Just a head's up to prospective students. For years I coldn't wait to start the BCC program. Now I am not even finished with my nursing course and have had it out with my instructor/dept head and I am already looking into possibly transferring to Ocean County College. On top of th workload we have already, they expect us to test on math conversions, vitals, and med administration. Which is all fine and good but THEY DO NOT COUNT for any credit but we must still pass them or fail. We also had to do a one page paper wth citations which counted for zerfo credit. It only takes away from our study time. The math test, we get three attempts and MUST PASS WITH A 90 OR BETTER or we get kicked out. I failed my second attempt today with an 80. Years of hard work, time, sacrifice, frustration, all nighters, etc....to possibly have it allwhiped out by not getting a 90 or better on a test in which we don't even get any credit for. Are you serious? My email to my instructor today was not pretty and this week should a flirtatious dance with expulsion for calling out the college on their practice and politics. So in case anyone wanted any first hand feedback on BCC, there you have it.
Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
The math test, we get three attempts and MUST PASS WITH A 90 OR BETTER or we get kicked out.
When I was a nursing student, we had three attempts to pass with a score of 100 percent on the medication math test or be forced to withdraw from the program.
This rule is intended to prepare you for the real world of nursing, where an error in medication math or erroneous dosage calculation could kill a patient.
I have not failed this course. Not yet anyway. But being I can't put time into studying for the credit portion right now, who knows if I will since I have three tests ahead of me to study for that don't count for credit. I could care less about telling my instructor the truth of the situation. They need to hear it. At the end of the day, these non credit bs tests benefit them and the college in some way shape or form at the expense of the performance of the students.
Oh my, you are deeper in denial than I initially assumed. You really need a Come To Jesus moment in your attitude toward nursing school. You have some serious knowledge deficits with regard to what is and is not required to graduate from nursing school, let alone be equipped to pass NCLEX.
I currently go to brookdale now (Im in Nurs 161 so 1 class ahead of you) and let me tell you, it only gets harder. Nursing 160 was NOTHING compared to what we're doing now. We had around 6-7 "test outs" this semester, instead of the 2-3 you have now, that count as a pass/fail. We had another math test that had more new math in it (And im sorry to say, but if you cant pass the 160 math test which was literally D/H times V than youre in for a rude surprise). And on top of that we start clinicals, so imagine 9 hours out of your week being spent in a nursing home/hospital, and youre graded on a pass/fail basis. Oh and dont think that you just go to the clinical sites, have fun, chat with your patients for a bit and leave. There are MULTIPLE pass/fail assignments for clinical.. About 3 projects/ papers.. A documentation assignment each week that can take up to 1 -2 hours. And guess what? NONE of it is for credit. Good luck to you tho.
"... I am already looking into possibly transferring to Ocean County College(...)The math test, we get three attempts and MUST PASS WITH A 90 OR BETTER or we get kicked out. I failed my second attempt today with an 80. Years of hard work, time, sacrifice, frustration, all nighters, etc....to possibly have it allwhiped out..."
I attended OCC's nursing program last year. I believe that Ocean County College gives you TWO tries at the math exams, and you must pass the second try at 90% or you're out. (I'm trusting my memory somewhat here. I know the 90% figure is correct.)
One of my current classmates was dismissed from the OCC program for failing her last math quiz.
I was dismissed from OCC for failing a basic clinical skill my first semester. Getting into the RN program was the relatively easy part.
I am currently enrolled in an LPN program.
I have a BS in an unrelated field and I have strong testing skills; however, the RN program was a most humbling experience. LPN studies are just as intense, but perhaps more structured.
I am new to posting at allnurses, but I really couldn't bypass this discussion without commenting.
Regarding the math test, at my school, we had 3 attempts and had to get a 100% to pass. I think 2 or 3 of my classmates didn't, and had to complete clinical a semester later. They all graduated, just a semester later than the rest of us. It's for patient safety, and it's just part of nursing school. Welcome to nursing...
Specializes in Palliative, Onc, Med-Surg, Home Hospice.
I have not failed this course. Not yet anyway. But being I can't put time into studying for the credit portion right now, who knows if I will since I have three tests ahead of me to study for that don't count for credit. I could care less about telling my instructor the truth of the situation. They need to hear it. At the end of the day, these non credit bs tests benefit them and the college in some way shape or form at the expense of the performance of the students.
Actually, those "bs non credit tests" benefit your future patient. And you. I am rather bothered that you don't think this is important. Don't for one second think you won't do math once you graduate because if you give a med that was miscalculated by the pharmacy, you will be held accountable. If you give a med based on an inaccurate pulse rate, YOU will be held accountable.
I currently go to brookdale now (Im in Nurs 161 so 1 class ahead of you) and let me tell you, it only gets harder. Nursing 160 was NOTHING compared to what we're doing now. We had around 6-7 "test outs" this semester, instead of the 2-3 you have now, that count as a pass/fail. We had another math test that had more new math in it (And im sorry to say, but if you cant pass the 160 math test which was literally D/H times V than youre in for a rude surprise). And on top of that we start clinicals, so imagine 9 hours out of your week being spent in a nursing home/hospital, and youre graded on a pass/fail basis. Oh and dont think that you just go to the clinical sites, have fun, chat with your patients for a bit and leave. There are MULTIPLE pass/fail assignments for clinical.. About 3 projects/ papers.. A documentation assignment each week that can take up to 1 -2 hours. And guess what? NONE of it is for credit. Good luck to you tho.
OP, please take note. You are in nursing school, real world. You must adapt. Or not.
The math test, we get three attempts and MUST PASS WITH A 90 OR BETTER or we get kicked out. I failed my second attempt today with an 80.
I require my students to do this "without credit" and without a calculator. If they cannot do simple algebra, then they should not be in the nursing program. I have 2 children in college, I hope for their sake they are not emailing their professors the way you did.
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This rule is intended to prepare you for the real world of nursing, where an error in medication math or erroneous dosage calculation could kill a patient.