Published Apr 24, 2013
tsm007
675 Posts
I usually stay to the student section, but really needed feedback from more people and experienced nurses for this one. I was recently given a timed assessment. I had difficulty completed this in the allotted time. My husband asked me if the amount of time they gave us was even reasonable. Not being an experienced nurse I am not sure so with that I am wondering if you could give me a ballpark idea of how long it would take you to complete the following skills. I am listing all the possible skills in our simulation versus describing the simulation as I do not want any accusations of sharing too much information from the test if other students might be reading. If you could list the time that it takes you to perform each skill I would greatly appreciate it.
I think those were all the choices. Thanks for your feedback (and admins if you feel this should stay to the student section please message me so I know for future reference).
Tait, MSN, RN
2,142 Posts
blondy2061h, MSN, RN
1 Article; 4,094 Posts
Preop checklist- About one minute. A lot of it is automated in the computer
Preop assessment- 5 minutes
Postop assessment- 5 minutes-15 minutes if I need help turning and such
Calling report/receiving report from the OR- 5 minutes if they answer
Inserting a Foley Catheter- 15 minutes. More if it's a women with a lot of excessive tissue or a man with a large prostate
Starting IV, hanging fluids to gravity, and starting drip rate (we were allowed to just verbalize the intended drip rate- I rarely start IVs and I haven't calculated a drip rate since nursing school. Maybe 15 minutes including gathering supplies
Starting a blood transfusion- 15 minutes including contacting blood bank, getting tubing ready and primed with saline, pre-vitals, checking for pre-med orders, and double verifying with another RN. Not including time waiting for blood to arrive, administering pre-meds if ordered, and hunting down another RN.
DC foley- 3-5 minutes not counting bladder training if ordered
Convert IV to saline lock-30 seconds
Sterile dressing change- this varies dramatically on what you're doing the dressing on. I've had quick 5 minute ones and ones that approach an hour
Trach suctioning- again, varies dramatically. If suction is already set up and not counting cleaning the cannula and the secretions aren't really thick- maybe 5-10 minutes? If the above situations are reversed you can be looking at more like a half hour
I'm looking forward to reading what others say. Even outside the project context this could be an interesting discussion.
Double-Helix, BSN, RN
3,377 Posts
Thank you three for replying. This was very helpful to me and I appreciate it.
SwansonRN
465 Posts
Preop checklist- Sorry I don't typically work with surgical patients, so I'm not really familiar with this documentation!
Preop assessment- Again, don't really get surgical patients. My assessments usually take 10-15 minutes, but my patients usually have a lot going on. Documenting takes a lot longer (new computer system ugh!)
Postop assessment- See above.
Calling report/receiving report from the OR- 5-10 minutes I'd say. I usually give longer reports than I receive.
Inserting a Foley Catheter- 5 minutes unless it's a difficult cath.
Starting IV, hanging fluids to gravity, and starting drip rate 10 minutes unless they have wonderful veins.
Starting a blood transfusion- From getting the order to actually holding the blood in your hands it can take 30 minutes or more. Once I have it getting it checked, verified, and documented takes about 2-3 minutes. Hanging it takes a minute we don't prime with NS, just blood tubing.
DC foley- 30 seconds
Convert IV to saline lock-15 seconds
Sterile dressing change- There's a great deal of variability on this one!
Trach suctioning- A minute or two.
loriangel14, RN
6,931 Posts
I don't think that these types of questions are realistic. If I have an obese elderly confused patient I am not going to get a catheter in her very quickly.I have done sterile dressing changes that took over an hour.If you are inexperienced/student you are going to take much longer. Of course you get quicker with experience.What's the point of making someone feel inadequate by setting unrealistic time parameters?
nrsang97, BSN, RN
2,602 Posts
^^^ Exactly!
It can take me a long time to get an IV in someone depending on their vascular status. Some people are much easier to get an IV in than others.
Thank you. I also don't think it is realistic that we are given timed skills test and really struggling with failing because I am not fast enough. It adds an incredible amount of stress trying to complete these skills being timed and to be honest I have seriously considered switching schools. It just means waiting and starting over.
julz68
467 Posts
We were never timed in our skills in NS. This seems pretty unfair. We were just validated on if we had sterile technique, knew what we were doing and if we were being safe. Like a couple PPs have said, every patient is different as far as inserting Foley's and IVs. Even very experienced nurses can have a hard time doing these tasks. Where I work, we have 3 tries on Foley's and/or IVs...if we can't get it, we have to call the supervisor or urology for Foley's and the PICC team for IVs.
Goodness! I'm glad my school wasn't as tough as yours on skills! Holy cow!
I can see where timing might be helpful. It doesn't sound like the OP is performing these skills on a real patient. It sounds like they are being done in a lab using mannequins. If that's the case, you can eliminate all the extra time that a difficult patient might cause. Spending 20 minutes inserting a foley in a plastic urethra might indicate that the student is not ready to perform the skill in practice. But OP didn't specify the situation or how much time was being allotted, so it's difficult to know whether the timing serves a real purpose.
OCRN3
388 Posts
Also if you have never seen the paperwork before, how are you supposed to fill it out of you have more questions? I think most of these times posted are accurate for a nurse whose been around in the same floor for a few years. No way can a student complete then in those times listed. Imo
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