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does IL recognize deaconess grads?

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Hi everyone! I am an LPN in IL, i know that my state does not recognize Excelsior degrees......but do they consider deaconess? the program sounds awesome. thanks for any info you can provide! :rolleyes:

Hi everyone! I am an LPN in IL, i know that my state does not recognize excelsior degrees......but do they consider deaconess? the program sounds awesome. thanks for any info you can provide! :rolleyes:

Hi! I was told that they are recognized in every state except New York and California.

Kelly:)

mona b RN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Child/Adolescent Mental Health.

Hi! I was told that they are recognized in every state except New York and California.

Kelly:)

I seem to remember a post about this before. I am not sure if Deaconess is recognized in NY or not. I really don't know why they wouldn't recognize DCN.

Jo Dirt

Has 9 years experience.

Hi everyone! I am an LPN in IL, i know that my state does not recognize excelsior degrees......but do they consider deaconess? the program sounds awesome. thanks for any info you can provide! :rolleyes:

You can read your state BON's website and see that the statement you made is not entirely true. IL will accept Excelsior graduates from other states who have 2+ yrs. of expericence.

Excelsior is accepted in every state in the country except California.

I don't know why DCN sounds so awesome. I wasn't impressed when I was shopping around for a distance learning program. For one thing, the program is longer than EC, and for another the cost is absolutely outrageous. I don't understand why people will balk at $1500 for the CPNE (maybe $3000 if you fail once and have to retake it) but then think they are getting a good deal paying over $400 a semester hour to go through Deaconess? :uhoh3:

You can read your state BON's website and see that the statement you made is not entirely true. IL will accept Excelsior graduates from other states who have 2+ yrs. of expericence.

Excelsior is accepted in every state in the country except California.

I don't know why DCN sounds so awesome. I wasn't impressed when I was shopping around for a distance learning program. For one thing, the program is longer than EC, and for another the cost is absolutely outrageous. I don't understand why people will balk at $1500 for the CPNE (maybe $3000 if you fail once and have to retake it) but then think they are getting a good deal paying over $400 a semester hour to go through Deaconess? :uhoh3:

Since I do not have any clinical experience I was told by EC that their program wasn't an option for me. So this pretty much just left Deaconess as the best alternate choice. Also another plus for me is that since I live in St. Louis the clinical evaluations would be very easy for me to get to. I am not sure why others have choosen DCN over EC, it would be interesting to hear what others have to say.:)

Here we go again! :uhoh3:

Yup, you said it...

Ok. Deaconess is an NLN-accredited program that has clinical experience concurrent with theory. It is, therefore, acceptable for initial licensure by the California BRN.

Hi! I was told that they are recognized in every state except New York and California.

Kelly:)

Kelly,

Did Deaconess or the NY and CA Boards confirm this? I had not heard this before...Anyone with specifics please advise...

Thanks!

Cheri

Yup, you said it...

Ok. Deaconess is an NLN-accredited program that has clinical experience concurrent with theory. It is, therefore, acceptable for initial licensure by the California BRN.

deej,

This is my understanding as well...I plan to do some travel nursing later on and don't want to be limited from going anywhere.

Thanks

Cheri

I don't know why DCN sounds so awesome. I wasn't impressed when I was shopping around for a distance learning program. For one thing, the program is longer than EC, and for another the cost is absolutely outrageous. I don't understand why people will balk at $1500 for the CPNE (maybe $3000 if you fail once and have to retake it) but then think they are getting a good deal paying over $400 a semester hour to go through Deaconess? :uhoh3:

Please try to refrain from posting information that is not helpful. The two programs Excelsior and Deaconess are NOT the same programs which is why they are different in length and admission requirements. Furthermore one is self taught the other is school taught.

We get it, you don't care for Deaconess.

Opal

Jo Dirt

Has 9 years experience.

Yup, you said it...

Ok. Deaconess is an NLN-accredited program that has clinical experience concurrent with theory. It is, therefore, acceptable for initial licensure by the California BRN.

So like, wow man...dig...I have been accepted into a *real* program that is supposed to be really far out and solid and right on (Baptist School of Nursing in Arkansas starts january 3) but I thought I would do the Excelsior thing because it would be more convenient than going to class...I don't even have any desire to visit California much less work there but like, I want to know what you think, would you choose the real program over Excelsior? Which way would you go?

Jo Dirt

Has 9 years experience.

We get it, you don't care for Deaconess.

