I am being advised that when I graduate...

[Lexnursingstudent]

I am being advised that when I graduate I can walk right into a RN position. Why am I seeing that I may have to hound or beg the HR for a position? I feel that the more you jump, hoot and holler in HR face, the more they laugh and get their thrills of saying "nothing yet, sorry". Maybe NM should be taken out of the picture all together. Why can't the director of nursing do all the hiring like in the old days. To me it is crazy to believe that I will have to beg for a RN position. Am I being ignorant about some fact here in nursing?

If this is so, then I will have a professional do my resume, betcha dollar bottom I will. Now, I am scared of paying all this money for a degree and possibly may have to look at begging for a job. No way not me!!!!! Thumbs down on that.

[RNKel, ASN, RN]

2 year RN do not graduate with the full scope of practice as a 4 year,

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ROFL!! Where did you get your (incorrect) information?

Come here and ask my local hospital RNs which nurses they'd rather work with? A new grad from the 2 year ADN program or one from the 4 year BSN program in town? You might be surprised at their answer.

Now, I'm NOT putting down BSNs, I will probably go back for mine in a few years; but what you said above is just plain incorrect.

[RNKel, ASN, RN]

How many medical errors have you made in you nursing profession? Tell us all that.

How many time have you called off from work sick and it was a lie, and knowing you were creating a hardship on your fellow nurses, and there were people who needed you.

How many time have you lied on a nurse report?

Did you score 100% in your medication calculations? I do all the time. Do you?

No, of course you don't, and that leads to nurses making med errors, FACT!!!

Wow... what are you so angry about?

[llg, PhD, RN]

What a hoot. This thread is

:rotfl:

and

at the same time.

My thoughts exactly. Actually, I am dumbfounded.

[netglow, ASN, RN]

:chuckle:no::argue::anbd::zzzzz:stone:cool::imbar:eek::angryfire;):icon_roll:uhoh21:

[truern]

Has anybody else noticed that when the error of someone's thinking is pointed out to them sometimes they tend to go off in a whole new direction rather than recognize and acknowledge that they were wrong?

Yep, sad sad thread.

[Multicollinearity, BSN, RN]

Rarely does one single thread contain so many inaccuracies, flailing so wildly in so many directions. It's a sight to behold. If allnurses had a razzy thread award, this would be it.

I do feel a sense of sadness for the OP, at what her life is probably going to be like as a new grad RN (if she does not listen). I can see the thread now, "They fired me for no reason!!!"

[netglow, ASN, RN]

So.... hey, did anyone catch "Dancing with the stars" tonight?

.....just kidding.

[ncoli123]

Hmmm... you seem to have gotten many of your facts wrong. A 2- yr RN has the same exact scope of practice as a 4-yr RN, in the end they both take the same test. Where did you come up with this? Who knows what else you may be mistaken about! Do you really believe that after your 4- yr degree you will have experienced more than a nurse with years of experience? Good luck at your new job...I'm sure you can teach those dumb ol' nurses a thing or two!

[HeartsOpenWide, RN]

So, don't tell me that a 2 yr RN will not have to step aside ( it will be done becuase 4 yr students are trained in leadership skills)

Yes, but if you do not understand the objectives of your leadership course you really are not benefiting from this extra piece of education. I am guessing that you have not taken your Leadership course yet or got a poor grade because your additive is not one of a leader at all. Guess your not benefiting from all that extra education after all.

[sharpeimom]

My thoughts exactly. Actually, I am dumbfounded.

Takes quite a lot to render me absolutely positively speechless, but this thread has done just that... :omy:

sharpeimom:paw::paw:

[~Mi Vida Loca~RN, ASN, RN]

How many medical errors have you made in you nursing profession? Tell us all that.

How many time have you called off from work sick and it was a lie, and knowing you were creating a hardship on your fellow nurses, and there were people who needed you.

How many time have you lied on a nurse report?

Did you score 100% in your medication calculations? I do all the time. Do you?

No, of course you don't, and that leads to nurses making med errors, FACT!!!

Your first point and second point is a character issue, not a ADN vs BSN issue.

Your third point is well pointless, every ADN progam I know about requires 100% on the dosage calculations test. I am not a nurse so they can correct me, but from what I have been told, most dosage errors came from mis-reading the order or being distracted in some form, NOT from the nurse not knowing how to do a calculation correctly on the math aspect.

I could go further go on and tell you what your BSN has obviously FAILED to teach you, but I will leave it at that. One last note, if you find yourself having a problem finding a job, I don't think it has anything to do with the economy or the degree you recieved.

[getoverit, BSN, RN, EMT-P]

to lexnursingstudent,

your posts are amazing. On behalf of nurses everywhere (both ADN and BSN), I would ask you to do a favor to all of us. Print off this thread and re-read it after you've been working for 2-3 years. We all know how you feel now, but I'd be very interested to hear what you think of your opinion after you get some real experience.