I don't fit into nursing& nurse eating

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I am 48 and graduated 10 years ago. I have found nursing to be so hostile that I cannot endure it anymore, but I keep plugging on because I am now single and need to support myself. I was recently hired for an orthopedic rehab position that, during my orientation, morphed into a long term acute care hospital.

The staff is very upset about it. We get patients right from critical care and the delivery of patient care was recently changed from primary care to team nursing. I must state here that the staff has a reputation for chasing out new nurses because they are nurse eaters. I don't do well with this.

For compensation purposes an RN must do a full assessment at least once in 24 hours, so the assignments are set up-(like last evening) two RN's, one per hallway and three LPNs that pass the meds and do the treatment. The RNs are responsible for admissions, discharges, IV's, documentation, blood draws, etc. Most full assessments are done on daylight, so it is possible for an

RN to make herself available for prn pain meds, transfers, etc.

Any way, I have had a very hard time with the other staff. It seems that if you are not easy with a quick witted comeback or in the cool clique, you are fodder for their nastiness. I have been told in report that if I press the pause button one more time (d/t interruptions) that this nurse would "break my fingers". The other day we had an inservice on hospice and the discussion was who was going and who would stay on the floor. Due to my former position as a hospice nurse, it was decided that I would stay on the floor. When the supervisor walked away, this same nurse who threatened to break my fingers stated "just last week I killed a pt with IV morphine" Another nurse said, "you had MD orders to give it" and I stated, somewhat lamely " you didn't kill him Susan, what was the dose?" and she turned around and spat at me with venom-"How long were you a hopice nurse, a month?" I backed down because she can get very mean, and I walked away stating "I just don't like to see a nurse beat themselves up because they gave morphine and the pt died." She said "I wish I could kill you with IV morphine." I was very upset for the rest of the day and into the evening. I finally went to report her but the supervisor was in a meeting. The next day she begged forgiveness, and I did forgive her but told her that I was very upset and that it was extremely damaging and hurtful. We spoke congenially after that, but the emotional toll was great. As luck would have it, the next day a pt came in and the wife and dtr told me they were told "he came her to die". I asked if anyone had mentioned hospice, and she said "what is hospice?"

We don't contract with a hospice and we are still a rehap hospital, so it has been very confusing to the staff and family- the wife decided to give it a week to decide and she had much family and friends telling her what she should do. I gave her much impartial support and told her that it was not our job to tell her what to do, but to inform her as much as we could and she decided to take it day by day. NG tube feedings, copious pulmonary secretions, prob pneumonia and aspiration and ESRD. Yesterday the wife decided to let him go. On my 3-11 the pt had another nurse. I was alone at the station when the wife came up and asked me a question. I found out the answer, went to tell her and got involved with much emotional support and letting her know what she would see as far as the death process and how we would make him comfortable. He was very gurgly from the admission and I really thought he would not dry up (he had a scop patch and attropine gtts) and I emphasized that the mso4 would make him comfortable. She cried on my shoulder and I held her. We spoke about how long he could go on and her choices of inpatient if he lasted a couple days. I felt that he could since he was getting water flushes via NGT.

I found out that all the nurses and techs were at the station livid that I was in there and "who did I think I was?" I was then told by the evening supervisor to stay away and let the assigned nurse "handle anything else that comes up" I agreed, but I was really disconcerted by the mentality of the people that I work with. I examined my boundaries. I do not feel I was the only one who could do the job, although my backround and relationship that was established with the wife gave me an ability to give her support in this time. She was very grateful.

I just don't feel that I can fit into this profession. No matter what I do or how hard I try, I feel that my patients are grateful and benefit from my presence, but I just can't deal with the incredible hatefulness that pervades most nurses behavior. I don't have a mean bone in my body, but I come home every day examining my actions and blaming myself for either what comes my way (after all I must be doing something wrong to be so disliked) or hating myself for not standing up to them. I feel that standing up to them is a daily chore and it is just too draining. I have come to hate going to work and I am dreaming of the day I can open a small lingerie store or the like.

Thanks for listening.

Specializes in Nursing Professional Development.

I find it interesting that some people blame the manager for not doing something about this horrible person ... and we don't know that anyone has ever documented her behavior with the management. In order for a manager to discipline or terminate an employee, someone has to document that bad behavior -- and we don't know if that has been done.

If we want managers to create better work environments, we all must do our part to document the problems that need fixing. Managers can't act on rumors.

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I find it ironic that we in the profession of caring for others somehow can't extend it to our coworkers.

I, too, have worked in an environment that was dog eat dog, having little cliques, folks causing great turmoil just because they could. It just goes to show that for every hard working, dedicated, Professional Nurse....there's the opposite, malcontent, who thrives on keeping everyone stirred up.

I think that you probably radiate caring, have more energy than the folks who are on your unit and they are intimidated. They look in your eyes and see what they are not, and that can be a bitter pill to swallow.

I'll step down off my soapbox now..........

