ICU Nurse Fired For Refusing 3rd Patient

Nurse Julie Griffin was fired for standing up for what she thought was the right thing. Nurses General Nursing News

At Westside Regional Medical Center in Plantation, Florida, ICU nurse Julie Griffin worked in the 12 bed cardiovascular ICU (CVICU.) Until she was fired for refusing to take a third patient.

Westside Regional Medical Center is part of HCA Healthcare. HCA Healthcare is the largest for-profit hospital chain in the U.S., owning over 150 hospitals, and earning over 47 billion in 2018.

Unmonitored Patients

One of Julie's concerns for patient safety was that the in-room monitors provided for a split screen display. This allows for an ICU nurse to be in one of her patient's rooms, set the monitor for a 2-view display, and be able to monitor her second patient. The problem? It does not allow for a 3-way display. If the ICU nurse has 3 patients, one of those patients will not be monitored.

In an interview with Hospital Watchdog, Julie Griffin explained that there is a standing order for all ICU patients to receive continuous monitoring, and nurses must electronically attest to the fact that the standard of care was met. HCA CVICU does not staff a qualified monitor tech at the nurses station where the central bank of patient monitors display. If all the nurses are away from the station providing patient care and an unmonitored patient goes into a lethal rhythm, there is no one to see it. An alarm would sound, but there are constant alarms in CVICU that compete for a nurse's attention. Alarms cannot be relied upon as a substitute for a nurse.

Hospital Watchdog reports that 2 such unmonitored patients have died. Allegedly, one of the patients was discovered dead and may have been dead for up to 30 minutes. A family member went out to the nurses station to report that something was wrong.

In the other case, allegedly the nurse was assigned 3 patients, was able to monitor only 2 of them, and the 3rd patient died of pulmonary problems, possible a pulmonary embolism (PE).

Hospital Watchdog qualifies the above cases saying they are not substantiated with medical records or other documentation, they are reported by nurse Julie Griffin in an interview.

Whistle-Blower

Julie says all of her colleagues shared her concern about patient safety and lack of monitoring, but they were afraid to speak up. They needed to keep their jobs in order to support their families. Julie, previously in the Navy, believed in following the chain-of-command. She reported unsafe patient conditions to her charge nurses and manager. She believed that if corporate only knew about the practice, they would want to do the right thing and rectify the situation.

Instead of rectifying the situation, nurses were frequently required to take 3, and sometimes 4, patients in the CVICU. Julie claims that untrained nurses were assigned ICU patients.

Julie trusted there would not be retaliation if she complained. There was. Julie claims her Director intimidated her and at one point frightened Julie by getting physically close. Julie's schedule was changed to working every weekend. She felt harassed.

Even the HR department at Westside acknowledged that the Director's actions were inappropriate. Even so, Julie was removed from duty within hours the day she refused to take a third patient.

On the day she was terminated, Julie had 2 patients. One patient had orders for transfer out to the floor. One of the patients was a post-op open heart surgery, and was on a diuretic. Julie knew that a patient on a diuretic often has to urinate urgently, and was concerned that she needed to respond right away to make sure he didn't fall.

Julie refused to accept the assignment of a 3rd patient. At 1700, The CVICU Director came to the unit and told Julie she had to take the 3rd patient. She again refused, was placed on investigative leave, and terminated 2 weeks later, in 2017. Julie had worked in HCA ICU since July 2016.

Julie later filed 2 Florida Whistle-Blower complaints in 2018, and has filed a suit against HCA for unlawful termination.

Julie's Director says that Julie was a disruptive staff member.

Julie says that the standard of care required by HCA called for continuous monitoring of her patients, and she was unwilling to violate that standard.

Right or Wrong?

Should Julie have gone with the status quo and quietly accepted a 3rd patient, knowing that at least 1 of her patients was lower acuity? Or did she do the right thing?

Is her reputation so damaged that she will have difficulty securing employment? Was she acting on principle or imminent patient endangerment?

Does she have any chance of prevailing against HCA?

Many of us have been in similar situations. What would you have done?

Nurse Beth,

Author, "Your Last Nursing Class: How to Land Your First Nursing Job"...and your next!

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
6 hours ago, juan de la cruz said:

That would be my legal recourse in that situation and I would encourage my co-workers to do the same if they want to keep both their jobs and their licenses. I also agree with a collective voice and teamwork, we can accomplish more. I agree with putting a spotlight on the unsafe practice by reaching out to the media if that's what it takes but I would never put my license or livelihood at risk.

When you can get fired for even whispering the word "union" and everyone refuses to speak up for fear of losing their jobs, there will never be a collective voice. That's why individual nurses such as this one have to occasionally square their shoulders and go out on a limb. And be second-guessed by those of us who weren't even there.

Specializes in ACNP-BC, Adult Critical Care, Cardiology.
10 minutes ago, TriciaJ said:

When you can get fired for even whispering the word "union" and everyone refuses to speak up for fear of losing their jobs, there will never be a collective voice. That's why individual nurses such as this one have to occasionally square their shoulders and go out on a limb. And be second-guessed by those of us who weren't even there.

Collective voice does not have to be union. ADO's are protected by the law. If multiple nurses are sending ADO's to management, they have legal ground against retaliation. Even if union is attempted, that's never something openly discussed.

Specializes in Hospice Home Care and Inpatient.

I don't know what ADO means. In my little place of employment as part of large hospital system,recently bought by large for profit system we are pretty well continually short staffed. There are many posts on this forum re short staffing- this is going to be the new norm unless nurses say enough. Unfortunately that will wreck havoc among pts and their caregivers. Many moons ago I was told to " never say that we are short staffed"- I am finding my qualms about stating such greatly reduced as now am often having 2-3 pts above 'ratio' of 6:1. I think if the general public knew what was happening in terms of nursing ratios, wheels of change would speed above slow crrrreeeaaakk

I'd be interested in the actual acuity of these patients.

