Immigration News and Updates

suzanne4, RN · May 14, 2007

You said it in correct way...All issues has got correct places...that should be the way....Not blaming foreign nurses with questions 'y r u coming to my country'....such style of answering is not good for a sup moderator..
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Michael Moore is an American. You are complaining about how we do things here continuously. If you do not like it, you do not have to come. Simple as that.

caroladybelle, BSN, RN · May 14, 2007

Michael Moore is an American. You are complaining about how we do things here continuously. If you do not like it, you do not have to come. Simple as that.

Agree with this.

I wish that some of the regular posters would look beyond their own needs and desires to the world and the situation at large.

At my current assignment, there is quite a bit of hostility to foreign nurses, coming from patients. Many of the patients complain about inability to understand them or be understood by them. They also are aggravated about some of the sociopolitical issues of legal/illegal immigration in general. Plus they get a much more extensive orientation than other staff, and since they are contract, often do not get low censused as often. This can cause irritation w/regular staff.

Many nurses here are aware that there is no real nursing shortage, that there are more than enough nurses in the USA to fill the shortage, if employers would offer batter conditions or wages. They are also aware that there are THOUSANDS of prospective USA nurses being turned away from schools, due to lack of class spaces. We have a public that wants their health care workers to speak clear English and do not see the need for so many immigrant healthcare workers. They also read in the papers everyday about problems of legal/illegal immigration.

Their priorities for the politicians THAT THEY ELECT to office will be on correcting conditions that keep US nurses from working, and keep students from the US from getting the education that they need. Not to mention security. And while many of the immigrants are law abiding, many citizens think that at this juncture, more regulation/restriction on immigrants is needed.

If politicians go against this, they face being voted out of office.

If you do not recognize this, you will have a hard time dealing with your US coworkers when you get here.

I am impressed with what immigrant nurses are trying to do - as a traveler, I have a hard enough time going from place to place. But you also have to understand that you are burdening a system that is dealing unprecedented security issues.

And as to what M.Moore has to do with the conversation, I have no clue. He lives here because he is an American. He can also speak against US policies as he is an American and has lived under them for a long time. As a note, his life has been seriously affected by lack of restrictions on using foreign labor in producing US products. His town, Flint, Michigan has been seriously hurt financially by big corporations exporting jobs to take advantage of cheaper foreign labor, that they do not have to treat as well as US labor. He is a supporter of the American worker and unions.

He also has issues with some of the preferential treatment accorded to Saudi nationals that were friends of GWB, in the aftermath of 9/11.

You might want to pick an example that is more in line with your cause.

deensy · May 14, 2007

Agree with this.
I wish that some of the regular posters would look beyond their own needs and desires to the world and the situation at large.
At my current assignment, there is quite a bit of hostility to foreign nurses, coming from patients. Many of the patients complain about inability to understand them or be understood by them. They also are aggravated about some of the sociopolitical issues of legal/illegal immigration in general. Plus they get a much more extensive orientation than other staff, and since they are contract, often do not get low censused as often. This can cause irritation w/regular staff.
Many nurses here are aware that there is no real nursing shortage, that there are more than enough nurses in the USA to fill the shortage, if employers would offer batter conditions or wages. They are also aware that there are THOUSANDS of prospective USA nurses being turned away from schools, due to lack of class spaces. We have a public that wants their health care workers to speak clear English and do not see the need for so many immigrant healthcare workers. They also read in the papers everyday about problems of legal/illegal immigration.
Their priorities for the politicians THAT THEY ELECT to office will be on correcting conditions that keep US nurses from working, and keep students from the US from getting the education that they need. Not to mention security. And while many of the immigrants are law abiding, many citizens think that at this juncture, more regulation/restriction on immigrants is needed.
If politicians go against this, they face being voted out of office.
If you do not recognize this, you will have a hard time dealing with your US coworkers when you get here.
I am impressed with what immigrant nurses are trying to do - as a traveler, I have a hard enough time going from place to place. But you also have to understand that you are burdening a system that is dealing unprecedented security issues.
And as to what M.Moore has to do with the conversation, I have no clue. He lives here because he is an American. He can also speak against US policies as he is an American and has lived under them for a long time. As a note, his life has been seriously affected by lack of restrictions on using foreign labor in producing US products. His town, Flint, Michigan has been seriously hurt financially by big corporations exporting jobs to take advantage of cheaper foreign labor, that they do not have to treat as well as US labor. He is a supporter of the American worker and unions.
He also has issues with some of the preferential treatment accorded to Saudi nationals that were friends of GWB, in the aftermath of 9/11.
You might want to pick an example that is more in line with your cause.

You sound like a bully!!!

caroladybelle, BSN, RN · May 14, 2007

You sound like a bully!!!

In what way?

There is nothing bullying about my post. I stated no personal opinions that are derogatory. I do not treat my fellow nurses, native bourne or not , badly.

I am merely stating the current conditions and situations here.

If you do not like that patients prefer to speak to nurses they understand, and Americans in general prefer to have their politicians support other Americans working, that is your problem. I am relating to you what I have to hear every day. Please refer to the OP/ED page of most US newspapers for confirmation of these issues.

