back in february, the pre-nursing students were sent a notification whether they were accepted into the nursing program or not. 80-90 students were accepted (i don't remember the exact number) and i was one of them. the majority of my 'friends' that were up for evaluation with me were rejected from the program. (you'll see soon why this is important.) after students had been rejected, there were roughly 30-40 students who complained, cried, and ******* to the dean of nursing that they did not deserve to be rejected from the program. i completely understand the whirlwind of emotions that comes with a rejection letter, so in a way i do understand their response, however, they handled it immaturely. one girl even went as far as bringing her mother in to talk to the dean of nursing for her.
now, last week 30-40 students received letters from the dean of nursing saying that they now had been accepted into the program. the president of the school did not like the complaints being filed against the school, so he pretty much made it so anyone that met the criteria, and complained against the school for rejection was now to be in the program. all of these students, including my friends, are super happy and i am happy for them by all means. however, in my opinion this is not fair. would you agree? i mean, you get rejected and it sucks, but you only get in because you file complaints against the school? how can you look yourself in the mirror and truly think i deserved this letter?
some of the students that have now been accepted into the program include those with a 2.8 gpa, and teas scores way below what should be acceptable. i have a meeting with the dean of nursing this week, and i just feel like i have been slapped in the face. my meeting is mostly to get this off my chest. i know nothing can be done, and i don't want anyone to lose their chance. maybe i shouldn't have tried as hard as i have to get in if all i had to do was complain about it. i have a 3.9 gpa, every science class i have taken i have earned an 'a,' and my teas scores were high 80s-90s. i'm not the only student that is extremely upset with the circumstances and now all my friends are mad at me because i disagree with the way they got into the program (this is why my earlier statement is important).
now, last week 30-40 students received letters from the dean of nursing saying that they now had been accepted into the program.
do you agree? is this fair? what would you do?
schools usually accept all the students they can. usually the school resources are the limiter when accepting students. as long as they have the resources (and accreditation) they need, they can accept all they want.
*Smirk* I used to toss my 5th place ribbons for Gymnastics....Ithought...who cares about 5th freakin place??? I didn't do well enough for at least 3rd so forget it and keep trying.
Life isn't fair honey. Drop it. Do your best. Let Nature take its course....because it will.
lol, I remember I kept my 8th place ribbon for swimming just because it was a pretty pink rosette. Sad that they would make the losing ribbons prettier than the winning ones.
You say the RNs at your job told you to go through with meeting the Dean. I'm an RN and I'm telling you don't do it. If you have a problem that begins the day of school until the day you graduate THEN go to the Dean. He/She does not want a students "opinion" on admissions decisions even though I see how you feel it is unfair. I am glad you have a 3.9 GPA and As in all your science courses. I know that is a major part of acceptance. I beg you to not become that classmate who always lets it be known what their stats were. In nursing school people will run from you really quick.
Back to the topic. DON'T DO IT! Focus on your studies and excelling CLINICALLY. Those accepted students do not determine who you are. My posts are sounding a bit harsh today :)... I swear I had a great day at work
As much as I want to join your optimism, I highly doubt that was the case. I'm afraid that decision was due to the overwhelming responses to declines. I remember one day I went to go see my advisors and I saw a bunch of students crying after the letters were sent out, I can't imagine what its like to these advisors to have to "comfort" all those students because they didn't make the cut.
As much as I want to join your optimism, I highly doubt that was the case. I'm afraid that decision was due to the overwhelming responses to declines. I remember one day I went to go see my advisors and I saw a bunch of students crying after the letters were sent out, I can't imagine what its like to these advisors to have to "comfort" all those students because they didn't make the cut.
Most comments are made by Generation X people (AKA Baby boomers) regarding Generation Y.
However, if Generation X raised Generation Y to have 8th place ribbons, passing grades for everyone regardless of abilities, provided lax parenting etc etc...
Who is more responsible for the final outcome?