Opal

Just thought I'd mention it in case anyone didn't know. :coollook:

So like, wow man...dig...I have been accepted into a *real* program that is supposed to be really far out and solid and right on (Baptist School of Nursing in Arkansas starts january 3) but I thought I would do the Excelsior thing because it would be more convenient than going to class...I don't even have any desire to visit California much less work there but like, I want to know what you think, would you choose the real program over Excelsior? Which way would you go?

I'm not sure where the "wow man, dig" comes into play, but in any event...

If I could have found a B&M (brick and mortar) RN program that would work around a Kelly schedule (in my case, rotating 48 hour shifts - 2 on, 4 off), and wouldn't require me to take (or retake) two years of prerequisites, I would have chosen that over a DL program.

If I had to choose between EC and DCN, with all else being equal, I would have chosen DCN. However, given time and financial constraints, EC was my best choice. If I had the money (cash-in-hand - no more debt for me, thanks) and the time, I'd have given DCN some serious thought.

Regardless of any desire to visit/work in California, something to consider when choosing a DL program would be future acceptance in OTHER states. Pick the states in which you might like to work in the future, and make sure that whichever DL program you choose is likely to continue to be accepted there. In the case of California, the anti-EC rumblings were around long enough to give people plenty of time to enroll while they still could.

kelly,

did deaconess or the ny and ca boards confirm this? i had not heard this before...anyone with specifics please advise...

thanks!

cheri

cheri,

i just spoke with scott ragsdale in admissions at dcn and asked him to explain exactly the situation. if a student is living in new york or california the dcn program is not an option for them because dcn can not get any preceptors in those states. the reason for this is the liability and insurance issues. apparently, the nurse preceptor would be putting her license in jeopardy if any incident was to take place. however, a student who is a graduate of the dcn program and later decides to go to either of these states to work can be licensed. the bon of ny and ca does not have any problem with the program or its graduates. scott also wanted me to understand that when you graduate from the dcn online program your diploma says "graduate of deaconess college of nursing" not "graduate of deaconess college of nursing online". i hope that this helps.

kelly:)

mona b RN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Child/Adolescent Mental Health.

cheri,

i just spoke with scott ragsdale in admissions at dcn and asked him to explain exactly the situation. if a student is living in new york or california the dcn program is not an option for them because dcn can not get any preceptors in those states. the reason for this is the liability and insurance issues. apparently, the nurse preceptor would be putting her license in jeopardy if any incident was to take place. however, a student who is a graduate of the dcn program and later decides to go to either of these states to work can be licensed. the bon of ny and ca does not have any problem with the program or its graduates. scott also wanted me to understand that when you graduate from the dcn online program your diploma says "graduate of deaconess college of nursing" not "graduate of deaconess college of nursing online". i hope that this helps.

kelly:)

ahhh..now it makes sense. it's the preceptorship that they have a problem with. i still don't get it though because one of the largest independent learning nursing programs in the nation is based in ny.

thanks for the info.

Ahhh..now it makes sense. It's the preceptorship that they have a problem with. I still don't get it though because one of the largest independent learning nursing programs in the nation is based in NY.

Thanks for the info.

That's kind of odd, because DCN is owned by Tenet, and Tenet owns hospitals in CA (I don't know about NY.) But it doesn't really surprise me, unfortunately.

Of course, if a CA resident was truly motivated to attend DCN, Oregon/Nevada/Arizona are fairly short drives considering the limited amount of clinical time. I gather the same could be said for NY residents and NJ, CT, etc.

Sorry guys, I forgot to mention one thing. The information that got from Scott Ragsdale applies only to the ADN program not the RN to BSN program. So if you are in NY and CA you can do that program online with DCN.

Kelly:)

i just spoke with scott ragsdale in admissions at dcn and asked him to explain exactly the situation. if a student is living in new york or california the dcn program is not an option for them because dcn can not get any preceptors in those states. the reason for this is the liability and insurance issues. apparently, the nurse preceptor would be putting her license in jeopardy if any incident was to take place. however, a student who is a graduate of the dcn program and later decides to go to either of these states to work can be licensed. the bon of ny and ca does not have any problem with the program or its graduates. scott also wanted me to understand that when you graduate from the dcn online program your diploma says "graduate of deaconess college of nursing" not "graduate of deaconess college of nursing online". i hope that this helps.

kelly,

thanks for this info...very helpful!

cheri

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