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Okay, PLEASE, PLEASE let me preface this by saying this. I screwed up. I majorly, royally screwed up. I got caught doing something I was probably, seriously not supposed to be doing, and during the week that &*%$@! Joint Commission was visiting no less... I screwed up. People do things they shouldn't do; people screw up. I seem to do this a LOT.
Having said that... I feel like I was just set up. I feel like someone really wants rid of me where I work, and I feel like I have been set up. There is absolutely NO WAY this happened the way my manager said that it did. Absolutely no way. I mean, I have been racking my brain here.
Okay... I worked last night, 7p to 7a. In the mornings between 5-7 am, we have to do a med pass. We don't have med carts; all of our patients' meds are in three different Omnicells on our unit, and sometimes it takes a fair amount of time to pass all the meds plus give IV meds, shots of Lovenox, take patients to the bathroom/clean them up while you're in the room... etc..... So, a good majority of us pull our meds beforehand; ie before we even start the med pass. We don't OPEN the packages and put the pills in cups or anything; we just pull the pills, vials of medication, ALL in their original packages labeled and all, and put them in ziploc baggies with the room numbers labeled on the baggies. If I had a med cart (which would be nice), I'd put the pills, unopened and labeled, in the patients' drawers. But we don't have med carts on my unit. Anyway, so this is what some of us do. I always try and make sure I've got the pills in a secure place after I pull them and put them in the baggies; I don't just leave them out on an open counter where anyone can just walk by, see them, and take them.
So, this morning I gave all of my patients their meds. Rushing to get done in time to give report, as usual, but I gave all the meds. I **KNOW** I did. Furthermore, I **KNOW** that I did not go and pull anyone's meds out of the omnicell a second time. Number one, there is no way I had TIME to do this. Number two... I'm often pretty tired in the mornings but not THAT tired. Usually that time of the morning, I'm actually rather jazzed up and alert. It's the hours of 2, 3 AM that usually really get to me!!!
I got a call just a little while ago from the clinical manager. Apparently, a nursing student found a couple of ziploc baggies this morning with meds all in them. I was totally and completely shocked when she told me this; there is ABSOLUTELY no way that this could have happened... if so, it had to have been baggies of meds that someone from two mornings ago left laying around. IT WAS NOT ME. I GAVE THESE MEDS. Well, it is pretty well impossible that they could have been from a couple of mornings ago, unless they were found in the patients' room (the two patients' meds in question are two elderly ladies sharing the same room). The reason for that is that that place has been cleaning from top to bottom in preparation for Joint Commission.
The only other scenarios are a) I DID "double pull" the meds from the Omnicell; I actually forgot that I had already pulled these patients' meds and I pulled them again; thusly leaving the ones that I did actually pull lying somewhere... major OOPS. Or b) Someone found the baggies, empty, came to the conclusion somehow that they were mine and that I had used them in the manner that I did use them, got REALLY ticked off about it, and so my manager called to basically get me to admit that I had done so.
Yes I was careless. I should not have been pulling the meds and putting them in baggies in the first place, and then I should not have left the baggies lying around like that, especially in a week like this one.
So, I guess basically what I'm ASKING is... do I go ahead and quit without notice so I don't get fired; do I do nothing and just see what happens next, or do I come clean and admit that I made a mistake and should not have been pre-pulling the meds in the first place, and see what happens?
I'm hesitant to even bother to do that last thing, because I'm really feeling that my director, and possibly my manager too, would just as soon get rid of me and find any reason to do so. I won't get into exactly why I feel this way... no it isn't some paranoid delusion... let's just say that things have happened over the past couple of months that lead me to believe that I might be on the chopping block.
I'm worried about being able to find another job. I'll tell you what though; I am SO SO ready to leave nursing. I could walk away from it today and not look back. I am so not cut out for it; I did fairly well at my psych nursing job but that was because it seemed like non detail oriented ME, didn't have quite as many nit-picky rules, regulations and policies to deal with. Plus I didn't have to pass meds; not usually anyway. I just HATE details, and I'm "that nurse" in all of your posts about the horrid, lousy nurse that you worked with that night that drove you crazy.