I am 48 and graduated 10 years ago. I have found nursing to be so hostile that I cannot endure it anymore, but I keep plugging on because I am now single and need to support myself. I was recently hired for an orthopedic rehab position that, during my orientation, morphed into a long term acute care hospital.

The staff is very upset about it. We get patients right from critical care and the delivery of patient care was recently changed from primary care to team nursing. I must state here that the staff has a reputation for chasing out new nurses because they are nurse eaters. I don't do well with this.

For compensation purposes an RN must do a full assessment at least once in 24 hours, so the assignments are set up-(like last evening) two RN's, one per hallway and three LPNs that pass the meds and do the treatment. The RNs are responsible for admissions, discharges, IV's, documentation, blood draws, etc. Most full assessments are done on daylight, so it is possible for an

RN to make herself available for prn pain meds, transfers, etc.

Any way, I have had a very hard time with the other staff. It seems that if you are not easy with a quick witted comeback or in the cool clique, you are fodder for their nastiness. I have been told in report that if I press the pause button one more time (d/t interruptions) that this nurse would "break my fingers". The other day we had an inservice on hospice and the discussion was who was going and who would stay on the floor. Due to my former position as a hospice nurse, it was decided that I would stay on the floor. When the supervisor walked away, this same nurse who threatened to break my fingers stated "just last week I killed a pt with IV morphine" Another nurse said, "you had MD orders to give it" and I stated, somewhat lamely " you didn't kill him Susan, what was the dose?" and she turned around and spat at me with venom-"How long were you a hopice nurse, a month?" I backed down because she can get very mean, and I walked away stating "I just don't like to see a nurse beat themselves up because they gave morphine and the pt died." She said "I wish I could kill you with IV morphine." I was very upset for the rest of the day and into the evening. I finally went to report her but the supervisor was in a meeting. The next day she begged forgiveness, and I did forgive her but told her that I was very upset and that it was extremely damaging and hurtful. We spoke congenially after that, but the emotional toll was great. As luck would have it, the next day a pt came in and the wife and dtr told me they were told "he came her to die". I asked if anyone had mentioned hospice, and she said "what is hospice?"

We don't contract with a hospice and we are still a rehap hospital, so it has been very confusing to the staff and family- the wife decided to give it a week to decide and she had much family and friends telling her what she should do. I gave her much impartial support and told her that it was not our job to tell her what to do, but to inform her as much as we could and she decided to take it day by day. NG tube feedings, copious pulmonary secretions, prob pneumonia and aspiration and ESRD. Yesterday the wife decided to let him go. On my 3-11 the pt had another nurse. I was alone at the station when the wife came up and asked me a question. I found out the answer, went to tell her and got involved with much emotional support and letting her know what she would see as far as the death process and how we would make him comfortable. He was very gurgly from the admission and I really thought he would not dry up (he had a scop patch and attropine gtts) and I emphasized that the mso4 would make him comfortable. She cried on my shoulder and I held her. We spoke about how long he could go on and her choices of inpatient if he lasted a couple days. I felt that he could since he was getting water flushes via NGT.

I found out that all the nurses and techs were at the station livid that I was in there and "who did I think I was?" I was then told by the evening supervisor to stay away and let the assigned nurse "handle anything else that comes up" I agreed, but I was really disconcerted by the mentality of the people that I work with. I examined my boundaries. I do not feel I was the only one who could do the job, although my backround and relationship that was established with the wife gave me an ability to give her support in this time. She was very grateful.

I just don't feel that I can fit into this profession. No matter what I do or how hard I try, I feel that my patients are grateful and benefit from my presence, but I just can't deal with the incredible hatefulness that pervades most nurses behavior. I don't have a mean bone in my body, but I come home every day examining my actions and blaming myself for either what comes my way (after all I must be doing something wrong to be so disliked) or hating myself for not standing up to them. I feel that standing up to them is a daily chore and it is just too draining. I have come to hate going to work and I am dreaming of the day I can open a small lingerie store or the like.

Thanks for listening.

Wow! Amazing! And I don't mean in a good way. This actually nauseates me.

I would consider reporting the woman who threatened you to the police. Where I come from it is illegal to utter a threat, and in all honesty, I don't think you can assume that everyone is playing with a full deck. How do you know what she's capable of doing? Have you considered talking to the state board, and asking for their opinion? I definitely wouldn't ignore her behavior, for your sake and other's.

Maybe you should be looking for a different position? I was doing ICU, needed a change, and am now doing telephone triage. Not every place and not all people are going to be like this. Look around! You don't need this!

I am sorry that you have had to deal with that nurse. The one who refers to giving Morphine as killing people lacks class and is thoughtless mean and cruel... if she would say that to you, Heaven only knows what she is saying or doing to patients.... you have a kind heart and thankgod you are there and you are advocating for your patients.... to ease the pain of a patient's loved one.... true healing... I hope you will find the courage to go on.... Change jobs... sounds like hospice is your true calling... a gift... from God.... you're a gift from God. Patients need nurses like you.... I wish you would have reported that other nurse.... she is dangerous to our profession... Bless your heart.... You stick with it.... we need you!!!!

