holistic healer

zenman · May 10, 2005

Nope, not normal. Report this guy immediately to the massage board.

rn,lmt · May 10, 2005

Frann, Absolutely, positively, this is wrong! This guy not only needs reported to the massage board but you need to report him to the police. He molested you! Call today before this happens to other people. This kind of jerk gives professional massage therapists a bad name!

leeleigh

frann · May 10, 2005

Are you'll sure? here's what his pamplet says.

private wellness sessions:

assessment of the wholebody, mind, and soul, followed by energy balancing and guidance for a personalized wellness program. depending on personal needs, a combination of the following healing techniques are applied:

reiki, QiGong, internal exercises, guided imagery, reflexology of the feet, ear and hands, Tui Na treatment, spiritual healing, meditation, modern stretching and natural breathing exercises.

It doesn't say he is a massage therapist, says he is a certified reiki teacher and a holistic healing practitioner. he has a Ph.D(a.b.d.)for university of chicago.

It said in his release form that some things may make you feel uncomfortable.

UM Review RN, ASN, RN · May 10, 2005

Uncomfortable?!

How about "Illegal?"

I agree. Call the cops, the Board, whoever you can think of to call. :angryfire

I'm so sorry this happened to you.

rn,lmt · May 10, 2005

Frann,

Start by calling the police. They will take your statement and then do an investigation of this jerk. His degree may be from some bogus place that issues degrees for $15.00. Anyway, even if he does have a degree he can still be a pervert. Call the authorities today and inform them of what happened. Don't wait and DON'T BE A VICTIM of this person. He is not a healer, he is a cancer.

renerian, BSN, RN · May 10, 2005

I was doing fine until I read about the breast part no it is not normal at all. That happened to me with a PT one time and grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, it gives us all a bad name and reputation........

renerian :angryfire

TouchRN · May 10, 2005

Please understand that his behavior was totally inappropriate and should not be dismissed!!

Don't feel bad about what happened. You were taken advantage of and you trusted this practioner. You had no frame of reference as to what is acceptable.

You should take action, ie: police, or better business burea, board (if he is even with a board) perhaps licensing with the local muni. And if you feel brave enough, have your husband ( or yourself) call this person and let them know that you felt taken advantage of and call him on his inappropriate behavior.

The others are right. If he did it to you, he does it to others. Action on your part could save someone else from this problem.

Most states have laws about proper draping of the breasts on females and they should be adhered to. Practioners should not be present during dressing and undressing. Your privacy should be honored and he should knock before entering the room.

Also in the future, it is up to you, when you see a new person, to ask questions and make sure you are comfortable with the services being offered and that you feel safe. That should be your new responsibility.

Good luck and let us know what happens.

I am so sorry you had this experience and I hope you can learn from this and help others avoid a similar situation.

"Being" in touch

Marty

frann · May 16, 2005

I did call him up and request my money back. I had signed up for his exercize class-before I went to his session. I told him that I thought it what he did was inappropriate and I didn't feel comfortable there. He sent my money back promptly. I did talk to my husband about it. though not in detail. We have a lot going on with the house right now. He's finishing the basement, and we are getting the house ready to sell. I just told him that I went to this massage place and that the guy was inappropriate. He didnt ask more. He can be very protective. He doesn't even like for me to shop at night by myself.

ineedleu · May 21, 2005

Hi!

Please report this guy. Maybe you are mature enough to overcome the molestation, but his next victim may suffer more.

I'll bet this guy has a rap sheet for molestation. Many women advertise for massage who are really prostitutes. This guy is the male version of the same thing. The cops typically will send an undercover cop and bust him. Massage as a ruse for sexual encounters is extremely common.

The legitimate ones will be licensed by the state or town/city that they are in. Usually certified by the NCBMT and a member of a professional organization.

Ask to see ther license and credentials next time. You will have better luck if you have someone refer you to a practitioner, instead of going to someone cold. If you don't know anyone, try a female therapist. By the way, reiki doesn't typically involve touch. It's energy work.

Hope you get this guy out of circulation.

Good luck.

Sue

talaxandra · May 22, 2005

Hi Frann,

I have massages every two weeks, from an accredited massage therapist who is a prominent member of his organisation. He leaves the room before I get changed, I am draped except for the area of my body that he's working on, and he has never touched my breasts of abdomen.

Until a couple of years ago he was president of his association, and has testified for the prosecution in cases where 'therapists' like yours have been tried. Some of these 'therapists' tell their clients that both the client and the practitioner must be naked, to 'diminsh our boundaries.' One of them did 'internal massage' to relieve back pain. In all the cases clients felt uncomfortable but were reluctant, for a variety of reasons, to report the 'therapist'.

here are my concerns with what you wrote:

1) you felt uncomfortable

2) there's advanced warning that you might feel uncomfortable, with an implication that this is something you should ignore

3) he caressed your breasts

4) he watched you get dressed

5) he told you not to tell your husband

6) he charged you a reduced rate

7) he refunded your money without protest

What you describe is sexual assault. You didn't invite it, and you didn't consent to it, regardless of what his brochure described. Call the police, anonymously if you wish. You won't have been the first woman he's assaulted like this, and you certainly won't be the last unless he's stopped.

Good luck

CharlieRN · Jun 8, 2005

Every one is right you have been sexually molested under the guise of "therapy". My only suggestion is that you might get better results by telling your husband and letting him get a few friends together to pay this bozoo a visit. This guy is just a quack, a medical fraud. He is offering no valid therapies at all.

private wellness sessions:
assessment of the wholebody, mind, and soul, followed by energy balancing and guidance for a personalized wellness program. depending on personal needs, a combination of the following healing techniques are applied:
reiki, QiGong, internal exercises, guided imagery, reflexology of the feet, ear and hands, Tui Na treatment, spiritual healing, meditation, modern stretching and natural breathing exercises.

With the exception of guided imagery, (a psychological technique), meditation, stretching, there is not one scientificly verified "therapy" in the whole list! It's just a collection of new age "buzz words". You put yourself in the hands of the medical equivalent of a witch doctor. No, that slanders honest witch doctors.