Anyway, I don't know what to do now. I'm about to just go see if I can get myself a lucrative waitressing job; maybe work my way up to bartender. That would be fun. Ultimately I want to go back to being a career artist. I just want OUT of this but I still need to make at least close to what I make now! I support my family!!!
How did you ever overcome the black balling? I am going through a similar situation and I can not find work anywhere. As soon as my employment is verified, I never hear from anyone again. I can only imagine what is being said about me, but what ever it is, it certainly
has ruined any chances I have to a successful nursing career.
Okay, PLEASE, PLEASE let me preface this by saying this. I screwed up. I majorly, royally screwed up. I got caught doing something I was probably, seriously not supposed to be doing, and during the week that &*%$@! Joint Commission was visiting no less... I screwed up. People do things they shouldn't do; people screw up. I seem to do this a LOT.
((((((((((RealWitch ))))))))) I'd just tell her what you told us. What else can you do. But if you walk away it really looks worse. Maybe there will just be some kind of discipline and then you can leave nursing when you are good and ready. And when you are ready maybe do nursing in some other area. But don't burn your bridges if you don't have to.
We've all taken short cuts maybe we shouldn't have. When I was taking too many shortcuts 5 yrs ago it was a symptom, to me, that I needed to leave for a while.
Hopefully you will not be made an example of.
The omni cell should have some way of giving an activity report.
I should think so.
Thank you for all of your replies. I think I might actually go in tomorrow on my day off and talk to the manager and get to the bottom of all of this. The funny thing about my post is that I don't actually, 100% *know* that we aren't supposed to be pulling meds early and than putting them into ziploc baggies. However, my gut feeling is that it would be frowned upon by Joint Commission, and I was worried that THEY actually somehow found out about the baggies being found.
I also worry that they are just trying to find some reason to get rid of me. Things have been a little... "weird" every since I came back to work after my back surgery. Again, I'm just really not going to go into it right now, but let's just say that out of everything that has been going on, there's only actually been one incident related to actual performance, and that was a patient that complained that I put tape across his nose and under his eyes that gave him a skin reaction, and also that I paid a lot more attention to his roommate than I did him. Firstly, the tape was to try to secure an NG tube that would not stop slipping out, and I didn't know about the reaction until a couple of hours after I had put the tape on, when he was being wheeled to Xray in the bright light of the hallway, and myself and another nurse could see that that skin was red and puffy. As for his roommate; his roommate was a friendly guy with a loud mouth who would yell "Hi there darlin!!!" every time anyone stepped in the room. And would go on that way throughout. I tried to focus on the other patient but it was hard; this is why I despise semi-private rooms.
ANYWAY... so yeah, I'm going to go to work tomorrow and talk to the manager and get to the bottom of things, and find out if I am in trouble and why. I told her over the phone that the whole thing didn't make any sense and that I KNEW that I had given those meds, but I also know that I sounded very clearly upset. The whole thing really truly did not make any sense to me but still had me very worried; was I in trouble for pre-pulling the meds and putting them in baggies (again, still in their blister packs and such); IF they really truly did find pills than they probably don't believe me when I say that I gave the meds.
Clearly the ONLY answer is that the meds were double pulled, or someone is yanking my chain. Yes, they should be able to pull it all up in the Onnicell and be able to tell if the meds were pulled twice.
And we do have MAR's, electronic MAR even, but we do not have a system of scanning the med packs and then scanning the patients, and I really do wish that we did. It also would really be nice if we did at least have some kind of miniature med carts or something, with drawers that we could lock our patients' meds in.
As for my wanting out of nursing... yes I would like out of it, or at least out of bedside nursing. There are times when I actually really do enjoy doing what I do, but for the most part I feel like I am much suited for a position away from the bedside, doing research/utilization review, or working on computer systems. Or perhaps being a staff educator; that's something I've always thought I might like to do. I just don't have a clue how I would get into doing any of those things other than going back to school, which I just really can't do right now; probably not for several years at least. My dream would be to be able to make good money and be happy using my artistic skills and talents; ie using my first college degree. =) I HAVE finally decided to really start taking baby steps towards making that dream happen, but it's a long way away, the reality of it.
