working on your BSN? I'm only asking this because the BSN curriculum has so many more classes (in my expereince because I've been to both - I'm on my 6th college), and the classes are more difficult. For instance, before you can even start my first nursing clinical course at my university you need to have a minimum of 2.9 B- in the following courses:
General Biology II
General Chemistry
College Algebra
Psychology
Organic Chemistry
Biological Chemistry
Human Anatomy Lecture
Human Physiology Lecture
Human Physiology Lab
Cadaver Lab
Developmental Psychology
Junior level Writing
Senior level Writing
Microbiology
Microbiology Lab
Human Genetics
Explorations in Nursing
Self-Health and Wellness
Clinical Nutrition (basically another bio-chem class)
Basic Pathophysiology
Not to mention the general education classes.
So, not to piss anyone off, but when I see "I have a 4.0 gpa", I'm always wondering if it was just the three prerequisits you had to take at your community college or if you had to take all the classes I had to take before even getting accepted into your nursing program. I'm very proud of my 2.9 gpa considering the very difficult classes I had to take.:chair:
So to Jen...Are you asking us if our GPA starts to drop because we get so burnt out on taking SO MANY classes, additional classes?
Yes, I am.
As I posted twice in this thread I suppose my 4.0 gpa started dropping once I started at my current university because of the level of the classes I am taking. At the cc's (three I've been to) they were mainly just gen ed classes. So, I've corrected what I said about the CC classes being easier twice.
Ok, now I understand. Every CC is different when it comes to what is available. At my CC, since we have so many Uni profs teaching there, we get a wider range of classes. I can take almost all of my BSN classes at the CC. There are 4 different Bio's., Chems, etc and each one is geared towards something different (being Bio, Nursing, non bio majors)
I have noticed my GPA slip since I started in on the science courses but I'm in with the norm at my school when it comes to that.
If no one cared, no one would post that they earned a 4.0. They SHOULD be very pround of their grades and should be able to post about how proud they are of themselves and SHOULD be able to receive support from others on this board.
I think you misunderstood what I was saying.
I got the feeling that hoppermom was not feeling like she was getting any support. When I said who cares what anyones GPA is, I ment who cares, I'll support you whether it's a 2.0 or 4.0, it dosn't matter as long as your doing whats best for you, you'll get my support.
...saying the classes at a CC are easier than a University is not entirely true. I have attended both (a good private university, at that) and must say that the classes were no more difficult than the ones I take at the CC. As a matter of fact, some were easier!
FWIW, obtained my masters (3.96 GPA) more than a decade ago from a nationally recognized university in Philly.
The A / P I class I took last term at a local CC was as tough as any in the above program. (Had to bust my butt big-time to earn that "A-.")
I don't know if you were being facetious in your first post here or what. You mentioned that some people were calculating their gpa based on "the three prerequisits you had to take at your community college". I am currently at a community college finishing up my ADN, and can assure you that there is much more than 3 prereqs for the nursing program. I had to take all the classes you listed PLUS sociology and a humanities class along with all the other general ed requirements. I had a 4.0 before getting into the nursing program... but now it is down to about 3.7 (with all the classes combined). To get into this nursing program we all had to have a 3.0 and up as well as not having anything less than a B in ANY of our prereqs. Some students were able to get into this program if they had one C in a class, but they were put into a lottery system and usually would not get in. I am not working on my BSN now because out here in California, the pay is exactly the same regardless of your degree status. In fact, our ADN program is almost as long as the BSN program (when you factor in all the gen ed crap classes), but includes much more clinical time. It seesm the only reason a BSN would be necessary is if you were interested in working as a manager or in administration.
It's a lot different studying body parts instead of writing papers and doing math, isn't it?
Comments like this bother me. When I was in college, the first time around, I was at a school the was bio, engineering and computer science strong...I however was a communications major and constantly was told my major was much easier than other.
I think that's a crappy way to think. Just because the majority of my classes were about writing papers dosn't mean it was easy. As one of my prof said first day of class, I can't teach you how to be a writer, you will know when you are one. And he was right (I also found I didn't need the degree to be a writer so that's why I droped).
