How will you optimize your personal mental health if "the other guy" wins the election?

[myoglobin]

Thus, if you support Trump and Biden wins or if you support Biden and Trump wins? What approaches will you consider implementing to minimize your feelings of disappointment, sadness and maximize positive relations with coworkers, patients, and others that you come into contact with? Personally, I plan to focus more "on my own life" but also look for opportunities to become more socially and perhaps politically active in the causes that I believe to be important.  Does anyone have any other "tips" on how to handle these situations for better personal mental health and more harmonious relationships?

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

17 hours ago, myoglobin said:

There has been a plethora of statistical analysis, and things like the video tape evidence in Georgia to name but two examples. I am sure you would not consider these credible, but that is not the point. About half of America (and most of the people who voted for Trump do). This thread is mainly about how "we" (the one's who lost) best deal with the fact that the very image of everything we oppose (and in many cases detest as an ideology) now controls the levers of power.  Had "my guy" won  (fairly or by fraud as was alleged by Hillary and many of her supporters) then the question would b how "your side" could deal with the same issues. However, you prevailed and we lost.

That videotape was a joke.  What is showed was people bringing ballot boxes into the counting room (they were called "suitcases" but were the routine black containers uses for every ballot delivery to the room.  So far, the Republican's evidence in every case that has come to a courtroom has been proven to be a bunch of hooey.  Hey, I had to accept it when Trump won and cried a couple of days, but I ACCEPTED that he won.  But I did know he would never be re-elected because he has never shown a thread of decency or good judgement while impregnating multiple women in NYC (and those are only the ones we know about!).  I really want to live in a world where I don't have to know the shape of my president's member (mushroom).  Now it's time for the Republicans to do what the Dems did in 2016 - accept it and hope for the best.  But, of course the Repubs will hope for the worst because they'd rather throw spitballs across the legislature than sit down and do any hard work.

[myoglobin, ASN, BSN, MSN]

15 minutes ago, subee said:

Wyoming schools rank 40th (from the top) so yeah, go to a state when a

rotten educational system whose people reflect you values.  Really? Obama is over and I live living in the present rather than spending any intellectual energy on what has already passed.  I didn't vote for Obama but he is a statesman compared to Trump the Destroyer of Everything.  It's a big clue if he can't manage to make money in the casino business, he probably can't run a country.

 

 

You may argue that it is bias, partisan and not accurate but there is significant evidence of voter fraud:

a. https://theredelephants.com/trust-the-science-there-is-undeniable-scientific-evidence-of-widespread-voter-fraud/

b. https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2020/11/10/evidence-of-voter-fraud-in-the-2020-us-presidential-election/

c. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/voter-integrity-project-releases-evidence-thousands-vote-fraud-issues-combined-affidavits-rudy-statistical-analysis-enough-information-available-confirming-tr/

d. https://nypost.com/2020/12/16/not-so-looney-look-at-2020-election-results-devine/

Of course each and every one of these can be subject to counter arguments. However, there is also the media blackout of known Biden Associates who took money from China and gave to the Biden family (indeed his son is facing probably indictment).  Bottom line half of us will work diligently what we see as an attempt to undermine the United States. Also, Trump received a record amount of minority support for a Republican.  

[toomuchbaloney]

31 minutes ago, myoglobin said:

You may argue that it is bias, partisan and not accurate but there is significant evidence of voter fraud:

a. https://theredelephants.com/trust-the-science-there-is-undeniable-scientific-evidence-of-widespread-voter-fraud/

b. https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2020/11/10/evidence-of-voter-fraud-in-the-2020-us-presidential-election/

c. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/voter-integrity-project-releases-evidence-thousands-vote-fraud-issues-combined-affidavits-rudy-statistical-analysis-enough-information-available-confirming-tr/

d. https://nypost.com/2020/12/16/not-so-looney-look-at-2020-election-results-devine/

Of course each and every one of these can be subject to counter arguments. However, there is also the media blackout of known Biden Associates who took money from China and gave to the Biden family (indeed his son is facing probably indictment).  Bottom line half of us will work diligently what we see as an attempt to undermine the United States. Also, Trump received a record amount of minority support for a Republican.  

You seem to be chock full of conspiracy theory and programmed anxiety.  

Regardless of the partisan rabble rousing that you believe, there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud.  Trump's lawyers have offered exactly zero evidence of voter fraud in their dozens of lawsuits. Clearly, Trump is certain that his indoctrinated worshippers will believe whatever he says...you provide anecdotal evidence that he is correct. Regardless of the credible evidence that Trump lost and is simply whining only the way a dangerous despot can whine, you continue to the believe that Trump was wronged by Democrats.  Trump says he's a victim and you believe it...he said all conservatives are victims and his cult cheered.  

Your ability to vet information and discern truth from political nonsense is alarmingly flawed for an advanced practice nursing professional. 

