How will you optimize your personal mental health if "the other guy" wins the election?

[myoglobin]

Thus, if you support Trump and Biden wins or if you support Biden and Trump wins? What approaches will you consider implementing to minimize your feelings of disappointment, sadness and maximize positive relations with coworkers, patients, and others that you come into contact with? Personally, I plan to focus more "on my own life" but also look for opportunities to become more socially and perhaps politically active in the causes that I believe to be important.  Does anyone have any other "tips" on how to handle these situations for better personal mental health and more harmonious relationships?

[toomuchbaloney]

47 minutes ago, myoglobin said:

It is more reasonable with the 308 round in the AR10 than the smaller 223 round used in the AR15., however both are legal rounds for hunting in most states. Of course if I don’t know how to field dress and prep the animal for storage then hunting is irrelevant. Also chronic wasting disease is a concern.

LOL

I guess you're going to learn how to do it, I'll accept that. Lots of people move to Alaska and learn how to hunt.  There was just a terrible massacre and destruction of fragile tundra when hundreds of beginners flocked to the site where the 40 mile caribou herd crossed the road 100 miles NE of Fairbanks.  People were endangering others by shooting into fog and leaving carcasses which attracts predators.  There was so much waste...so many orphaned calves.

Funny thing, a good number of those folk are with the military.  The interior Army and AF leadership had to have a sit down with the hunters about etiquette and safety while they are learning.  Seems like knowing how to shoot their guns and kill things didn't doesn't really prepare people adequately for subsistence hunting.

[myoglobin, ASN, BSN, MSN]

On 11/4/2020 at 6:16 PM, nursej22 said:

I see no merits in the party of Trump. They are not conservatives, they are not Republicans, they are not the right. They support a malignant narcissist because he makes empty promises while doling out money to his grifter friends and family.

We are the laughing stock and pariah of the world, but sure, he is preventing genocide. Gag me. 

Maybe, but he received more votes than any other President in the history of United States elections (except for Joe Biden).  So almost half of the people in the United States disagree at least to some extent with your perspective.  Still, the question was how to deal with things if "your guy lost". In this case "my guy lost and your guy one" so the issue does not apply to you.  

[toomuchbaloney]

1 hour ago, myoglobin said:

Maybe, but he received more votes than any other President in the history of United States elections (except for Joe Biden).  So almost half of the people in the United States disagree at least to some extent with your perspective.  Still, the question was how to deal with things if "your guy lost". In this case "my guy lost and your guy one" so the issue does not apply to you.  

I guess.

Unfortunately, your guy, millions of his devoted voters and way too many republican politicians are insisting that he did not lose.  They have mounted a campaign to overthrow the election in that belief. That corrupt intent and behavior is a threat to our republic and everyone's mental health. 

[myoglobin, ASN, BSN, MSN]

7 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I guess.

Unfortunately, your guy, millions of his devoted voters and way too many republican politicians are insisting that he did not lose.  They have mounted a campaign to overthrow the election in that belief. That corrupt intent and behavior is a threat to our republic and everyone's mental health. 

Well, I agree that they may be correct. Except that I see the threat to the Republic as rampant, widespread voter fraud that undermines confidence end a Democratic system. Still, it doesn't really matter what I (or my Republican allies) believe we have not prevailed and at the end of the day Joe Biden will be sworn in and hold the reigns of power (which we will oppose at every turn, but likely be defeated). Thus, we return to the original question of dealing with "our side" losing.

 

That should have read widespread voter fraud that undermines confidence in a democratic system.  The edit function does not seem to be working.

[myoglobin, ASN, BSN, MSN]

Imagine a world where each side believes that the other side isn't just wrong, but that they are almost "evil" intent upon the very undermining of human liberty itself and you have something approaching what exists between roughly half of Americans today.  Yet at the end of the day here we find ourselves living together, working together, sometimes even sharing households and long term friendships.  When that happens it starts to look like the only solution might be to move to Wyoming, and hope enough of my like minded brothers and sisters join me there that we can endure whatever changes are brought to the nation.  

[toomuchbaloney]

8 minutes ago, myoglobin said:

Well, I agree that they may be correct. Except that I see the threat to the Republic as rampant, widespread voter fraud that undermines confidence end a Democratic system. Still, it doesn't really matter what I (or my Republican allies) believe we have not prevailed and at the end of the day Joe Biden will be sworn in and hold the reigns of power (which we will oppose at every turn, but likely be defeated). Thus, we return to the original question of dealing with "our side" losing.

 

That should have read widespread voter fraud that undermines confidence in a democratic system.  The edit function does not seem to be working.

Gosh. Believing things without evidence.  Sounds like a religion or a cult because there IS NO EVIDENCE OF WIDE SPREAD VOTER FRAUD.

