Is the concept of respect dead?

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Wondering if anyone else is seeing this. We were talking about sending kids home on another thread. I've had more than a few who march into the office demanding care. I make them stop and say hello and tell me their name if I don't know them. Then those who have already decided they are going home launch into academy award winning performances on the phone with their parents and then when they encounter resistance actually start bullying the parents. Screaming, crying, hanging up, calling 10 times. We are talking 4th grade. What is up with the disrespect?? Anybody else have similar stories?

bad parenting and parents wanting to be the friend. They don't want to be the one to upset their precious child so they want us to do it. sorry I gave birth to three sons...this one is yours..

I will say this, if a child cusses at their parent while in my office, I give a detention, even if parent says, "its okay, she is just upset", I don't care..do it at home, not in school and here is your detention.

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Well do many of the schools nowadays pride themselves in developing "questioning minds".

In my experience that is code for children who lack discipline.

Not when it's done right.

Most of what you're seeing is bad parenting. The breakdown of the family has consequences, but as I've been repeatedly told, that's none of my business. (Picture Kermit with his teacup here.)

If a kid has been to my office multiple times and is insistent on wanting to go home, I will allow them to call their parents. I always tell them "The rules for using my phone are that you can call home and tell mom or dad what you are feeling. You need to say that you don't have a fever and you CANNOT say 'I want to go home' or 'come get me' or anything that means those words. Once mom or dad make a decision, that decision is final and there is no arguing."

If the parents ask to speak with me, I tell them the facts only.

I get SO annoyed when students walk in and just state their complaint. *PUSH DOOR OPEN* "headache" and look at me. Grrrr....

I ask those kids if they walk into their classrooms and say "knowledge!" or into their house and say "Dinner! Shelter! Unconditional love!" since those are the things they get there. :sarcastic:

I get SO annoyed when students walk in and just state their complaint. *PUSH DOOR OPEN* "headache" and look at me. Grrrr....

I ask those kids if they walk into their classrooms and say "knowledge!" or into their house and say "Dinner! Shelter! Unconditional love!" since those are the things they get there. :sarcastic:

Wait...so they want you to GIVE them a headache?

Wait...so they want you to GIVE them a headache?

Touche. :) More along the lines of stating the reason they came to my office. I guess the equivalent would be bursting into the classroom and saying "Knowledge deficient" :)

I live in an apartment building with disrespectful neighbor children. They run up and down the tiled hallways yelling and screaming and riding bicycles with training wheels as well as those plastic bikes. One girl screams like a little banshee being tortured by all the contents of hell itself. The disgusting thing about all of this is that not only does the apartment manager refuse to deal with tenant behavior, the father of some of the kids is right out there running up and down the hallways with his kids! I confronted him the other day and all he did was grin at me. When I went back inside my apartment, he had his boy run his bike back and forth in front of my apartment door some more. When the father of the children acts worse than the children, you can't expect any respectful behavior from the children. And I am forced to live with this.

I live in an apartment building with disrespectful neighbor children. They run up and down the tiled hallways yelling and screaming and riding bicycles with training wheels as well as those plastic bikes. One girl screams like a little banshee being tortured by all the contents of hell itself. The disgusting thing about all of this is that not only does the apartment manager refuse to deal with tenant behavior, the father of some of the kids is right out there running up and down the hallways with his kids! I confronted him the other day and all he did was grin at me. When I went back inside my apartment, he had his boy run his bike back and forth in front of my apartment door some more. When the father of the children acts worse than the children, you can't expect any respectful behavior from the children. And I an forced to live with this.

Wait until the little darlings settle down for nap and then throw a party.

I'll bring the chips and salsa.

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I, too, like many of you on this thread, have make a student re-enter my office properly when they barge in. I also tell student my desk in my personal space and to be so close to it, you need to be invited. Luckily, I actually don't deal with the issue much as discipline and respect is part of the charter school culture and I am very proud of how respectful most of the students I work with are. I am allowed to give a student a detention for certain behaviors like cursing, extreme disrespect, and use of a cellphone without permission.

That being said, I am aware I can see students at their worst, physical and emotional. And sometimes, I also see them at their pretend/perceived worst :). When I call a parent for an insistent student (usually after they have managed to see 2-3 times before lunch) that I feel should not go home, I talk to the parent first, rely my objective findings and end it with "I have no medical reason to dismiss your child, but wanted to allow them to check in with you briefly." Student hears the whole spiel. 9.5/10 parent agrees, and once they hear from the parent, it is cemented.

That 0.5/10...well those are the parents I can dread calling in the first place.

And. they. are. going. to. be. taking. care. of. US. someday! Eeeeek! :cautious: :nono:

I have found a blog by Tim Elmore. This is the link to his website. He has amazing in sight with dealing with todays youth/raising leaders. Leadership Development Program | Habitudes® | Growing Leaders . He writes some great stuff. I frequently share his e-mailed blogs with my Principals and Counselors.

And. they. are. going. to. be. taking. care. of. US. someday! Eeeeek! :cautious: :nono:

If I may...The Breakfast Club:

Richard Vernon: You think about this: when you get old, these kids - when *I* get old - they're going to be running the country.

Carl: Yeah.

Richard Vernon: Now this is the thought that wakes me up in the middle of the night. That when I get older, these kids are going to take care of me.

Carl: I wouldn't count on it.

*curtsies*

And. they. are. going. to. be. taking. care. of. US. someday! Eeeeek! :cautious: :nono:

I try to think of it more as, "And once upon a time, WE were as bad as THEM!" :yeah:

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