How to best handle this situation with my instructor?

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Hello everyone,

So I have encountered a situation where there was probably a misunderstanding between me and my instructor at the clinical today. Two days into the clinical, my instructor assigned everyone’s duty each day. Some were assigned med pass, some were assigned to look after two patient, I was assigned to one patient today.

One hour drive to the clinical site at 5 a.m gave me a brain fart during the first hour into the clinical.

1) My instructor wanted us to wait outside of an assigned room while waiting for the nurse to arrive. Apparently, I didn’t hear that part so I followed my nurse to each patient’s room instead of waiting outside the room of my patient.

2) After my mind started to clear a little bit, I wanted to assess my patient so I rushed into his room while he was seating on the bedside commode… My instructor did try to stop me but I honestly just focusing on my patient so I didn’t hear her, again.

3) During downtime, I asked my nurse if she needs help with anything. She said she’d love me to help her with medication because she was falling behind. So I asked my instructor if I can pass med so she can supervise me. She said she had many people to look after so she’d be too busy to let me pass meds - since I was not on the schedule for med pass. My understanding of the schedule was - it’s mandatory to pass med if you are on med pass day, if not then it’s optional - so I’d ask for permission first. I didn’t know that means “ absolutely not ”. Anyways, it wasn’t like she was busy - she was chatting with another instructor who’s in charge of another cohort on a different floor for 30 minutes straight. I meant you get paid to teach us, not to chat.

Anyways, at the end of the clinical, we had a conference. She addressed the above issues to everyone and avoid looking at me. I knew she was talking about me. She also said she’d write comments on the clinical feedback and all we need to reply was to admit the mistake we made, nothing else needed. It seems like she is not interested in an explanation. I possibly gave her the impression of being standoffish and not following the instruction. But honestly…I just didn’t know. For my clinical feedback, she wrote, " Did ok communication with staff but need to let the nurse know before giving the med & follow instructions given". Well, my nurse knew I was giving meds and there's no miscommunication between me and the nurse so IDK why you said that.

I felt like I came off a little clumsy and missed the window to explain my brain fart mistakes. But should I explain myself a little on a weekly journal that I am about to turn in? For clinical feedback, I plan on just admit my mistakes as she asked me to. I’d like to know your guys' opinion on how to best handle this situation. Much appreciated.

Like other posters have said, every clinical instructor is different and like it or not, you have to do what they want. It will do you no good to complain about it or wonder about his/her motivations. Again, like another poster mentioned, chatting with another nurse may not be the waste of time or gossiping you perceive it to be. They might be trying to figure out if there are any good learning opportunities and "gossip" may also be their way of finding out which RN's are good with students and which ones aren't.

There are important things to remember:

1. If your instructor says no to passing meds, it is a HARD NO. I have worked in multiple hospitals and have seen clinicals where a student only passes meds with their instructor and I've been in situations where I had a student assigned to me and was responsible for for them passing meds. Having to be responsible for a student that I DON"T KNOW makes me crazy. It puts me way behind. I have a lot of empathy for the student because they are there to learn but MY responsibility is to the PATIENT not the student. I try really hard to teach them, but the way I see it, that is the instructors job, not mine. (At my school students only gave meds w/ the instructor). There is a lot of teaching opportunity with med passes. Someday you will understand this. But for now, when the instructor says no, then it is no.

2. All this talk about "brain farts" .... this is an excuse. You are an adult, take responsibility for your lack of awareness. I am not trying to be mean here, I am trying to be real. You cannot use "brain farts" and " I wasn't awake yet" when you are someone's nurse and you miss critical VS or make a med error. If you have to turn in journal, please don't make excuses. It shows much more maturity to take responsibility for your actions.

3. It seems like she wrote "needs to follow instructions" because you didn't follow instructions. You said yourself that you went into a room after being told not to. Not hearing = not paying attention- and that is on you.

Clinical is not easy, it isn't always intuitive and you will mess up. We all do, just own up to it when it happens.

I had a scary instructor who we were all convinced was out to fail someone every semester (I lost 5 lbs every clinical weekend because she make me so anxious that I couldn't eat & my GI tract speed up...) and some instructors that I thought were total flakes. I had to suck it up and do what they said.

Best of luck!

Specializes in ICU/community health/school nursing.

Please understand, and I say this with love: Every single answer above is accurate and you should take the previous posters' wisdom to heart -even if you do not like the answers.

You explaining yourself won't change anything. Clinicals are essentially black and white. You did (or did not) follow instruction.

Give yourself a little more time in the mornings. If you are confused, ask for clarification. And although it sucks eggs, realize that the clinical instructor is in charge, and this is temporary. When you are a practicing RN you'll be done with all this! Eye on the prize.