You do not have to like that many US citizens prefer for their politicians to SERVE their interests, not outside ones...but they are the ones that vote for them. Or vote them out.

If one cannot understand that, one will have problems here. Most countries do (or should ) take care of the issues of the country first.

I regret you find that idea upsetting . It is stating the issues surrounding this. You do not have to like it , but in no place, did I "bully" anyone.

deensy · May 14, 2007

In what way?
There is nothing bullying about my post. I stated no personal opinions that are derogatory. I do not treat my fellow nurses, native bourne or not , badly.
I am merely stating the current conditions and situations here.
If you do not like that patients prefer to speak to nurses they understand, and Americans in general prefer to have their politicians support other Americans working, that is your problem. I am relating to you what I have to hear every day. Please refer to the OP/ED page of most US newspapers for confirmation of these issues.
You do not have to like that many US citizens prefer for their politicians to SERVE their interests, not outside ones...but they are the ones that vote for them. Or vote them out.
If one cannot understand that, one will have problems here. Most countries do (or should ) take care of the issues of the country first.
I regret you find that idea upsetting . It is stating the issues surrounding this. You do not have to like it , but in no place, did I "bully" anyone.

Sorry if I have offended you,but its just the way you came across very forcefull!!

Yes as my Dad is a us citizen I realise that citizens do prefer for thier politicians to serve their interests and so as it should be!!!

lawrence01 · May 15, 2007

"D-Day" for CIR

Wednesday is a key day in the CIR negotiations

Wednesday is a key day in the CIR negotiations. Sen. Majority Leader Reid has announced that if the Senate cannot reach a compromise by Wednesday he will reintroduce S.2611, the 2006 bill that was passed by the Senate in May. Sen. Reid is apparently using the threat of reintroducing S.2611 as a means to get both Democrats and Republicans to finish their work on CIR.

As Politico.com put it, “With senators negotiating behind closed doors, those outside have been left to interpret body language and public statements for clues on lawmakers' progress.”

Sources:

http://www.hammondlawgroup.blogspot.com/

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0507/3991.html

tantaritas · May 15, 2007

june visa bulitin? out already....

comments pls.....:monkeydance:

Silverdragon102, BSN · May 15, 2007

june visa bulitin? out already....
comments pls.....:monkeydance:

already a thread commenting on June visa, date has moved forward dramatically except for those from China India and Mexico. All depends on when your PD is

suzanne4, RN · May 16, 2007

The Visa Bulletin actually comes out on the 10th of the month preceding. So June was issued on May 10th.

lawrence01 · May 16, 2007

voting delayed once again and tentatively set for monday

voting for cir is tentatively re-set for monday next week as a result of news of a possible bipartisan breakthrough deal surfaced. one senator even hinted that the deal has an 80/20 chance of being passed.

- lawrence01

bipartisan deal on immigration is near

by julie hirschfeld davis

the associated press

tuesday, may 15, 2007; 9:24 pm

washington -- republicans and democrats were nearing a deal tuesday on a sweeping immigration overhaul that would give millions of illegal immigrants a chance at legal status but strictly limit future arrivals from staying in the u.s.

senators and white house officials negotiating through the afternoon and into the evening said an elusive compromise was in sight. with details changing rapidly, it was unclear whether the talks would result in a breakthrough or a meltdown.

eighty-twenty!" said an upbeat sen. lindsey graham, r-s.c., one of the key players in the talks, giving strong odds of a deal he said could be announced as early as wednesday.

in a hopeful sign for a potential deal, senate majority leader harry reid, d-nev., postponed until monday a vote that had been scheduled for wednesday on bringing up an immigration measure that passed the senate last year.

delaying it gave the weeks-long set of closed-door bipartisan talks slated to continue early wednesday more time.

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lawrence01 · May 16, 2007

lawmakers close in on immigration overhaul

by donna smith and richard cowan | may 15, 2007

washington (reuters) - a bipartisan group of lawmakers negotiating a broad immigration overhaul are close to a deal that would legalize the status of millions of illegal immigrants and put them on a path to citizenship, lawmakers and congressional aides said on tuesday.

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two leading senators, democrat edward kennedy of massachusetts and republican arlen specter of pennsylvania, said substantial progress had been made.

kennedy spokeswoman laura capps said a deal was not in hand on tuesday evening and negotiations would resume on wednesday.

senators said the talks had made progress and negotiators hoped to strike a deal before a crucial senate vote on immigration that is likely on monday.

"it looks like there is a good chance (of an agreement) but it is not there yet," said sen. charles schumer, a new york democrat.

aides said the group had agreed on major portions of the bill including provisions that would legalize the status of an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants and put them on a path to citizenship after paying a fine and meeting other requirements. but lawmakers cautioned that a number of important details, such as the ability to bring family into the country, remain unsettled.

senate majority leader harry reid, a nevada democrat, said negotiators had made "some accomplishments" but were "a day or two short" of a final agreement.

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tutugirlBSN · May 16, 2007

I hope something positive comes out of this. I still have my fingers crossed.