Oh well. Anyway, for now, I'm going to talk to my manager and try to put my mind at ease about all of this. And, I am going to look around for other employment; at the very least I really need off of night shift. =)
I am glad you are going in to find out what is going on. You may be worried over nothing. They may not even be your meds. I think you will feel much better after you talk to your manager and get to the bottom of the whole situation. Let us know how it goes! Good luck to you and I hop you can do what you truly love soon.
Good luck! I too am wondering if it's technically prepouring since the meds are in their original packs...I think the bigger issue for me is whether the meds are safely secured once they've been pulled (I don't remember from the original post if this is the case).
At any rate, I'm glad you're going in...I think you'll feel much better about the whole thing once everything's out in the open and once everybody's on the same page.
(((Hugs))):redbeathe
How did you ever overcome the black balling? I am going through a similar situation and I can not find work anywhere. As soon as my employment is verified, I never hear from anyone again. I can only imagine what is being said about me, but what ever it is, it certainlyhas ruined any chances I have to a successful nursing career.
You can pay a small fee to a reference check company to find out what your references are saying about you. PM me if you want to know an online source I plan to use in the future if I feel it is needed.
And now back to the regularly scheduled program...
I also worry that they are just trying to find some reason to get rid of me. Things have been a little... "weird" every since I came back to work after my back surgery.
This part really stuck out to me. It could very well be they are trying to dump you after a back injury. They might see you as a liability and will now make it there mission to fire you or have you quit. It's disgusting but it happens.
I would go talk to your manager and I'm glad you will be doing that. Don't sign anything especially if you don't agree with it. Keep us posted.
i still dont understand about zipper bag thing. first, why would a hospital not have a med cart and allow this kind of things to happen? are all of your patients alert and oriented or are they confused? can your nurse manager ask your patients if they got their morning medicine and can they answer her? try to keep figuring out what could have happended. i dont think quitting now is a good idea without finding out what had happened. did your manager checked all the medications in the zip bag to confirm that all the meds inside are the early morning medications that you are suppose to give to your patient or are they the pills that are suppose to be giving in the morning after your shift? hang in there:icon_hug::icon_hug:
believe it or not, my hospital didn't have med-carts for quite some time. they actually expected nurses to run back and forth between patients pouring medications one patient at a time rather than to have a cart to make things easier. it was only when they got electronic charting that the cart (or cow, as they call it) came back into play. i do remember seeing carts years ago (before i actually started working there).
i agree with everyone else, though...quitting in the middle of this is not a good idea. i pray that this blows over and if you do leave, to a better place.
Okay, PLEASE, PLEASE let me preface this by saying this. I screwed up. I majorly, royally screwed up. I got caught doing something I was probably, seriously not supposed to be doing, and during the week that &*%$@! Joint Commission was visiting no less... I screwed up. People do things they shouldn't do; people screw up. I seem to do this a LOT.Having said that... I feel like I was just set up. I feel like someone really wants rid of me where I work, and I feel like I have been set up. There is absolutely NO WAY this happened the way my manager said that it did. Absolutely no way. I mean, I have been racking my brain here.
Okay... I worked last night, 7p to 7a. In the mornings between 5-7 am, we have to do a med pass. We don't have med carts; all of our patients' meds are in three different Omnicells on our unit, and sometimes it takes a fair amount of time to pass all the meds plus give IV meds, shots of Lovenox, take patients to the bathroom/clean them up while you're in the room... etc..... So, a good majority of us pull our meds beforehand; ie before we even start the med pass. We don't OPEN the packages and put the pills in cups or anything; we just pull the pills, vials of medication, ALL in their original packages labeled and all, and put them in ziploc baggies with the room numbers labeled on the baggies. If I had a med cart (which would be nice), I'd put the pills, unopened and labeled, in the patients' drawers. But we don't have med carts on my unit. Anyway, so this is what some of us do. I always try and make sure I've got the pills in a secure place after I pull them and put them in the baggies; I don't just leave them out on an open counter where anyone can just walk by, see them, and take them.