There is no room for superiority in the world. ADN, BSN, LPN, RN. we're all shooting for the same goal.
Also, I did find my grades slip with the A&P classes because this isn't what I'm best at. It's what I want so I will do my best.
I don't know if you were being facetious in your first post here or what. You mentioned that some people were calculating their gpa based on "the three prerequisits you had to take at your community college". I am currently at a community college finishing up my ADN, and can assure you that there is much more than 3 prereqs for the nursing program. I had to take all the classes you listed PLUS sociology and a humanities class along with all the other general ed requirements. I had a 4.0 before getting into the nursing program... but now it is down to about 3.7 (with all the classes combined). To get into this nursing program we all had to have a 3.0 and up as well as not having anything less than a B in ANY of our prereqs. Some students were able to get into this program if they had one C in a class, but they were put into a lottery system and usually would not get in. I am not working on my BSN now because out here in California, the pay is exactly the same regardless of your degree status. In fact, our ADN program is almost as long as the BSN program (when you factor in all the gen ed crap classes), but includes much more clinical time. It seesm the only reason a BSN would be necessary is if you were interested in working as a manager or in administration.
Nope, not being "facetious". It really surprises me if you really had to take Human Genetics, Clinical Nutrition, and Pathophysiology as a prereq. Sociology here is a gen.ed class and so are the humanities. We not only have to complete many, many gen ed classes but we also have to complete a Theme at our school. I have read MANY posts on this board stating that they only had to take 3 classes for prerequisits for an ADN program, some said they only had to take a test.
It seesm the only reason a BSN would be necessary is if you were interested in working as a manager or in administration.
Another reason for the BSN degree may be to have that bachelor's degree which is needed to get a more advanced nursing degree later on, for example to become a nurse practitioner.
Nope, not being "facetious". It really surprises me if you really had to take Human Genetics, Clinical Nutrition, and Pathophysiology as a prereq. Sociology here is a gen.ed class and so are the humanities. We not only have to complete many, many gen ed classes but we also have to complete a Theme at our school. I have read MANY posts on this board stating that they only had to take 3 classes for prerequisits for an ADN program, some said they only had to take a test.
I don't ever remember reading this.
I think you mean that ppl had to have 3 courses completed to apply to the program then complete the rest of the pre reqs while taking core nursing classes. I know of several schools that let you start as a freshman taking the basic nursing funds courses all while completing your pre reqs. I don't know of any school that requires only a test to get in?????
Comments like this bother me. When I was in college, the first time around, I was at a school the was bio, engineering and computer science strong...I however was a communications major and constantly was told my major was much easier than other.
I think that's a crappy way to think. Just because the majority of my classes were about writing papers dosn't mean it was easy. As one of my prof said first day of class, I can't teach you how to be a writer, you will know when you are one. And he was right (I also found I didn't need the degree to be a writer so that's why I droped).
There is no room for superiority in the world. ADN, BSN, LPN, RN. we're all shooting for the same goal.
Also, I did find my grades slip with the A&P classes because this isn't what I'm best at. It's what I want so I will do my best.
What is your problem???? Excuse me! So, I found science classes much more difficult than writing papers. So, basically every post I write, you're going to find a problem, right??
What is your problem???? Excuse me! So, I found science classes much more difficult than writing papers. So, basically every post I write, you're going to find a problem, right??
I think you need to calm down. I was speaking from experience at another school. Also, I don't have a problem with every post. I even agreed with you that grades slip as classes get harder. I was also saying that I find science classes much harder than writing papers but it use to make me made when my friends who where computer science majors would makes comments like that.
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Ok, now I understand. Every CC is different when it comes to what is available. At my CC, since we have so many Uni profs teaching there, we get a wider range of classes. I can take almost all of my BSN classes at the CC. There are 4 different Bio's., Chems, etc and each one is geared towards something different (being Bio, Nursing, non bio majors)
I have noticed my GPA slip since I started in on the science courses but I'm in with the norm at my school when it comes to that.