The one that was "on a diuretic", was this a high dose constant bumex drip? In any case the dosage wasn't high enough nor the patient critical enough to mention need for pressors that would actually make the patient ICU status.

Peeing the bed simply isn't a reason to say "I can't fluff and tuck another patient immediately prior to shift change". Not that shift change admissions are convenient, but for the patient means much more comfort and care than can be afforded in an ER gurney.

Complaining of being "tripled" with step down patients is honestly offensive and just lazy practice. Yes 6+ step down patients is too much, but not being able to handle three is just pansy sauce.

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.
4 hours ago, MSO4foru said:

I don't know what ADO means.

Assignment Despite Objection

In a union facility, it’s a formal process that requires an investigation into the situation (after the fact) and review by hospital leadership and the union representative.

In a facility that’s not unionized, I don’t know how much teeth it has.

Specializes in ER.

I work in an ER and have only worked Med surge for a year at the beginning of my career, 0 ICU experience, I would hope that the people judging this poor RN have actually worked in an ICU. I personally worked for Plantation General hospital, which is the sister facility for Westside, also owned by HCA, and in the ER it was this bad before I left. J-loops ran out so we were told to just hub with picc line caps that were not in the picc packet. OK, then we ran out of those, so we were told to hub the IV with a 3ml syringe, so we resourceful ER RN's...began to open those really expensive picc line kits and taking the caps and tossing the kits. This went on for two days before they decided to order us more J-loops. HCA is a disgusting hospital system, Julie if your reading this... getting fired sucks, but count your blessings.

Now the one part I don't understand is why floor RN's are all bugged out about acuity and ratios. In the ER we are 5-1 regardless of acuity. I routinely have 3 ICU level patients on drips even sedated and vented. Plus my other 2 patients which are ESI 3's. 4 and 5 ESI the main ER never sees. Now granted I am not caring for this patient for 12 hours but when we have holds, we don't get floor ratios so please help this ER RN understand what is the big deal.

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.

The big deal is there is a minimum standard of care in the ICU - if a hospital is billing for ICU level service, they damn well better be providing it. That service includes an established nurse:patient ratio.

Specializes in ER.

Well granted for billing purposes sure, that's like a hospital system in SW Florida is currently being sued for billions because they were billing inpatient when the patient was a hold in an ER bed. I am not that familiar with billing etc, however I was told by a colleague in accounting that they cannot bill inpatient if they are an ER hold and physically in the ER.

I think this is a lesson learned for everyone, don't hang yourself out on a limb cause when you look around you will be only one there and there will only be one rope. Your coworkers are just that, coworkers, they will not ever back you if there is a risk of losing their job, family first.

It sucks for Julie but based on my own personal experiences I would have kept my mouth shut, taken the patient and kept on paying my mortgage. Ill let someone else be the hero.....

Specializes in Cardiology.
6 hours ago, MSO4foru said:

I don't know what ADO means. In my little place of employment as part of large hospital system,recently bought by large for profit system we are pretty well continually short staffed. There are many posts on this forum re short staffing- this is going to be the new norm unless nurses say enough. Unfortunately that will wreck havoc among pts and their caregivers. Many moons ago I was told to " never say that we are short staffed"- I am finding my qualms about stating such greatly reduced as now am often having 2-3 pts above 'ratio' of 6:1. I think if the general public knew what was happening in terms of nursing ratios, wheels of change would speed above slow crrrreeeaaakk

While I never go out of my way to talk about staffing with patients if they ask if we are short staffed I always tell them the truth. Im not going to lie because upper management says to.

4 hours ago, eacue said:

In the ER we are 5-1 regardless of acuity. I routinely have 3 ICU level patients on drips even sedated and vented. Plus my other 2 patients which are ESI 3's. 4 and 5 ESI the main ER never sees. Now granted I am not caring for this patient for 12 hours but when we have holds, we don't get floor ratios so please help this ER RN understand what is the big deal.

A separate thing that is also wrong doesn't make the first thing right. Or "two wrongs don't make a right" as our elders used to say.

Your ER-"ICU" patients are officially admitted and are being billed for ICU care. And they are supposedly getting it from someone whose real job is to help sort through people as quickly as humanly possible to see if anyone else is sick, and is most assuredly not providing them with ICU-level care (of no fault of that nurse's own). That is not serving that ICU patient well, nor the next sick ED patient who has not had the benefit of having already been evaluated!

Specializes in 8 years Telemetry/Med Surg, 5 years Stepdown/PCU.

She stood up for herself! Go Julie because they will continue to do it, and nothing will change until we start calling them out!

Specializes in ACNP-BC, Adult Critical Care, Cardiology.
8 hours ago, klone said:

Assignment Despite Objection

In a union facility, it’s a formal process that requires an investigation into the situation (after the fact) and review by hospital leadership and the union representative.

In a facility that’s not unionized, I don’t know how much teeth it has.

It probably doesn't have the same teeth as you said in a hospital run by HCA or a state like Florida. However, it is a good way to protect you if you want to keep your job by accepting an unsafe assignment and bad things happened while you were taking care of your patients. It can be used as evidence in court as a sworn statement by the nurse of his or her concerns and management's knowledge of that concern.

We all know how easy it is to throw a nurse under the bus for every bad thing that can happen to a patient. On the other hand, refusing an assignment in a hospital run by a Fortune 500 Corporation like HCA who has the backing of expensive lawyers is an easy way to lose your job. That's my take on it and I could be wrong but I also tend to be practical and don't want to be unable to pay a mortgage or provide for my family.