How many unvaccinated coworkers are you aware of?

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How have you expressed your displeasure about their choice? Are you questioning why they have not been terminated yet?

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8 minutes ago, RJMDilts said:

(Is that the CDC?) Well, if so, they don’t have the market cornered and may I say they have not been the model of consistency on all things COVID.

CDC, NIH, JAMA, NEJM, Lancet, etc...there is general agreement among the credible experts. I understand that people who don't understand scientific process find it confusing when new data results in different strategies or messaging. That's why it's important for educated health professionals to redirect conversations away from the suspicion and toward the facts.  The facts say that the vaccines are safe and effective and they are the most economical pathway to the end of the pandemic. 

 

15 minutes ago, RJMDilts said:

Even those coveted boosters are not recommend for the GENPOP but only for a targeted audience per the FDA. In fact, all of those physicians I alluded to are vaccinated. That said, they are split when it comes to the mandate. They are also, almost to a person, in favor of looking at ALL options, including what other countries are doing, as well as the data from those other countries. Look at Iceland and Israel. What is happening in those heavily vaccinated countries? Especially Iceland, where I personally lived for 3 years. Very isolated and heavily vaccinated. How’s that working out? AGAIN, I support the vaccine 100%. But Not a mandate on it.

Why do you assume that health professionals advocating for vaccinating are neglecting or ignoring data from other countries? Whether or not you personally agree with employer mandates of vaccination, the evidence demonstrates that employer mandates work to increase vaccination rates among the employees and community.  That is the public health objective; to increase vague uptake in communities. 

18 minutes ago, RJMDilts said:

Are you kidding me?? It is downright vitriolic and to pretend otherwise is to bury one’s head in the sand. Disagree respectfully but to hope people are fired? To belittle people for their beliefs? That is B.S. 

I don't hope people are fired but I do hope that they get vaccinated so that they are not fired.  I do understand that employers have that right to protect their staff, their patients and their legal liability by setting infection control standards for staff.  I didn't belittle anyone and those adamantly opposed to vaccination are quite frequently rude when encountered in public settings...they often don't like masking either in my general region.

  I'm not certain why choosing to prolong a pandemic and take personal risks because of some extremist belief system shouldn't deserve some public mocking.  Their choice is antisocial.

25 minutes ago, RJMDilts said:



Again, healthcare workers can work safely w/o being vaccinated as proven for over a year prior to the vaccine. 

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4 hours ago, RJMDilts said:

1.Points well made. That said, if there are no staff there to spread it, it won't spread either. 

2.Of course the vax is cheaper than testing. BUT, the vax does NOT stop the spread in its tracks, so it is not the be all, end all. It does not even provide 100% protection for the person receiving it. It does mitigate the effects to a great degree which is why I 100% support people getting it and tell my adult family and friends to get vaccinated. I do not and will not ridicule and berate them or co-workers who do not as it is not beneficial. 

1.??? love that! 

2. HELLO! For a while now people having been trying to give guilt trips to the unvaccinated and call them selfish as if they alone are responsible for spreading. 

It becomes evident this is less about understanding and encouraging vaccination rather looking for reasons to vilify others and feel empowered. 

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27 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

It becomes evident this is less about understanding and encouraging vaccination rather looking for reasons to vilify others and feel empowered. 

What became clearly evident quite sometime ago is that a good number of these threads and comments are simply intended to further the confusion, suspicions and fears of the unvaccinated.  That certainly is empowering for a few members. 

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16 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

What became clearly evident quite sometime ago is that a good number of these threads and comments are simply intended to further the confusion, suspicions and fears of the unvaccinated.  That certainly is empowering for a few members. 

LOL toomuchbaloney should run for office. He would win.. He's a smooth talker LOL

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On 9/17/2021 at 12:44 PM, subee said:

Uhhhhh.  Because I want to protect myself from getting Covid and would take measures against unnecessary exposure.

I feel like it’s been created to divide us further,and I agree if you choose to not vaccinate that it not my buisness  however,because we are in the field of taking care of vulnerable people we have an obligation to protect them from becoming sicker.Particularly when dealing with children who are unable to vaccinate.

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21 minutes ago, RKM2021 said:

LOL toomuchbaloney should run for office. He would win.. He's a smooth talker LOL

I've held several elected positions. It required me to listen to people that I didn't agree with and taught me to and stick to facts and evidence to inform my opinions. That served me very well in my long nursing career over several disciplines. 

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1 hour ago, jive turkey said:

1.??? love that! 

2. HELLO! For a while now people having been trying to give guilt trips to the unvaccinated and call them selfish as if they alone are responsible for spreading. 

It becomes evident this is less about understanding and encouraging vaccination rather looking for reasons to vilify others and feel empowered. 

I would hope we continue on the path of supporting each other,solid points when different perspectives are thrown in it becomes blurry.The vaccine does seem to work as stopping severe symptoms (6mos) which I am well past that and it sounds like our anti-bodies have dropped.So we are in a lot of trouble if  some haven’t and some only had 1. But yea the Israel thing is unsettling for sure! Are we delaying the inevitable? Maybe more focus on symptoms? I’m rather burnt out and ready to transition but to what?…#hatethiscovid 

3 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I've held several elected positions. It required me to listen to people that I didn't agree with and taught me to and stick to facts and evidence to inform my opinions. That served me very well in my long nursing career over several disciplines. 

Kudos for sticking it out 40 years!Im so done!Put a fork in me!LOL?

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How many unvaccinated coworkers are you aware of?

How many? Over half my department (OBGYN), this includes providers and RNs. 

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Just now, queenanneslace said:

How many unvaccinated coworkers are you aware of?

How many? Over half my department (OBGYN), this includes providers and RNs. 

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Oh, how selfish of them!! I can't believe that they are allowed to breath the air let alone work in healthcare.....Only kidding. I am sure they have the same level of care, concern, compassion and competence with or without the vaccine, considering they worked without it for almost a year. God Bless them

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2 minutes ago, RJMDilts said:

Oh, how selfish of them!! I can't believe that they are allowed to breath the air let alone work in healthcare.....Only kidding. I am sure they have the same level of care, concern, compassion and competence with or without the vaccine, considering they worked without it for almost a year. God Bless them

Well, they appear to be risking their jobs with their choices. Think of how caring and compassionate to patients they'll be while they're unemployed.
 

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9 hours ago, RJMDilts said:

BUT, the vax does NOT stop the spread in its tracks, so it is not the be all, end all. It does not even provide 100% protection for the person receiving it.

As opposed to all of the other vaccines that provide 100% protection? Vaccines do not need to be (nor will ever be) 100% effective. It is irrefutable to argue that covid vaccines are not incredibly effective at reducing both illness and M&M, at least over the 12 months we have data on, and against numerous variants.  

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8 hours ago, RJMDilts said:

I brought it up because of the multitude of physicians who have, not because of my knowledge. 

Why do you think physicians have a vaccination rate 75% of while nurses are at 56%?

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