working on your BSN? I'm only asking this because the BSN curriculum has so many more classes (in my expereince because I've been to both - I'm on my 6th college), and the classes are more difficult. For instance, before you can even start my first nursing clinical course at my university you need to have a minimum of 2.9 B- in the following courses:
General Biology II
General Chemistry
College Algebra
Psychology
Organic Chemistry
Biological Chemistry
Human Anatomy Lecture
Human Physiology Lecture
Human Physiology Lab
Cadaver Lab
Developmental Psychology
Junior level Writing
Senior level Writing
Microbiology
Microbiology Lab
Human Genetics
Explorations in Nursing
Self-Health and Wellness
Clinical Nutrition (basically another bio-chem class)
Basic Pathophysiology
Not to mention the general education classes.
So, not to piss anyone off, but when I see "I have a 4.0 gpa", I'm always wondering if it was just the three prerequisits you had to take at your community college or if you had to take all the classes I had to take before even getting accepted into your nursing program. I'm very proud of my 2.9 gpa considering the very difficult classes I had to take.:chair:
What is your problem???? Excuse me! So, I found science classes much more difficult than writing papers. So, basically every post I write, you're going to find a problem, right??
I think you're probably acting a little bit overly defensive.
Difficulty is all relative. We all have our own strengths and weaknesses to contend with - some are better at math, some are better at writing, etc etc etc. :)
I think you mean that ppl had to have 3 courses completed to apply to the program then complete the rest of the pre reqs while taking core nursing classes. I know of several schools that let you start as a freshman taking the basic nursing funds courses all while completing your pre reqs. I don't know of any school that requires only a test to get in?????
This was posted a few days ago by someone:
"And not GPA (other than passing all classes with at least a 2.0) or how many other classes you've completed? I'm starting to think my school is unusual. It's solely based on NET score (top 100 passing scores get into the program). The only classes that are required BEFORE entering the program are Bio, Chem (which is waived if you've already completed Micro), Algebra and CNA. And they accept college OR high school Bio and Chem. Our school is really designed to be a 2 year program, with A&P and Micro as recommended classes to take concurrently with the nursing classes.
I would like to read the whole post but I can't find it on the board. It also sounds like this person is a little confused about what to do so I don't know how creditable this post is.
I got the feeling that hoppermom was not feeling like she was getting any support. When I said who cares what anyones GPA is, I ment who cares, I'll support you whether it's a 2.0 or 4.0, it dosn't matter as long as your doing whats best for you, you'll get my support.
I think you're probably acting a little bit overly defensive.
Difficulty is all relative. We all have our own strengths and weaknesses to contend with - some are better at math, some are better at writing, etc etc etc. :)
I'm being defensive. Well, I'm sorry! I'm being jumped on with every post I write. Oh! I forgot! It's just me!
Nope, not being "facetious". It really surprises me if you really had to take Human Genetics, Clinical Nutrition, and Pathophysiology as a prereq. Sociology here is a gen.ed class and so are the humanities. We not only have to complete many, many gen ed classes but we also have to complete a Theme at our school. I have read MANY posts on this board stating that they only had to take 3 classes for prerequisits for an ADN program, some said they only had to take a test.
In response to JENRN2BMICHIGAN:
I don't know how you do it up in Michigan, but in California we cannot take our PREreqs as COreqs. At this time, ALL the classes have to be done in order to get into nursing school due to previous yrs of students not being able to fit those lingering classes into the schedule and not completing them. I took genetics, clinical nutrition (it is called Nutrition and Food Science at my school)and pathophys as well. I think i stated that clearly in my first email in response to you. As for you being surprised...Life is full of surprises. Hey you learn something new everyday. That is how the ADN program is done here in this part of California. Not every nursing school is the same. But, California is anal about everything, so that could be why we have way more than just 3 classes to take to get INTO program.
PS I am not trying to push your buttons, just clarifying.
Nope, not being "facetious". It really surprises me if you really had to take Human Genetics, Clinical Nutrition, and Pathophysiology as a prereq. Sociology here is a gen.ed class and so are the humanities. We not only have to complete many, many gen ed classes but we also have to complete a Theme at our school. I have read MANY posts on this board stating that they only had to take 3 classes for prerequisits for an ADN program, some said they only had to take a test.
In response to JENRN2BMICHIGAN:
I don't know how you do it up in Michigan, but in California we cannot take our PREreqs as COreqs. At this time, ALL the classes have to be done in order to get into nursing school due to previous yrs of students not being able to fit those lingering classes into the schedule and not completing them. I took genetics, clinical nutrition (it is called Nutrition and Food Science at my school)and pathophys as well. I think i stated that clearly in my first email in response to you. As for you being surprised...Life is full of surprises. Hey you learn something new everyday. That is how the ADN program is done here in this part of California. Not every nursing school is the same. But, California is anal about everything, so that could be why we have way more than just 3 classes to take to get INTO program.
PS I am not trying to push your buttons, just clarifying.
All the classes I listed in my first post are PREreques too. I'm thinking that Nutrition and Food Science (sounds like a cooking class??) are not the same thing. I don't know, maybe they are. Mine was like a Biological Chemistry class, just more advanced as BioChem is a prerequisit for Clinical Nutrition. Sounds like your school is as tough as mine!
Thats funny!! nutrition and food science does sound like cooking class. But actually it isnt. Its really chemistry, but related to metabolic processes and vitamins and all that stuff. It also goes into what a normal person should have for intake, vs pregnant and ill people.
That's 13 courses, and it usually takes most people two years to complete all of them.
Just FYI.
In Virginia, our prereqs for the ADN program are Psychology, Sociology, English 111 and 112, 3 different maths, Humanities, Chemistry, and Biology. We don't have to have Phys Ed or Micro, though Micro is necessary to attain a BSN. Don't have to take Speech either. California must be rough!
Well, the general ed is pretty easy, just time consuming busy work.
The science courses are very tough, but they really want to prep you really well with courses like Physio before you hit nursing school. I think the failure rate is something like 80 percent in the science pre-reqs.
Part of the reason for that is the schools have to maintain a 70 percent NCLEX pass rate for their grads. And they've been getting extra money to create more slots, and they want to make sure it's not wasted. So they try to weed out as many people as possible beforehand.
I remember when I took anatomy, we started off the semester with 70 students. The last week of school we only had 13!!! NO JOKE!! So many people dropped the class due to many reasons, but most of the people i know that dropped the class said it was due to a low grade and they wanted to try and take it over.
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I think you're probably acting a little bit overly defensive.
Difficulty is all relative. We all have our own strengths and weaknesses to contend with - some are better at math, some are better at writing, etc etc etc. :)