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

1 hour ago, myoglobin said:

You may argue that it is bias, partisan and not accurate but there is significant evidence of voter fraud:

a. https://theredelephants.com/trust-the-science-there-is-undeniable-scientific-evidence-of-widespread-voter-fraud/

b. https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2020/11/10/evidence-of-voter-fraud-in-the-2020-us-presidential-election/

c. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/voter-integrity-project-releases-evidence-thousands-vote-fraud-issues-combined-affidavits-rudy-statistical-analysis-enough-information-available-confirming-tr/

d. https://nypost.com/2020/12/16/not-so-looney-look-at-2020-election-results-devine/

Of course each and every one of these can be subject to counter arguments. However, there is also the media blackout of known Biden Associates who took money from China and gave to the Biden family (indeed his son is facing probably indictment).  Bottom line half of us will work diligently what we see as an attempt to undermine the United States. Also, Trump received a record amount of minority support for a Republican.  

Sorry.  The Post is just a rag for people who can't read news stories longer than 2 paragraphs and the other websites you listed were right-wing blusterers..no academic statisticians involved.  Except for 1 case of the 57 cases taken to court by the Republicans, 56 of them were decided non-fradulent by judges appoint by TRUMP, including SCOTUS.  If Republican judges can't find evidence of fraud (and how many times did Trump's lawyers admit to their respective judges that they had no credible evidence?), then I'll certainly put more faith in their decisions than in these looney right wing websites you listed.  I'm still laughing that a supposedly educated person is citing the New York Post!  It's most memorable front page headline was Gaddafi's Daffy and the other unforgettable one of Jocelyn Wildensteins awful plastic surgery with the title "Catwoman".

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

 

So what you're saying is the long standing freedom of press has been compromised, and the longest democracy in the world has failed.

I guess you and a few lucky few are aware of this, but all the rest of us are asking is to prove it.  The Supreme Court is asking for adequate evidence to prove it.  How is it the Supreme Court isn't even privy to this "widespread evidence of fraud".   You're running out of time.  This is the biggest scandal in the history of America and this "widespread evidence of fraud" really needs to come out.  

[toomuchbaloney]

24 minutes ago, Tweety said:

So what you're saying is the long standing freedom of press has been compromised, and the longest democracy in the world has failed.

I guess you and a few lucky few are aware of this, but all the rest of us are asking is to prove it.  The Supreme Court is asking for adequate evidence to prove it.  How is it the Supreme Court isn't even privy to this "widespread evidence of fraud".   You're running out of time.  This is the biggest scandal in the history of America and this "widespread evidence of fraud" really needs to come out.  

Your comment quoted me...I think that was an error.

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

1 minute ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Your comment quoted me...I think that was an error.

opps

[myoglobin, ASN, BSN, MSN]

Again, this debate takes away from the central point of this thread. Best way of dealing with "your guy" losing. So I will give advice to myself and those like me:

a. Focus on your own world more than the world at large. Personally, I have some reasons to be happy. My personal income has gone from around 60K under Trump to around 300K now so that's something. My significant others income is on tract to go from around 150K to around 350K

b.  Move to a place (like Wyoming) where people may reflect my values more closely.

c. As someone who owes about 150K in student loans my odds of loan forgiveness are better under Biden than they were for Trump. I wasn't an Obama fan, but his healthcare reform brought mental health parity to health insurance and that helped me decide to become a PMHNP.  Maybe Biden will do things that I would not have fully appreciated that I find positive.

d. If inflation "goes wild" from stimulus spending then that will be good for me since I have 0 in assets and savings. I might be able to pay off my fixed rate student loan debt in hyperinflated dollars. Since the only thing I care about doing with my free time is playing five year old PS4 games it won't matter much to me that other prices are higher.

e.  I don't have health insurance so maybe Biden will pass something that gives me access to health insurance.  

f.  I've joined some shooting/hunting clubs maybe I will make a friend or two and have something to do besides work and play video games.   

There you go there are some worthwhile strategies. Not sure they will help any other Trump supporters but they are something.

[toomuchbaloney]

12 minutes ago, myoglobin said:

Again, this debate takes away from the central point of this thread. Best way of dealing with "your guy" losing. So I will give advice to myself and those like me:

a. Focus on your own world more than the world at large. Personally, I have some reasons to be happy. My personal income has gone from around 60K under Trump to around 300K now so that's something. My significant others income is on tract to go from around 150K to around 350K

b.  Move to a place (like Wyoming) where people may reflect my values more closely.

c. As someone who owes about 150K in student loans my odds of loan forgiveness are better under Biden than they were for Trump. I wasn't an Obama fan, but his healthcare reform brought mental health parity to health insurance and that helped me decide to become a PMHNP.  Maybe Biden will do things that I would not have fully appreciated that I find positive.

d. If inflation "goes wild" from stimulus spending then that will be good for me since I have 0 in assets and savings. I might be able to pay off my fixed rate student loan debt in hyperinflated dollars. Since the only thing I care about doing with my free time is playing five year old PS4 games it won't matter much to me that other prices are higher.

e.  I don't have health insurance so maybe Biden will pass something that gives me access to health insurance.  

f.  I've joined some shooting/hunting clubs maybe I will make a friend or two and have something to do besides work and play video games.   