Donald Trump's corrupt incompetence, his divisive and dishonest rhetoric and lies all serve to undermine confidence in our democratic system.  

[myoglobin, ASN, BSN, MSN]

3 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Gosh. Believing things without evidence.  Sounds like a religion or a cult because there IS NO EVIDENCE OF WIDE SPREAD VOTER FRAUD.

Donald Trump's corrupt incompetence, his divisive and dishonest rhetoric and lies all serve to undermine confidence in our democratic system.  

Again, we disagree about evidence of voter fraud (I believe it was confined to several key battleground states).  Still a little less than half of Americans believe the same of you as you do us.  However, at the end of the day your side won and we lost (even if we believe there was fraud, we still lose). Thus, the issue goes back to the title of the thread how "we" (the losing side) deal with the issue of losing. The World turns no matter who is right or wrong.

[toomuchbaloney]

9 minutes ago, myoglobin said:

Imagine a world where each side believes that the other side isn't just wrong, but that they are almost "evil" intent upon the very undermining of human liberty itself and you have something approaching what exists between roughly half of Americans today.  Yet at the end of the day here we find ourselves living together, working together, sometimes even sharing households and long term friendships.  When that happens it starts to look like the only solution might be to move to Wyoming, and hope enough of my like minded brothers and sisters join me there that we can endure whatever changes are brought to the nation.  

Sure.

Meanwhile, exactly none of the media that I read or listen to suggests to me that the "otherside" is evil or that hate is the focus of anyone. We do know that Fox news and OAN are in the practice of talking that way.  They mention hate during their programming 5x more than any other msm outlet. That reality shows in the language of those who routinely rely upon those outlets for information. 

I hope that you can endure as well as you endured the Obama presidency.  You didn't lose you guns, you can still worship as preferred and  we still have a military. Going forward you will hopefully have to endure improvements to our health system, a corrected tax code, affordable education and interest in protecting our environment. 

[toomuchbaloney]

5 minutes ago, myoglobin said:

Again, we disagree about evidence of voter fraud (I believe it was confined to several key battleground states).  Still a little less than half of Americans believe the same of you as you do us.  However, at the end of the day your side won and we lost (even if we believe there was fraud, we still lose). Thus, the issue goes back to the title of the thread how "we" (the losing side) deal with the issue of losing. The World turns no matter who is right or wrong.

We may disagree but your opinion is based in fantasy. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud.  Millions of Americans, like you, are believing the rants of a habitual liar.  There's no evidence of that which Trump claims.  You've been conned and it's a danger to our republic. 

No, it actually does matter that republicans and Trump devotees are advocating the overthrow of the presidential election. It does matter that they tried to usurp the ballot counts and then the electoral college votes. Where's your patriotism?

[MunoRN, RN]

11 minutes ago, myoglobin said:

Again, we disagree about evidence of voter fraud (I believe it was confined to several key battleground states).  Still a little less than half of Americans believe the same of you as you do us.  However, at the end of the day your side won and we lost (even if we believe there was fraud, we still lose). Thus, the issue goes back to the title of the thread how "we" (the losing side) deal with the issue of losing. The World turns no matter who is right or wrong.

What 'evidence of voter fraud' are you referring to?

[myoglobin, ASN, BSN, MSN]

45 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

What 'evidence of voter fraud' are you referring to?

There has been a plethora of statistical analysis, and things like the video tape evidence in Georgia to name but two examples. I am sure you would not consider these credible, but that is not the point. About half of America (and most of the people who voted for Trump do). This thread is mainly about how "we" (the one's who lost) best deal with the fact that the very image of everything we oppose (and in many cases detest as an ideology) now controls the levers of power.  Had "my guy" won  (fairly or by fraud as was alleged by Hillary and many of her supporters) then the question would b how "your side" could deal with the same issues. However, you prevailed and we lost.

[toomuchbaloney]

4 minutes ago, myoglobin said:

There has been a plethora of statistical analysis, and things like the video tape evidence in Georgia to name but two examples. I am sure you would not consider these credible, but that is not the point. About half of America (and most of the people who voted for Trump do). This thread is mainly about how "we" (the one's who lost) best deal with the fact that the very image of everything we oppose (and in many cases detest as an ideology) now controls the levers of power.  Had "my guy" won  (fairly or by fraud as was alleged by Hillary and many of her supporters) then the question would b how "your side" could deal with the same issues. However, you prevailed and we lost.

The fact that none of the examples you have provided actually evidence widespread voter fraud IS the point.  The fact that millions of Trump supporters believe the lie rather than the evidence most certainly is important.  The reality that too many Trump supporters believe that lying, cheating or violence is the way to retaining power for Trump is dangerous.  

Clinton conceded in a timely and appropriate fashion.  

Biden prevailed and Trump lost.  Neither Trump nor his devotees are ready to accept that and that will be very dangerous and counter productive.