Specializes in Rehab, Step-down,Tele,Hospice.

I would DEFINATLY have a big problem if some nurse said she wanted to kill me with a morphine IV. Maybe it would have made things worse but I know for a fact I would have gone nose to nose with her, she obviously needs professional help ASAP!

I have been fortunate enough not to have ever experienced this kind of nastiness, but have heard of it happening time and time again. I agree with other posters maybe try someplace different.

I also think to be a nurse you must have pretty thick skin, its not a "touchy feel good profession", which of course is the exact opposite of what people think.

My prayers are with you, if you really hate nursing I dont think you should make yourself miserable, do what you love, its your life! enjoy it!.

First of all, sorry you are dealing with this. She needs to be reported to the manager ASAP. That is completely unprofessional and definitely abusive behavior.

Don't leave nursing. I am a new grad and work at a wonderful hospital with wonderful nurses. I was scared to get into the world of nursing after some of the nurses I encountered in nursing school, but went to the hospital where I was treated the best. Figuring that if the nurses are happy they treat others right. They don't keep the eat your young type. I was specifically told to report any of that behavior as it is unacceptable. Haven't seen it.

Good luck finding somewhere where you can be treated with the respect we ALL deserve.

Specializes in ccu cardiovascular.

You don't deserve be treated this way! This is harrassment, unfortunately the manager has allowed these nurses to behave this way and now it is accepted.

There are better jobs for you in pa. I sent you a pm. I felt like you did last year and almost quit nursing altogether. You have ten years experience, many places would love to have you work for them, and not all nurses are that cruel and mean.

This board is a wonerful example of how giving we can be to our peers. What bothers me if these nurses are hospice nurses how do they treat their patients who are in their last hours of need and deserve all the care and compassion we as nurses should be giving.

Specializes in Psych, Med/Surg, Home Health, Oncology.

Cargal

Please don't give up on Nursing just yet. You sound like you belong in Nursing.

I do think you need to look for a new setting, tho. NOW!! Some of the things said to you border on criminal. Get out of there.

All places are not as you describe. They are not all perfect by any means; they may even be not so nice--but your place sounds like the limit.

I know that it takes a while to get settled into a place & find your niche, but it doesn't sound like this is the place. Get out. Find another setting.

Recently, several of us had to start in a new place after many years at the previous place. They don't particularly like us here, but we are at least respected. Our opinions are respected & tho we might never be best friends, we do get along OK & do help each other out.

Please remember that with being a nurse you have many options as far as job settings --Hospital, LTC, Home Health, Office, School--you name it.

Check them out.

Good Luck,

Mary Ann

The funny thing is, if you leave, you'll have people coming out of the woodwork at your present workplace to tell you how wonderful you are, and if you will reconsider? (That happened to me! I ended up leaving and evetually the bad apples did too after three years but you know who ended up staying? The turkey at the top!.)

I had to laugh out loud when I read this because it reminded me of my old job :rotfl: They treated everyone poorly at this facility. I would bring up areas of concern to the Charge Nurse or the DON (nicely, not like one of those people that belly-aches every day) and sometimes even told them that if things didn't change that I would have to resign. They would call me into the office and say how "wonderful" I was, blah, blah, blah and that things would change and they always gave me a raise. Things would be fine for a month or two and then fall back into the same miserable patters. I got more raises this way than my yearly evals. :rolleyes:

Hi Carrie

You sound alot like me. I worked with a bully nurse who won the supervisor over by buying her many many gifts. When my son was in Iraq, she would laugh about all the boys coming home in body bags. She wanted my 7-3 shift and was able to make my life miserable because of team nursing. I couldn't take it anymore, started making mistakes, ect. I left nursing for a few months and finally went back as a home health nurse. I don't have to put up with so much of that now. I am mostly on my own and find it rewarding and fufilling. that is the beauty of nursing...if you don't like one area you can always try another until you find something you like. Try this Carrie, before you leave. We need good nurses who care about each other and the patients. Don't give up!!

Specializes in ER, Medicine.

Don't give up. There are so many places to work at. The place where you work isn't the only place in the world. Not everyplace has mean and spiteful people. The hardest part is finding that place out of the thousands of places to work. If I were you, I would start looking for another hospital/clinic/care center to work at. Everyplace is unique. Good luck!

I had to laugh out loud when I read this because it reminded me of my old job :rotfl: They treated everyone poorly at this facility. I would bring up areas of concern to the Charge Nurse or the DON (nicely, not like one of those people that belly-aches every day) and sometimes even told them that if things didn't change that I would have to resign. They would call me into the office and say how "wonderful" I was, blah, blah, blah and that things would change and they always gave me a raise. Things would be fine for a month or two and then fall back into the same miserable patters. I got more raises this way than my yearly evals. :rolleyes:

OMG..isn't this the truth. They gave you raises hoping you would stay and help 'fix' things...I've been there myself. But...easier said than done when its 'in the culture' without a commited group of change agents.

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