For the record, as a Generation Y-er, I am disgusted by spoiled, entitled attitudes regardless of generation, and there is no reason for it at all.
I certainly wasn't raised that way
Sorry, but you are wrong....Baby boomers (~1945 to early 1960s) did NOT raise Gen Y...we raised the parents of Gen Y (Gen X). We must not have contributed much to their "self esteem" because Gen X obviously wanted to make sure that their children never heard "no" or "second place."
Back in the 80's, I had a classmate (age 41!) who had her father call the Catholic nun who ran the program...he wanted special lab times for his daughter. I invite you to imagine how that conversation ended!
It's not particularly fair. But neither is life. And definitely NOT nursing school. The latter two you will rapidly get used to.
IMO, worry about yourself and your own performance. Those whose entrance into nursing school was shall we say, questionable, now have to actually complete nursing school. They will soon learn that the stunts that worked with Admissions to get into the program are not going to fly with nursing instructors when they're failing out.
Sorry, but you are wrong....Baby boomers (early 1960s through the early 1980s) did NOT raise Gen Y...we raised the parents of Gen Y (Gen X). We must not have contributed much to their "self esteem" because Gen X obviously wanted to make sure that their children never heard "no" or "second place."
Back in the 80's, I had a classmate (age 41!) who had her father call the Catholic nun who ran the program...he wanted special lab times for his daughter. I invite you to imagine how that conversation ended!
Baby boomers were NOT born in the early 1960's -early 1980's. But your post is a little confusing, so I'm not sure what you are saying with your "early 1960's through early 1980's" reference.
A baby boomer is a person who was born during the demographic Post-World War II baby boom between the years 1946 and 1964, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.
I am at the end of the Baby Boomers, and it is indeed my generation who have raised the current generation of college students. I have pondered this question many times-my generation was NOT raised with the whole "prize for participating" mantra, my generation was held accountable for their own behavior, my generation generally worked for their cars, their clothes, etc. My generation would not have protested our rejection from nursing school for a 2.8 GPA; NO entitlement allowed, and our own parents were not "helicopters," yet many of us have raised our kids the exact opposite from the way we were raised. I cannot explain it, and believe me, I've thought about this a lot.
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I think the consensus on Baby Boomers = 1945-1964.
Not to belabor the issue too much, OP, but meeting with the Dean would be counter-productive. For better or worse, your school doesn't run a tight ship as far as standards. They accepted the students you feel are under-qualified. That is a harbinger of more issues down the road. Look at that as a really big arrow in your quiver used right off the bat that could give them the impression you are a malcontent if you should request to meet with him or her again. You might need it later for something that will affect you far more than this - since it doesn't directly affect your admission status.
Do not complain to your Dean about this. They will more than likely tell you that this is a good real life experince for you and you will be on their radar throughout the whole program. I am in nursing school now and we are not all buddy-buddy with each other. Trust me there will be cliques and there will be cattiness and all that other crap.
We can get along most of the time but that doesn't mean that we all like each other. The instructors and the Dean know this from the start so they don't worry too much at all about wether or not some students may be resentful of other students or if all the students get along. Sorry to say that it just doesn't work that way so complaining will do no good only harm.
it's remotely possible that the nursing dean has been pressing the college for more spots and faculty, and all these (perhaps marginal) squeaky wheels were just what s/he needed to get them. they will collect those tuitions, not a piddling point in this day and age ; if those students are unable to keep up with the program, they still paid. you might benefit as the faculty:student ratio changes, too. and if you are smart you will keep all if this to yourself.
OP: Unless you are the Dean's kid or spouse, then I doubt you know all the facts as to why additional students were accepted.
Despite what you think you may know, I would zip my lips, do my work, don't be bitter, and be the most helpful and kindest nursing student in your class.
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schools usually accept all the students they can. usually the school resources are the limiter when accepting students. as long as they have the resources (and accreditation) they need, they can accept all they want.
is your school accredited?
if so, then stop your whining.