Is it wrong to ask for a raise?

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Specializes in Rehab/Nurse Manager. Has 6 years experience.

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Today, I found out that when my co-manager steps down in December, his replacement will only be working Monday through Thursdays. This means that every single Friday,  I will have up to 56 patients. If we get admits, I'll be the one constantly staying late. I will be responsible for all staffing issues and filling in for call-ins. It also means I can't ever take a Friday off or have a 3 day weekend because this other person will be gone.  I have received no pay increase for 2 years. Would it be wrong to ask for a raise, given the additional responsibilities and less flexibility in my scheduling? 

hppygr8ful, ASN, RN, EMT-I

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life). Has 19 years experience.

1 hour ago, SilverBells said:

Today, I found out that when my co-manager steps down in December, his replacement will only be working Monday through Thursdays. This means that every single Friday,  I will have up to 56 patients. If we get admits, I'll be the one constantly staying late. I will be responsible for all staffing issues and filling in for call-ins. It also means I can't ever take a Friday off or have a 3 day weekend because this other person will be gone.  I have received no pay increase for 2 years. Would it be wrong to ask for a raise, given the additional responsibilities and less flexibility in my scheduling? 

I still don’t know why your staff RN aren’t doing admissions.I’ve never met a manager that puts in as much overtime as you do.

NightNerd, MSN, RN

Specializes in CMSRN, hospice. Has 7 years experience.

1) Are those changed requirements real, or is this what you are anticipating?

2) If you ask for a raise and are denied, what's your next move?

SilverBells, BSN

Specializes in Rehab/Nurse Manager. Has 6 years experience.

13 hours ago, NightNerd said:

1) Are those changed requirements real, or is this what you are anticipating?

2) If you ask for a raise and are denied, what's your next move?

1. Changes are real.  My new colleague will only be there Monday through Thursdays.  They'll still need a manager on Fridays, so obviously if she is gone, I can't be.  Therefore,  I can't have any Fridays off.  I'll have all 56 patients because there's no one else

2.  I have no idea what a backup plan would be.  I was just wondering if asking for a raise was reasonable or totally out of the ballpark 

NightNerd, MSN, RN

Specializes in CMSRN, hospice. Has 7 years experience.

10 hours ago, SilverBells said:

1. Changes are real.  My new colleague will only be there Monday through Thursdays.  They'll still need a manager on Fridays, so obviously if she is gone, I can't be.  Therefore,  I can't have any Fridays off.  I'll have all 56 patients because there's no one else

2.  I have no idea what a backup plan would be.  I was just wondering if asking for a raise was reasonable or totally out of the ballpark 

1) What happens on weekends or holidays when management traditionally isn't in the building? That is what would have to happen on Fridays if you wanted to take one off. That is why I'm asking if these are real or anticipated changes; it is not reasonable or realistic for them to never give you another Friday off as long as you work there. If you quit tomorrow, do you think they would ever fill that position again if that was part of the requirements?

2) The reason I ask what you would do if you ask for a raise and are denied is this: if you're going not planning to change anything based on whether you get the raise, then why ask at all? I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for a raise (AFTER confirming these expectations, because they aren't realistic, in my opinion); however, if you're going to stay even if you don't get what you ask for, why bother?

hppygr8ful, ASN, RN, EMT-I

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life). Has 19 years experience.

I concur with @NightNerd . You have to have a plan for what to if they don't give you that raise. Are you prepared to walk? I ask this because you appear to be in a toxic situation and as a Master's prepared nurse, you are marketable. Find a place that value's your education. I could see you in a research position which, Maybe help with drug studies.

Hppy

klone, MSN, RN

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership. Has 15 years experience.

What do you mean, you will have all 56 patients? Are you the only licensed nurse there on Fridays? 

What happens on Saturdays and Sundays? 

Hoosier_RN, MSN

Specializes in dialysis. Has 28 years experience.

1 hour ago, klone said:

What do you mean, you will have all 56 patients? Are you the only licensed nurse there on Fridays? 

What happens on Saturdays and Sundays? 

I'm wondering where are the DON and ADON? Other licensed nurses? I mean, c'mon, she is not the only licensed entity in that building! What happens if she has an emergency, like hospitalization or death in the family, and she has to be off on Friday? Sounds like her management team has set itself up for failure as well. @SilverBellsyou need to start using your thinking cap, instead of letting your employer use you!

hppygr8ful, ASN, RN, EMT-I

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life). Has 19 years experience.

7 hours ago, Hoosier_RN said:

I'm wondering where are the DON and ADON? Other licensed nurses? I mean, c'mon, she is not the only licensed entity in that building! What happens if she has an emergency, like hospitalization or death in the family, and she has to be off on Friday? Sounds like her management team has set itself up for failure as well. @SilverBellsyou need to start using your thinking cap, instead of letting your employer use you!

You haven’t been around Long enough to fully appreciate the lengths the OP goes to garner sympathy and attention. Of course there are staff nurses on duty. Silver bells  is a manager but has never been able to explain why she does not trust staff nurses to do their jobs.

CrunchRN, ADN, RN

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health. Has 25 years experience.

Why wouldn't you just let them know that is not acceptable to you and that you will be moving on if no solution is found? Being direct and professional often works. Jobs abound. Move on if needed.

SilverBells, BSN

Specializes in Rehab/Nurse Manager. Has 6 years experience.

11 hours ago, klone said:

What do you mean, you will have all 56 patients? Are you the only licensed nurse there on Fridays? 

What happens on Saturdays and Sundays? 

No.  There will licensed nurses for medications and treatments. However,  I will be responsible for all emergencies, all provider visits, all Care Conferences, all discharges, assisting in all admissions, follow up with all complaints and fill in as a floor nurse for all call ins.  This is an expectation of the position.  While the DON is around, it is expected I will do as much as I can on my own.  As for weekends, there are supervisors who have the same duties minus admissions.  

I skipped the OP, as well as all the replies.  Gonna answer based on the thread title.

No.