There you go there are some worthwhile strategies. Not sure they will help any other Trump supporters but they are something.

Worthwhile only if Trump and his cult don't break our republic with lies and intentional destruction and chaos. Your suggestions are wholly inadequate to mitigate the crazy anti-democratic attitudes of Trump supporters today.  

It is interesting that in these threads you've mentioned your income 3 times. 

[myoglobin, ASN, BSN, MSN]

13 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Worthwhile only if Trump and his cult don't break our republic with lies and intentional destruction and chaos. Your suggestions are wholly inadequate to mitigate the crazy anti-democratic attitudes of Trump supporters today.  

It is interesting that in these threads you've mentioned your income 3 times. 

Where else in this thread did I mention my income? Maybe, if you had survived without health insurance for over a decade and owed 160K in student loans and had assets worth $0, you might be somewhat happy about seeing an increase in your income as well.  In any case it is something I am thankful for. Also, the only person who needs to benefit from this advice is me. It is unlikely that all of these things would apply for other Trump supporters but some of the general principles might (focus on things in your own life that you are grateful for).  How wil lTrump "break" our Republic? If he has the power to somehow hold on to power then please tell me how as it would also be something that I would add to my list as things that would make me and other Trump supporters quite happy. The way I see it he is out of options and Biden will be our new President.  

[MunoRN, RN]

5 hours ago, myoglobin said:

You may argue that it is bias, partisan and not accurate but there is significant evidence of voter fraud:

a. https://theredelephants.com/trust-the-science-there-is-undeniable-scientific-evidence-of-widespread-voter-fraud/

b. https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2020/11/10/evidence-of-voter-fraud-in-the-2020-us-presidential-election/

c. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/voter-integrity-project-releases-evidence-thousands-vote-fraud-issues-combined-affidavits-rudy-statistical-analysis-enough-information-available-confirming-tr/

d. https://nypost.com/2020/12/16/not-so-looney-look-at-2020-election-results-devine/

Of course each and every one of these can be subject to counter arguments. However, there is also the media blackout of known Biden Associates who took money from China and gave to the Biden family (indeed his son is facing probably indictment).  Bottom line half of us will work diligently what we see as an attempt to undermine the United States. Also, Trump received a record amount of minority support for a Republican.  

Tha that's a lot of misinformation packed into one post.  The most efficient way to sift through those claims is to look at how many of those claims had enough legitimacy behind them to repeat in a court of law,  in which case the answer is zero.   Not a single one of those claims were argued when an actual punishment for lying is involved. 

For instance, the claim that Republican ballots "went missing" was based on there being more Republicans registered to vote than ended up voting.   This is normal, not everyone who is registered to vote ends up actually voting.   Another was that as results came in from different precincts the ratio of Biden to Trump votes varied significantly, also normal for different areas to vary from one another in their support for one candidate or another.   

Basically,  the Trump campaign argument is that the election wasn't fair because more people voted for the other guy. 

And it's not half of America that believes the election was rigged,  it's a little over half of Republicans,  so about a quarter of America.  Which is still a lot, although its certainly not unusual for attempts to subvert democracy through corrupt tactics to be perpetuated by sizable minorities.

And no, Trump did not receive a record amount of minority support for a Republican. 

https://www.Google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/11/09/no-trump-didn't-win-the-largest-share-of-non-white-voters-of-any-republican-in-60-years/amp/

 

[toomuchbaloney]

1 hour ago, myoglobin said:

Where else in this thread did I mention my income? Maybe, if you had survived without health insurance for over a decade and owed 160K in student loans and had assets worth $0, you might be somewhat happy about seeing an increase in your income as well.  In any case it is something I am thankful for. Also, the only person who needs to benefit from this advice is me. It is unlikely that all of these things would apply for other Trump supporters but some of the general principles might (focus on things in your own life that you are grateful for).  How wil lTrump "break" our Republic? If he has the power to somehow hold on to power then please tell me how as it would also be something that I would add to my list as things that would make me and other Trump supporters quite happy. The way I see it he is out of options and Biden will be our new President.  

Perhaps you should review your posts across the platform...yes you've mentioned your income several times. 

Your assumptions about me say something about you but have nothing to do with me.  How do you know anything about my insurance, income or debt/asset status? 

How could Trump break our republic? Do you want a reading list? Do you think our republic is unbreakable or are you simply ignoring his efforts?