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the charlotte observer

pentagon plans draft of medics

selective service wants doctors, nurses ready in event of worst case crisis

mark libbon

newhouse news service

washington - the pentagon is firming up a plan to draft thousands of doctors, nurses and other health-care specialists in the event of a worst-case crisis.

the selective service system is dusting off its plan for a "health care personnel delivery system," which has been on the shelf since congress authorized it in 1987 to cope with military casualties from a large-scale biological or chemical attack.

at the pentagon's direction, the agency also is examining whether that plan for a "special skills" draft could be adapted to address critical shortages that might arise for military linguists, computer experts or engineers.

"we're going to elevate that kind of draft to be a priority," lewis brodsky, acting director of selective service, says.

the plan would be needed if an attack on u.s. troops overwhelmed the capabilities of the military to care for its wounded.

the president would issue a proclamation ordering an estimated 3.5 million health-care workers to register for a draft within 13 days. congress would quickly enact legislation authorizing the draft for health-care workers 20 to 44. for the first time, a draft would include women.

the pentagon would tell selective service how many people it needed in each of 62 specialties. a separate draft lottery would be held for each of those needs.

for example, if 300 orthopedic surgeons were required, selective service would choose birthdays in a random lottery and order those dates from 1 to 365. notices would go out to the surgeons, starting with the first birthday drawn, until 300 had been called.

the pentagon expects that within several months of the crisis, selective service could deliver surgeons, nurses, dentists, x-ray technicians, etc. -- up to an estimated 80,000 in all -- through the military entrance processing command.

the plan isn't very well-known within the medical community.

"if you were to ask 10 doctors, maybe one might have heard something about it," said dr. marybeth mccall, chief medical officer at crouse hospital in syracuse, n.y., and an air force veteran.

mccall said she was confident that health professionals would volunteer their services in the event of a large-scale emergency, much as they did during operation desert storm and the sept. 11 attacks.

"i would say it would be ill-advised to force a draft," she said. "health-care personnel commit to a life of service. we're going to take care of patients wherever they happen to be."

congress ordered up the plan in the late 1980s, thinking more about cold war dangers than about an iraqi dictator who might unleash weapons of mass destruction against u.s. troops. pentagon officials say they see no need for a conventional draft of young men to be soldiers.

brodsky said the plan has moved to the front burner because of recent signals from the pentagon and conversations with military leaders.

selective service maintains 2,000 active draft boards around the country that would handle appeals for exemptions, deferments and postponements.

members of those draft boards can expect to be trained in the near future on a special "essentiality" exemption that health-care workers might seek, flahavan said. a doctor might be able to show, for example, that he or she is essential to a community and should not be drafted.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

It's no worse than we do to 18 year old males.

In the unlikely event something like that would happen they would be overwhelmed with volunteers anyway. (In another nine months I'll be too old for that draft as well.)

Specializes in Hospice, Critical Care.

I had not heard of this either. But it is notable that is not NEW; the idea was conceived in 1987.

I'd certainly hope that it would not come to selective service. I'd know I'd WANT to volunteer. In reality, I'd probably be scared stupid. My prayers are for resolution and protection in these terrible times.

And Tweety, I got you beat....I'll be too old in six months.

Specializes in med/surg, cardiac/telemetry, hospice.
Originally posted by sjoe

AH writes: "I'd rather make that decision for myself, than have Big Brother propel me at gunpoint."

Of course you would "rather" do that. The very reason to have a draft in the first place! [/b]

Really? I for one do NOT support slavery of any kind, including that which is government sanctioned. The Draft is Constitutionally ILLEGAL...we are supposed to have a military based on VOLUNTEERS.

And, I take exception to your assumption that I would "rather," insinuating that I "wouldn't." As I mentioned earlier, in case you missed it, I was prepared to go to NYC but was TOLD to stay home. If there were a situation in which I could help, I would be there...But under duress??

Yes, the article is somewhat dated, and the plan is old, but the pertinent question is: Has any of you heard of it before? I know I hadn't. Why not? Between my husband and myself we keep pretty well abreast of current policy, it surprised me to find this.

And, with government policy the way it is, who knows what would be considered an "overwhelming" situation. For what it's worth, it scares me to think of it.

The article is incorrect in saying that this is the first time that a draft would include women. In 1945, a bill passed both the House and Senate authorizing a draft for female nurses. Yes, little known to all except history buffs like me, but President Roosevelt spoke about it in his state of the union address in 1945. And then the bill was written up and passed. The only thing which prevented nurses from being drafted was Germany's surrender in April 1945.

So this has happened before, folks. But then, WW II was on a scale far greater than anything experienced before or since. There were millions of wounded. The military was overwhelmed, even with its massive campaigns to train nurses.:cool:

Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV.

As I would fail the Physical, I should not worry.

But it should be covered in Nursing school or licensure that the government can/may do this in time of crisis. They did at my school.

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

Being as my husband is currently on active duty and I did 10 years of active duty service myself, (plus 3 years on inactive ready reserve duty), I had my bags packed a total of 13 years. So I would fight being drafted myself tooth and nail. I have a family to take care of and no one else to do so in the event my husband and I were BOTH deployed . That was why I seperated in the first place. I DID MY TIME, my husband is doing his; I believe it's time for someone else to do theirs.:rolleyes:

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.

For the first time I'm actually glad I'm turning 45 soon......Seriously, this was the first I'd heard of such a contingency plan, and though I personally would never pass the physical, I can't even imagine being forced to go through it in the first place. I'm not going to lose any sleep over this one, folks, even though Dubya is doing his damndest to use the military every possible place he can. Of course, World War III isn't just an abstract concept with a president who deliberately pisses off other countries' leaders, but if it ever came to that I'd probably volunteer in some capacity anyway, if only to help care for those injured on the front lines. I may not like or approve of the current leadership, but I love my country......enough to give her my 17-year-old daughter, who's in a delayed-entry program which will enable her to graduate from high school before going on active duty in the Army next summer. I actually had to sign a piece of paper allowing her to enlist, and believe me, it was one of the hardest things I've ever done. I prayed I was doing the right thing. And yes, I admit praying for a "regime change" to take place here at home before her career as a soldier begins in earnest. Even before the lies about WMD were exposed, I believed the Iraq war was more about revenge than anything else, and nothing that's happened since it supposedly ended has changed my mind about Bush OR his war. Now, having withdrawn his sword from one enemy, he looks to plunge it into the heart of yet another foreign "oppressor". My question is, is there anyone out there who can rescue us from HIM?

I can't go into the service. I'm afraid of needles.

Oh, I can give them til the cows come home but I sure do hate to be on the recieving end.

I thought the war was over. Whats all this talk anyway?

-Russell

Specializes in MS Home Health.

Shoot. I missed the age part. Sorry.

renerian

Too old to go! This is the government we are talking about, they can change to age limit anytime they want. Glad I could not pass a physical. Will be doing my part here at home for several more years, God willing.

Specializes in Community Health Nurse.
Originally posted by jemb

The article said only health care workers between ages 20 and 44.

WHEW!!! Thank you Lord! I am safe at last!!! :rotfl: :D

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

rofl

they can always slip the age requirements to suit needs, folks. unless you have health reasons that would disqualify you, you are not guaranteed safe. I worked with reservists well in their 50s during Gulf War I.

The U.S. Gov't reserves the right to screw us anyhow they see fit.

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