working on your BSN? I'm only asking this because the BSN curriculum has so many more classes (in my expereince because I've been to both - I'm on my 6th college), and the classes are more difficult. For instance, before you can even start my first nursing clinical course at my university you need to have a minimum of 2.9 B- in the following courses:
General Biology II
General Chemistry
College Algebra
Psychology
Organic Chemistry
Biological Chemistry
Human Anatomy Lecture
Human Physiology Lecture
Human Physiology Lab
Cadaver Lab
Developmental Psychology
Junior level Writing
Senior level Writing
Microbiology
Microbiology Lab
Human Genetics
Explorations in Nursing
Self-Health and Wellness
Clinical Nutrition (basically another bio-chem class)
Basic Pathophysiology
Not to mention the general education classes.
So, not to piss anyone off, but when I see "I have a 4.0 gpa", I'm always wondering if it was just the three prerequisits you had to take at your community college or if you had to take all the classes I had to take before even getting accepted into your nursing program. I'm very proud of my 2.9 gpa considering the very difficult classes I had to take.:chair:
I have read MANY posts on this board stating that they only had to take 3 classes for prerequisits for an ADN program, some said they only had to take a test.
The confusion is that all of us ADN folks refer to Co-reqs as pre-reqs. If you were to look at our programs, it would look as if you take all of your general ed. and science courses concurrently with your nursing courses. Thus you would get your ADN in two years (what one would expect it to take for an Associates Degree). However, due to the shortage of nursing schools and intense competition, you must take your co-reqs as pre-reqs.
There were 300 people vying for 70 slots at my school this semester. So those that have not taken all or most of their "co-reqs" did not get in. I have 4 "co-reqs" left (A&P2, Dev. Psch. aka Hum. Growth & Dev, Speech Communications, and Ethics & Morals).
Also minimum GPA to apply (after all those science courses) was a 3.0. But, I'm sure the actual cutoff was much higher than that due to the competition.
All that I know is that by the time I was done with nursing and received my ADN I had 96 college credits....I subsequently went back and have gained 9 more toward my BS in Health Promotion..I am on hiatus now doing other things and certifications but sheesh..I must be getting close to a BS in something?? LOL
Our required classes in addition to nursing were
English x 2
soc
psych
ethics
math
speech
statistics
micro bio
inorganic chem
organic chem
biological chem
anatomy
physiology
PE
nutrition
I graduated with a 3.98 cum but I really worked my a** off. At one point I had thought about CRNA which was part of the reason why..the other reason was that I tend to be an "over achiever type A person" It was great to realize I had it in me since I grad HS with a 2.5..course I over achieved in "socialization" there!! I did it for me and only me..I heard the comments about geez...you are so smart blah blah blah..who cares? We had a 100% pass rate on the NCLEX (those of us that were left)..we are all nurses..we are all unique and we all have our reasons for giving "whatever" our all. erin
All that I know is that by the time I was done with nursing and received my ADN I had 96 college credits....I subsequently went back and have gained 9 more toward my BS in Health Promotion..I am on hiatus now doing other things and certifications but sheesh..I must be getting close to a BS in something?? LOL
Our required classes in addition to nursing were
English x 2
soc
psych
ethics
math
speech
statistics
micro bio
inorganic chem
organic chem
biological chem
anatomy
physiology
PE
nutrition
I graduated with a 3.98 cum but I really worked my a** off. At one point I had thought about CRNA which was part of the reason why..the other reason was that I tend to be an "over achiever type A person" It was great to realize I had it in me since I grad HS with a 2.5..course I over achieved in "socialization" there!! I did it for me and only me..I heard the comments about geez...you are so smart blah blah blah..who cares? We had a 100% pass rate on the NCLEX (those of us that were left)..we are all nurses..we are all unique and we all have our reasons for giving "whatever" our all. erin
Wow, I think you're right. You should be very close to a bachelor's with all of that (at least the bachelor's programs I'm familiar with).
I too may go the CRNA or other advanced degree route, so I've been striving for the best grades possible. I want those kinds of options to be available down the road if I decide to pursue them. Afterall, I don't think they let you go back to nursing school just to improve your grades, and who would want to do that anyway? :chuckle
I don't know if I'm 100% correct here or not, but at the uni that has a BSN program, nursing majors do not start their core nursing classes until their junior year (or halfway through their sophomore year). At my CC, "theorectically" you can start your nursing classes in the second quarter. This never happens though because of waiting lists, etc. And, frankly, even if there wasn't a waiting list, you'd have to be NUTS to take all those classes together.
I think the only "pre-req's" for the nursing classes at our CC are Chemistry, CNA certification, the NLN exam, Psychology, Intro to healthcare, Anatomy & Physiology I, Interpersonal Communications, and English Composition I. The others can be taken as "co-req's", etc.
The only difference in gen ed classes is that the BSN program requires a few other classes like a literature class and a non-western culture or religion class. I've already taken all of those "gen eds" when I was getting my Bachelors Degree a few years back, so I don't have to take hardly any gen eds at my CC, and if/when I want to go on to an RN-BSN program, I will only have to take 3-4 additional classes (biochemistry or organic chemistry, and some advanced nursing theory classes).
CarVsTree
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The confusion is that all of us ADN folks refer to Co-reqs as pre-reqs. If you were to look at our programs, it would look as if you take all of your general ed. and science courses concurrently with your nursing courses. Thus you would get your ADN in two years (what one would expect it to take for an Associates Degree). However, due to the shortage of nursing schools and intense competition, you must take your co-reqs as pre-reqs.
There were 300 people vying for 70 slots at my school this semester. So those that have not taken all or most of their "co-reqs" did not get in. I have 4 "co-reqs" left (A&P2, Dev. Psch. aka Hum. Growth & Dev, Speech Communications, and Ethics & Morals).
Also minimum GPA to apply (after all those science courses) was a 3.0. But, I'm sure the actual cutoff was much higher than that due to the competition.
Hope this clears it up.