Nurse Julie Griffin was fired for standing up for what she thought was the right thing.
At Westside Regional Medical Center in Plantation, Florida, ICU nurse Julie Griffin worked in the 12 bed cardiovascular ICU (CVICU.) Until she was fired for refusing to take a third patient.
Westside Regional Medical Center is part of HCA Healthcare. HCA Healthcare is the largest for-profit hospital chain in the U.S., owning over 150 hospitals, and earning over 47 billion in 2018.
One of Julie's concerns for patient safety was that the in-room monitors provided for a split screen display. This allows for an ICU nurse to be in one of her patient's rooms, set the monitor for a 2-view display, and be able to monitor her second patient. The problem? It does not allow for a 3-way display. If the ICU nurse has 3 patients, one of those patients will not be monitored.
In an interview with Hospital Watchdog, Julie Griffin explained that there is a standing order for all ICU patients to receive continuous monitoring, and nurses must electronically attest to the fact that the standard of care was met. HCA CVICU does not staff a qualified monitor tech at the nurses station where the central bank of patient monitors display. If all the nurses are away from the station providing patient care and an unmonitored patient goes into a lethal rhythm, there is no one to see it. An alarm would sound, but there are constant alarms in CVICU that compete for a nurse's attention. Alarms cannot be relied upon as a substitute for a nurse.
Hospital Watchdog reports that 2 such unmonitored patients have died. Allegedly, one of the patients was discovered dead and may have been dead for up to 30 minutes. A family member went out to the nurses station to report that something was wrong.
In the other case, allegedly the nurse was assigned 3 patients, was able to monitor only 2 of them, and the 3rd patient died of pulmonary problems, possible a pulmonary embolism (PE).
Hospital Watchdog qualifies the above cases saying they are not substantiated with medical records or other documentation, they are reported by nurse Julie Griffin in an interview.
Julie says all of her colleagues shared her concern about patient safety and lack of monitoring, but they were afraid to speak up. They needed to keep their jobs in order to support their families. Julie, previously in the Navy, believed in following the chain-of-command. She reported unsafe patient conditions to her charge nurses and manager. She believed that if corporate only knew about the practice, they would want to do the right thing and rectify the situation.
Instead of rectifying the situation, nurses were frequently required to take 3, and sometimes 4, patients in the CVICU. Julie claims that untrained nurses were assigned ICU patients.
Julie trusted there would not be retaliation if she complained. There was. Julie claims her Director intimidated her and at one point frightened Julie by getting physically close. Julie's schedule was changed to working every weekend. She felt harassed.
Even the HR department at Westside acknowledged that the Director's actions were inappropriate. Even so, Julie was removed from duty within hours the day she refused to take a third patient.
On the day she was terminated, Julie had 2 patients. One patient had orders for transfer out to the floor. One of the patients was a post-op open heart surgery, and was on a diuretic. Julie knew that a patient on a diuretic often has to urinate urgently, and was concerned that she needed to respond right away to make sure he didn't fall.
Julie refused to accept the assignment of a 3rd patient. At 1700, The CVICU Director came to the unit and told Julie she had to take the 3rd patient. She again refused, was placed on investigative leave, and terminated 2 weeks later, in 2017. Julie had worked in HCA ICU since July 2016.
Julie later filed 2 Florida Whistle-Blower complaints in 2018, and has filed a suit against HCA for unlawful termination.
Julie's Director says that Julie was a disruptive staff member.
Julie says that the standard of care required by HCA called for continuous monitoring of her patients, and she was unwilling to violate that standard.
Should Julie have gone with the status quo and quietly accepted a 3rd patient, knowing that at least 1 of her patients was lower acuity? Or did she do the right thing?
Is her reputation so damaged that she will have difficulty securing employment? Was she acting on principle or imminent patient endangerment?
Does she have any chance of prevailing against HCA?
Many of us have been in similar situations. What would you have done?
Nurse Beth,
Author, "Your Last Nursing Class: How to Land Your First Nursing Job"...and your next!
10 minutes ago, JKL33 said:And don't think for a minute that in some places everyone is not very well aware that those orders are not to be entered until the bed is ready and the patient is ready to roll out.
ETA: Expected to not be entered, I should say.
I have worked at a place where we were asked not to enter or time change of status orders until after midnight. I sent my manager an e-mail asking if the phone number I had for reporting medicare fraud was still correct. Shortly after that we were told to make sure we enter and time change of status orders for when they are actually written.