So, this morning I gave all of my patients their meds. Rushing to get done in time to give report, as usual, but I gave all the meds. I **KNOW** I did. Furthermore, I **KNOW** that I did not go and pull anyone's meds out of the omnicell a second time. Number one, there is no way I had TIME to do this. Number two... I'm often pretty tired in the mornings but not THAT tired. Usually that time of the morning, I'm actually rather jazzed up and alert. It's the hours of 2, 3 AM that usually really get to me!!!
I got a call just a little while ago from the clinical manager. Apparently, a nursing student found a couple of ziploc baggies this morning with meds all in them. I was totally and completely shocked when she told me this; there is ABSOLUTELY no way that this could have happened... if so, it had to have been baggies of meds that someone from two mornings ago left laying around. IT WAS NOT ME. I GAVE THESE MEDS. Well, it is pretty well impossible that they could have been from a couple of mornings ago, unless they were found in the patients' room (the two patients' meds in question are two elderly ladies sharing the same room). The reason for that is that that place has been cleaning from top to bottom in preparation for Joint Commission.
The only other scenarios are a) I DID "double pull" the meds from the Omnicell; I actually forgot that I had already pulled these patients' meds and I pulled them again; thusly leaving the ones that I did actually pull lying somewhere... major OOPS. Or b) Someone found the baggies, empty, came to the conclusion somehow that they were mine and that I had used them in the manner that I did use them, got REALLY ticked off about it, and so my manager called to basically get me to admit that I had done so.
Yes I was careless. I should not have been pulling the meds and putting them in baggies in the first place, and then I should not have left the baggies lying around like that, especially in a week like this one.
So, I guess basically what I'm ASKING is... do I go ahead and quit without notice so I don't get fired; do I do nothing and just see what happens next, or do I come clean and admit that I made a mistake and should not have been pre-pulling the meds in the first place, and see what happens?
I'm hesitant to even bother to do that last thing, because I'm really feeling that my director, and possibly my manager too, would just as soon get rid of me and find any reason to do so. I won't get into exactly why I feel this way... no it isn't some paranoid delusion... let's just say that things have happened over the past couple of months that lead me to believe that I might be on the chopping block.
I'm worried about being able to find another job. I'll tell you what though; I am SO SO ready to leave nursing. I could walk away from it today and not look back. I am so not cut out for it; I did fairly well at my psych nursing job but that was because it seemed like non detail oriented ME, didn't have quite as many nit-picky rules, regulations and policies to deal with. Plus I didn't have to pass meds; not usually anyway. I just HATE details, and I'm "that nurse" in all of your posts about the horrid, lousy nurse that you worked with that night that drove you crazy.
Anyway, I don't know what to do now. I'm about to just go see if I can get myself a lucrative waitressing job; maybe work my way up to bartender. That would be fun. Ultimately I want to go back to being a career artist. I just want OUT of this but I still need to make at least close to what I make now! I support my family!!!
#1- Breath!! You made a mistake!
#2- Tell your manager; If you indeed left medications without giving them, its a medication error, you return , document the doses as missed doses & write yourself up for a medication error...
#3- Never Run from a mistake, it makes you look as if you did it intentionally, if you seriously did not , than you just accept the fact that to error is human, take the medication error & chalk it up to a learning experience.
#4- have you been verbally warned about your performance? written up for medication errors or other errors? Why do you think that you will be terminated if its an honest mistake?
And we pre pour our medications as well, clipping them to the medex because we pass to 135 people every morning & more than that on evenings! SO pre pouring is the only way to get all 600+ inmates their medications within the 1 hr before 1 hr after rule!!
Fess up! do the right thing, be up front & honest w/ your supervisors... They will respect you alot more if you say hey, i made a mistake & i will work hard not to make it again. Nothing makes me more angry as when someone comes with me with excuses of why things happened instead of : hey i screwed up, this is what i am going to do to prevent this from happeneing again!!
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If you do not go in and talk to your manager you will never know what has happened or what the problem is. You may find out there is not a problem. Do you not work off of a MAR or bar coding system after you pull your meds? If so, I don't understand why it is a problem pulling your meds early. Maybe there is something I am not quite understanding. We always pull our meds early from the pyxis and then put them in their locked individual med drawers and then they are aministered via a bar code system at the time they are due.