How often does this happen

nutella, MSN, RN · Mar 30, 2016

How common is it for the RNs to not getting writen up for behavior issues such as not listening to the provider and basically almost causing danger to patient ? My SO works at hospital and has mentioned it's fultile to explain to some nurses what not to do because they do the opposite when they feel they do not trust the provider but unfortunately it has repercussions and for patients health at times yet the RN does not get reprimanded. So now he will have a rapid response nurse go show the RNs what to do or what they need to do because he said its not worth the fight for him. They won't listen.

Based on your other 2 threads it sounds that you are not a nurse but interesting in stirring the pot a bit .. trolling around?

roser13, ASN, RN · Mar 30, 2016

How common is it for the RNs to not getting writen up for behavior issues such as not listening to the provider and basically almost causing danger to patient ? My SO works at hospital and has mentioned it's fultile to explain to some nurses what not to do because they do the opposite when they feel they do not trust the provider but unfortunately it has repercussions and for patients health at times yet the RN does not get reprimanded. So now he will have a rapid response nurse go show the RNs what to do or what they need to do because he said its not worth the fight for him. They won't listen.

Sounds like an interesting scenario to discuss......with the person who can give a first-hand account. Why are you posting and your "SO" is not?

Been there,done that, ASN, RN · Mar 30, 2016

How common is it for the RNs to not getting writen up for behavior issues such as not listening to the provider and basically almost causing danger to patient ? My SO works at hospital and has mentioned it's fultile to explain to some nurses what not to do because they do the opposite when they feel they do not trust the provider but unfortunately it has repercussions and for patients health at times yet the RN does not get reprimanded. So now he will have a rapid response nurse go show the RNs what to do or what they need to do because he said its not worth the fight for him. They won't listen.

SO cannot tell other nurses what to do.. or not to do. SO needs to butt out .. and so do you.

SnowShoeRN · Mar 30, 2016

I don't understand why you're posting. Yes some nurses aren't inclined to listen to certain doctors if the doctors give them bogus advice or orders or if the doctor is greatly disrespected. But the relationship between nurses and providers is a checks and balances kinda thing. We question each other for patient safety. There are plenty of times I haven't done what doctors have told me and it's been in the best interest of the patient. Sometimes orders they provide aren't appropriate because the orders or procedures themselves could put the patient in danger.

I can't advise you on the repercussions of nurses not listening to your SO without specifics. What's the SBAR? What were the orders? Why weren't they given? What happened?

Why isn't your SO posting? Wouldn't he/she get more out of asking us directly then you asking for him/her?

mmc51264, BSN, MSN, RN · Mar 30, 2016

the scenario is too vague. What type of setting? Is SO a charge nurse? That would be the only way SO would have a say in something.

On a side note, I would never disobey an order or do something out of scope without an order. There are other remedies. I work in a teaching hosp so if it is a resident issue, there is always someone higher to go to.

Horseshoe, BSN, RN · Mar 30, 2016

the scenario is too vague. What type of setting? Is SO a charge nurse? That would be the only way SO would have a say in something.
On a side note, I would never disobey an order or do something out of scope without an order. There are other remedies. I work in a teaching hosp so if it is a resident issue, there is always someone higher to go to.

I would most certainly "disobey" an order if it was wrong, dangerous, an obvious mistake, etc. I'd call the doc, tell him my objections, and listen to his answer. One doc (not a resident) ordered something IV that given the patient's status and vitals, was not something I was willing to do. I spoke to the doctor, and he said "just give it." I told him "YOU give it." He stormed into the unit, saw the patient, and thought better of his "order."

Penelope_Pitstop, BSN, RN · Mar 30, 2016

Just an FYIzzle...

Nurses do not obey doctors' orders.

Nurses do not even FOLLOW doctors' orders.

Nurses CARRY OUT doctors' orders when they are appropriate

Nurses have their OWN practice act, their OWN licensing boards.

Nurse Leigh · Mar 30, 2016

How common is it for the RNs to not getting writen up for behavior issues such as not listening to the provider and basically almost causing danger to patient ? My SO works at hospital and has mentioned it's fultile to explain to some nurses what not to do because they do the opposite when they feel they do not trust the provider but unfortunately it has repercussions and for patients health at times yet the RN does not get reprimanded. So now he will have a rapid response nurse go show the RNs what to do or what they need to do because he said its not worth the fight for him. They won't listen.

Looked back at your previous posts/threads and wonder if you also go under the name Velarey here? Looks like you responded to one of your threads with this name and was a little confused.

Penelope_Pitstop, BSN, RN · Mar 30, 2016

Looked back at your previous posts/threads and wonder if you also go under the name Velarey here? Looks like you responded to one of your threads with this name and was a little confused.

*puts on Sherlock Holmes cap*

..off to investigate...

Jensmom7, BSN, RN · Mar 30, 2016

the scenario is too vague. What type of setting? Is SO a charge nurse? That would be the only way SO would have a say in something.
On a side note, I would never disobey an order or do something out of scope without an order. There are other remedies. I work in a teaching hosp so if it is a resident issue, there is always someone higher to go to.

Her SO is an Internist (and I only learned this from reading her other threads). As such, it isn't his duty to discipline nurses, if they even need to be disciplined. It may be a case of the nurses don't trust him to do the right thing.

Nurse Leigh · Mar 30, 2016

*puts on Sherlock Holmes cap*
..off to investigate...

Look here

https://allnurses.com/general-nursing-discussion/nurses-medical-provider-999876.html