Nursing Students General Students
Published Oct 22, 2007
We are almost done with our first quarter, (A &P and Fundamentals/Skills); at least 12 of my classmates (out of 45 at the start) are about to drop out due to failing grades. How many did you lose after the first term?
pkohm
19 Posts
Something that needs to be remembered here is that colleges and universities are first and foremost businesses........they need to generate profits. So yes they will lower their requirements and yes they will accept students that the year before weren't considered "qualifiable". It all depends on the bottom line and the amount of money that a peticular college can generate. Be it business, computer science, or even nursing. After that then it's the curriculum that will weed them out. So basically what is good for this year may change next year.................
Although i agree with this for the most part, you also have to remember than being a buisness they want to appear better. It's like a TV company making a cheap TV with bad color/short life. More people will buy it, but the brand will be remembered for making inferior products and no one will want to buy their stuff. Schools are the same.. if your statistics show high drop outs/low passing rates at the end and on exams it makes the program and school look bad. Look at some of the really nice universities out there, they have much much lower first year drop out rates than lower level state or local schools. Nursing school is the same people will say "they got 95% Nclex passing rate!" and who wouldnt want to go there lol? Not, "3/4 of the people drop by the 3rd semester" you'd be like "um... let me rethink this place" lol.
omni
13 Posts
News from Norway:My class started with 138 (which was over admission capacity) and now in the 3rd semester out of 6 we are down to 100. Unfortunately, I don't think failing is the problem here. The administration is a mess and the requirements are low. You can pass a test with an E here. Imagine that folks, they invented an extra letter in the grading system just so more people could pass. Disappointed American
My class started with 138 (which was over admission capacity) and now in the 3rd semester out of 6 we are down to 100. Unfortunately, I don't think failing is the problem here. The administration is a mess and the requirements are low. You can pass a test with an E here. Imagine that folks, they invented an extra letter in the grading system just so more people could pass.
Disappointed American
Are you serious? I hope you realise that most of Europe have this system. It is not so more people can pass it is so that you get more variations in the grading. You still fail by the same precentage. It just so the divide between a B and a C, or A and B, won't be that big.
I understand that you think the American grading system is better, but I can tell from experience that an A in America is very easy and an A in Norway is not! so there :-)
SarasotaRN2b
1,164 Posts
Oops, thought poster were comparing schools in US vs. Norway, when it was actually Norway vs. Norway. Sorry.
eldragon
421 Posts
We started with 26 and will graduate next week with 9.
MLMRN1120
128 Posts
Our first semester is almost over:lol2: (ADN program)..I think one girl from my theory is gone, and today, on our second-to-last day of clinical, another girl got sent home as soon as we got onto the floor. It's sad, I'm curious to see how many we will end up with by next year.
tigereyeskp
18 Posts
After the second semester of our ADN program, we lost between 10 and 15 people.
And in my experience, there seem to be some book smart nursing students who do really well on theory tests but who are just god-awful on the floor during clinicals. That is why I think nursing school is so tough-- it's not about learning and regurgitating the information. It's applying the information that you learn to real life situations. That's why pre-reqs cannot even compare! You are overwhelmed from day one with clinicals, skills, check offs, labs, careplans, papers, theory, reading assignments, ATI, required DVDs to watch, online materials,.... and at some point you gotta eat and sleep and take care of the kids, bills, job, family, whatever.
And for our program, you have to pass OB and Med/surg separately.
My friend who didn't pass second semester could not have studied any harder. She is a great nursing student on the floor and knows her information very well. But our med/surg final was brutal. It came out of left field. Four questions nailed her and she will be repeating.
Becca123183
35 Posts
Started with 37 and lost 6 before the end of the first quarter (2 yr ADN program). I am curious to see how many we lost after the final..the new quarter starts in a week so i guess i'll find out then. We lost one to a medical problem, one b/c all of his previous credits wouldnt transfer, 2 decided nursing wasnt for them, another decided to go to law school instead, and 1 flunked out.
Meriwhen, ASN, BSN, MSN, RN
4 Articles; 7,907 Posts
We've lost four voluntarily...well, not necessarily voluntarily--some of them didn't want to leave but had to withdraw for personal reasons. But they didn't fail out.
Three failed the last class we had. Two of them had already failed once before, so they're out of the program. The other one is repeating the course.
ETA: I made an error: only one of the students had failed twice. So it's two that are repeating the last course we had.
tachybradyRN
369 Posts
Just finished my first year, this past semester we started with 30 and lost 6 or 7.
mb1949
402 Posts
We started with 60 students and after two semesters we are down to 22--I just talk to 3 classmates who failed this semester so that makes 19 if this keeps up we will graduate about 10 students, this is the hardest thing I have ever done, I have an associates in paralegal studies and I breeze through that, but NS oh my goodness this is something else
casi, ASN, RN
2,063 Posts
We started out with 60 students, we just finished our first semester and according to our new clinical schedule we lost 7 students.
SummerGarden, BSN, MSN, RN
3,376 Posts
Out of 41 students who started with me three semesters ago, my class has lost 18 so far.:stone