. Since you don't live in the USA your opinion of BLM protests and intentions is second and third hand...you only know what the media you consume tells you and reinforces in regular content. You've been led to believe that January 6 was no big deal.
We know what media people consume when they share links. We know the quality of the media content that others consume by considering what they know and share about a topic or by the accuracy of their opinion on a subject. You characterize my discussion of media accuracy and bias as me "insulting" your media. That's an odd choice of words. I cannot imagine why you would be insulted by discovering that there is a tool available which examines and compares media outlets in areas of accuracy and political bias. It's a good tool.
No. Any believe that a particular person with a certain skin color is either inheritley racist or of a skin color that absolves them from being racist is flawed. Anything that uses skin color to deflect or assign guilt by virtue of skin color is flawed and racist.
Your opinion of BLM Inc. is a result of your far left leaning media. And the self described Marxist that heads the BLM movement, who evidently secretly l9ves capitalism. . In which I speculate you agree with. Especially subscribing to a radical far left ideology that excludes one race of racism while asigning racism to another all by virtue of skin color and not by their actions or beliefs. . Then claims to be anti racist. Loooool
I'm still waiting for that systemic racist law, policy etc. that happens in current society example I ask for.
I wasn't insulted by any tool. I thanked you for the link to the tool you use.
Anyway. I guess we'll see from thus Jan.6 committed which is completely not partial with no bias at all. Russian collision comes to mind.
QuoteAli Alexander, the conservative activist behind the "Stop the Steal" movement, recently told congressional investigators that he had communicated with several House Republican lawmakers ahead of the Jan. 6 rally and Capitol riot, along with at least one member of the Trump family's inner circle.
QuoteAccording to the complaint, Alexander testified to the committee on Dec. 9 that he "had a few phone conversations" with Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., potentially texted Rep. Mo Brooks, R-Ala., and spoke in person to Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz.
QuoteAlexander also spoke over the phone with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Donald Trump Jr.'s partner and a Trump campaign fundraiser, and told investigators it was a "short and pleasant" conversation about the Georgia Senate runoffs and GOP primaries in 2022, according to the complaint.
This seems pretty suspicious, that a private citizen the ability to text congress persons. How did he get their numbers? When I reach out to my reps, I either get a recording, or I can send an email.
22 hours ago, Cclm said:The fact that you associate the American flag with that of a flag of a foreign terrorist group being on the same level speaks for itself.
Question is, would you be just as discusted at Islamic terrorist flag on Jan.6 then you are about the American flag being there?
The fact that you want to ignore that the confederate flag was proudly paraded through the Capitol building speaks for itself.
Question, why do you believe that the confederate flag is the American flag? The flag of secessionists is more acceptable to you than other flags?
22 hours ago, Cclm said:Even if I did misunderstand the cause of death of Officer Sicknick (I did not) the way it was reported was that he was beaten by far right evil Trump supporting nazis. More left media lies. Don't even pretend to be truthful. Get it out there, even if not true and the chances a whole lot of people will believe if to be true because they do not really make an effort to retract their mistakes do they? Mission accomplished.
Can you please link to the reporting that said someone was beaten by far right "evil Trump supporting nazis"? I'm quite certain that if someone wants to go searching in podcasts and opinion shows for inflammatory left wing rhetoric they'll find it. But that's not where most of us form our opinions...out in the fringes and wild places of the digital world.
There's a Congressional inquiry into the events of January 6, 2020. Do you believe that such an investigation is necessary? Do you believe that there is any larger significance to what occurred that day than a simple protest turned violent?
1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:Can you please link to the reporting that said someone was beaten by far right "evil Trump supporting nazis"? ...
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While they didn't include "evil" and "nazi," the New York Times reported that Officer Sicknick died as a result of injuries sustained; apparently based on information released by the U. S. Capital Police.
QuoteA United States Capitol Police officer died on Thursday night from injuries sustained “while physically engaging” with pro-Trump rioters who descended on the U.S. Capitol the day before, the fifth fatality linked to the chaos that engulfed the nation’s capital on Wednesday, according to the authorities.
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During Mr. Trump's second impeachment, the Democratic House Managers also stated the Office Sicknick had been killed by the rioters.
ETA: While neither "evil" nor "nazi" where included in any of the articles I've seen, we should remember that these terms have been used by some on the left, including this site, to describe Mr. Trump's supporters.
2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:The fact that you want to ignore that the confederate flag was proudly paraded through the Capitol building speaks for itself.
Question, why do you believe that the confederate flag is the American flag? The flag of secessionists is more acceptable to you than other flags?
I didn't. I thought you were referring to the American Flag. There was a Canadian flag there as well. No. I do not particularly that that secession flag. Group of losers.
1 hour ago, chare said:While they didn't include "evil" and "nazi," the New York Times reported that Officer Sicknick died as a result of injuries sustained; apparently based on information released by the U. S. Capital Police.
During Mr. Trump's second impeachment, the Democratic House Managers also stated the Office Sicknick had been killed by the rioters.
ETA: While neither "evil" nor "nazi" where included in any of the articles I've seen, we should remember that these terms have been used by some on the left, including this site, to describe Mr. Trump's supporters.
Yes! I have! A few times!! I was being hyperbolic none the less the terms have been thrown around which actually is an insult to the victims of these disgusting humans. However, Trump pr his supporters do not deserve that title regardless if anyone likes them or not.
2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:Can you please link to the reporting that said someone was beaten by far right "evil Trump supporting nazis"? I'm quite certain that if someone wants to go searching in podcasts and opinion shows for inflammatory left wing rhetoric they'll find it. But that's not where most of us form our opinions...out in the fringes and wild places of the digital world.
There's a Congressional inquiry into the events of January 6, 2020. Do you believe that such an investigation is necessary? Do you believe that there is any larger significance to what occurred that day than a simple protest turned violent?
Yes. I'm glad there is an inquiry into it. No. I think a bunch of dumb people got all worked up and did a horrible thing. Do I think It was some super covert mission to overthrow the US government?Or Trump's evil plan? Bahahaha. NO.
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The fact that you associate the American flag with that of a flag of a foreign terrorist group being on the same level speaks for itself.
Question is, would you be just as discusted at Islamic terrorist flag on Jan.6 then you are about the American flag being there?