Thanks guys, I will just not to “explain” and let it go. Will try to be more attentive and prepared in the future clinical.

Specializes in Urgent Care, Oncology.

Honestly, if you read this board you will see nursing students who were dismissed for a lot less. So I'd count yourself lucky that it didn't happen to you. You should let this go & follow other's advice - show up to clinical ready to go & take your medication. I'd be cautious with this instructor for the rest of the semester. You have to remember that nursing can be a small world and the impression you make even as a student can affect your ability to be hired (or not) in the future. Clinicals are not only opportunities to learn but also can be informal job interviews. If you stick out like a sore thumb chances are you'll be remembered in the future.

Start practicing for life as an RN now. Nursing school goes quick, and before you know it you will be the one in charge of patients and your own licence. Nursing school shelters you and typically keeps you in your comfort zone.

Own up to things you feel were not professional. You can demonstrate good growth by tackling your shortcomings.

Your clinical instructor was very kind.

Best of luck!

Specializes in Tele, ICU, Staff Development.

Luckily, as others said, your instructor did not discipline you. You have an opportunity for damage control.

Avoid making so many excuses for yourself, because that ultimately backfires.

I hope you will tell your instructor you appreciate her feedback, and wish to improve your performance. Check in with her frequently to make sure you're on the right track.

Best wishes

On 3/21/2019 at 2:21 PM, snowlion_m said:

Yes indeed I was not focused in the first hour because I didn’t take my ADD med on that day. I had to force myself to focus.

Here comes the “is wasn’t my fault because” excuses...

i think if you would just be more Humble and accepting of your mistakes the posters and your instructor would be a lot more pleasant and not come down on you as “hard”. By hard I mean the blunt truth you are receiving.

Drop the denfensiveness and lack of taking responsibility for your actions NOW while your still early in the program.

On 3/22/2019 at 11:02 AM, snowlion_m said:

Thanks guys, I will just not to “explain” and let it go. Will try to be more attentive and prepared in the future clinical.

I commented before I saw this post. I admire your change in attitude. This will help you a lot in the long run. You’ve received some great advice. Best of luck with clinical, let us know how it goes ?

Specializes in Wound Care, Med-Surg, Rehab.
On 3/21/2019 at 10:44 AM, snowlion_m said:

First of all, I need to clarify that I did NOT end up giving med on that day because I didn’t get the permission. So I did not violate anything. Your whole response was based on an assumption of me DID give the med.

You said in your post “Well, my nurse knew I was giving meds and there's nomiscommunication between me and the nurse so IDK why you said that.”

So did you, or did you not pass meds that day?

Specializes in Wound Care, Med-Surg, Rehab.
On 3/21/2019 at 10:44 AM, snowlion_m said:

First of all, I need to clarify that I did NOT end up giving med on that day because I didn’t get the permission. So I did not violate anything. Your whole response was based on an assumption of me DID give the med.

You state in your post “Well, my nurse knew I was giving meds and there's nomiscommunication between me and the nurse so IDK why you said that.”

so did you, or did you not pass meds that day?

27 minutes ago, Iheartwoundcare said:

You said in your post “Well, my nurse knew I was giving meds and there's nomiscommunication between me and the nurse so IDK why you said that.”

So did you, or did you not pass meds that day?

It means my nurse knew I was going to give meds to her patients if my instructor granted permission. So no, at the end of the day I didn’t give meds.

27 minutes ago, Iheartwoundcare said:

You said in your post “Well, my nurse knew I was giving meds and there's nomiscommunication between me and the nurse so IDK why you said that.”

So did you, or did you not pass meds that day?

Specializes in corrections and LTC.

You have an excuse for everything, you accept no personal responsibility. You don't take your own meds but feel that you are responsible enough to give patients' meds? You use the excuse that driving an hour to school made you have brain fog, what about using this hour to wake up? I understand wanting to assess your patient in a timely manner, but not only did you not listen to your instructor when she told you to wait outside of the room, but you gave the patient no privacy, no dignity.

I have been a health administrator for years. If a nurse makes a mistake and accepts responsibility for it, we can work through it. If a nurse makes a mistake and is full of excuses, that makes me wonder how many other mistakes he/she made that I don't know about and that he/she did not accept responsibility for. I am not as likely to work with this nurse as I am the one that accepted responsibility for their mistake.

It is not your concern what your instructor does or how she spends her time. It is only your concern to do what you are supposed to do as a nursing student. As many mistakes as you made that day, you have no right to make comments about her talking with another nursing instructor.

You got started on the wrong foot. Take responsibility, take the time while driving to get yourself focused, and listen. You have the opportunity to have a great career in front of you. Many applicants didn't even get accepted to nursing school - so take a deep breath, stop blaming others and making excuses, and move forward.

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