13 minutes ago, JKL33 said:And don't think for a minute that in some places everyone is not very well aware that those orders are not to be entered until the bed is ready and the patient is ready to roll out.
ETA: Expected to not be entered, I should say.
Did you mean providers should only write downgrade out of ICU orders when there is a bed available? That is not very practical and is not in line with how hospitals work.
11 minutes ago, juan de la cruz said:Did you mean providers should only write downgrade out of ICU orders when there is a bed available? That is not very practical and is not in line with how hospitals work.
Yeah, it certainly involves some games of telephone. Luckily there are plenty of people around who aren't busy caring for patients. I'm not making it up, I promise you. Apparently Muno has also been somewhere that they came up with the idea of trying to make sure the orders went in with what was considered to be the most advantageous timing.
6 minutes ago, JKL33 said:Yeah, it certainly involves some games of telephone. Luckily there are plenty of people around who aren't busy caring for patients. I'm not making it up, I promise you. Apparently Muno has also been somewhere that they came up with the idea of trying to make sure the orders went in at the last possible/feasible minute.
LOL, I'm sure there are some "gaming" going on. I work for a state hospital in a university campus. We write orders as soon as possible to get patients out...but that's also because we are trying to decongest the ED of critically-ill patients and trying to make room for transfers from facilities as far as the Oregon border. All the while making sure we have staff in order to be compliant with the mandated California staffing ratio. We sometimes run into bottleneck when the floors are full so patients do stay over 24 hrs with transfer orders. The transfer patient sometimes have to wait to get to our tertiary referral center or gets rerouted somewhere else.
1 hour ago, MunoRN said:The billing and standard of care applies to the ordered level of care for the patient, not the physical location.
Right, but I’m going under the assumption that patients in the ICU have ICU level care ordered (with the exception of those who have been downgraded and are awaiting a bed in stepdown). I was specifically addressing someone’s point about why the big deal that the patient ratios in ICU are being exceeded, since they do it all the time in the ED.
Not to toot California's own horn but our law states that ER patients who are deemed critically-ill must have 1:2 staffing ratio. The rest of the ratios for specific units are seen here: https://www.cga.ct.gov/2004/rpt/2004-R-0212.htm
16 hours ago, MSO4foru said:In my little place of employment as part of large hospital system,recently bought by large for profit system we are pretty well continually short staffed.
And yet places like this are reeling in 47 Billion dollars every year.
Sorry, but there's absolutely no excuse for short staffing, or ridiculous staffing ratios. None whatsoever.
Quite frankly, the paying customers of this healthcare service should be pissed because they are getting ripped off, and short changed because they are not getting the healthcare services they are clearly paying high dollar insurance premiums for.
I agree. I understand why short staffing occurs. It's because of mismanagement and shortsighted financial planning. In the long run it creates high turnover, a hostile work environment and major patient safety concerns. It is definitely the job of a good nurse to refuse the assignment and resign if necessary. A company that supports management decisions that create those issues shouldn't keep operating that way.
On 8/5/2019 at 1:37 PM, Crash_Cart said:And here's another example of the difference between the Navy and a private, for profit corporation.
Whenever there's profits involved, there's clearly a financial incentive to engage in unsafe practices. You see it occurring everywhere
This is also true for all hospitals including ------>>>> non -profit vocational..etc,this is everywhere,do more,take more patients.
Monitors can be set to monitor two on the screen or ALL ,patients will alarming vs pops up on screen over riding the rest.That is a lot of alarms if set to ALL if you have 15 patients on monitors, plus some extra rooms not even connected to group screen and there is NEVER a trained tech just sitting in front the floor screen to view and alert staff.
We all have to work to keep a roof over our heads,keep our children fed,so many sadly bow their tired heads and suck it up.
3 hours ago, juan de la cruz said:Not to toot California's own horn but our law states that ER patients who are deemed critically-ill must have 1:2 staffing ratio. The rest of the ratios for specific units are seen here:
Who enforces the LAW,who reports when it is not being followed ,??
Who decides which one is "critical"? If Cali divorce laws are any example you can keep your "ratios".
JKL33
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And don't think for a minute that in some places everyone is not very well aware that those orders are not to be entered until the bed is ready and the patient is ready to roll out.
ETA: Expected to not be entered, I should say.