HCA StaRN contract

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Jul 2, 2020

59 minutes ago, kmdsby said:
Is anyone willing to say why they are quitting HCA?

For-profit healthcare organization with minimal staffing, unsupportive of employees.

kmdsby · Jul 9, 2020

thanks. I have offer from one non-profit and HCA. HCA pays more so I was wondering. Currently both offers are in same city and both keep pushing date for cohort to start because of Texas COVID rates going up.

mursegoals, BSN, RN · Aug 25, 2020

I work in the Dallas area for HCA. I was an Extern for a year, then signed a 2 year contract for their nurse residency. I recently quit after 5 months. I found a better, higher paying job in the field I want to be in. I was honest with my boss, put in my 2 weeks, and left on good terms with my nursing manager. Due to COVID, I did not receive hardly any of the training I was promised. I had 15 different preceptors for 12 weeks. My last PTO check was garnished for $1,400. When I called HR they directed me to HCA HR Answers. HR Answers let me know I owed $5,900 for the remainder of my work schedule agreement. Legally, I can’t really fight it, I just feel that’s a pretty scumbag thing to do as a company. Especially to an internal hire during COVID times. Also, HCA received literally tens of millions of dollars in bailouts from the White House for stabilization funds. I have yet to receive a letter from Benefit Recovery Group but am expecting it soon. I just wonder if it will hit me credit if I don’t pay it.

chempansy · Sep 7, 2020

Are you guys located in Texas? If so, which are the best hospitals to work? I’ve looked this up but I get mixed reviews. The ones that typically come up are Memorial Hermann, Houston Methodist, St Joseph etc. I’d like to have an idea where I would be better off applying towards the end of nursing school. Especially ones with residency programs.

Krissypoo12, ADN, ASN, RN · Oct 2, 2020

On 5/17/2020 at 10:11 AM, Ayeeewoods said:

I’m also about to quit . Please let me know how this goes !!

Did you quit the contract? What happend

mursegoals, BSN, RN · Oct 2, 2020

I received my letter from Benefit Recovery Group last week. About 2 months after I quit. Trying to find out if they will report to credit agency.

Krissypoo12, ADN, ASN, RN · Oct 3, 2020

1 hour ago, mursegoals said:

I received my letter from Benefit Recovery Group last week. About 2 months after I quit. Trying to find out if they will report to credit agency.

How long where you in the staRN program?

mursegoals, BSN, RN · Oct 3, 2020

I was not in StaRN. HCA is not doing StaRN any longer in DFW from what I heard. I was actually an internal hire. I was a nurse Extern for a year then signed a 2 year work agreement internship program. I left after 5 1/2 months. They billed me 5900 dollars.

erica1223 · Oct 3, 2020

On 4/18/2020 at 8:37 PM, dreday13 said:

Hello,

I know HCA recently changed their reimbursement policy for continuing education this past year. I was going for my RN to BSN online, and had to take a year off. When I started school again, I read their changed reimbursement policy which was stating that I had to commit to two years of work. If I left before those years, I owed the amount of money that was reimbursed, back to HCA. However, before this, I had already worked for HCA for 8 years and I don't recall their previous reimbursement policy requiring nurses to work for them afterward. I was hoping there was some sort of "grandfathered" policy for people like me, but apparently there isn't. So when I did return to school, I decided not to apply for their "reimbursement". If I happen to leave HCA in the next year or so, I wonder if they will say I owe them back as well. I know this doesn't help answer your question, but I do feel like HCA does not look out for their employees or staff, so I'm not surprised they're trying to go after you for this.

Hope you find someone who can help you get out of this...

Did you use the HCA grant for school? Did you break that contract?

I plan on using the HCA direct pay for school to get my BSN, but I'm concerned about the two year contract and what happens if I break it. Will they make me pay it all back or partial and will thy allow a payment plan?

allnurses Guide · Oct 5, 2020

There is an important lesson to be learned here which is never sign a contract without fully understanding the terms and penalties. The essence of contract law is that all parties agree to everything within the four corners of the document being signed. You simply can't sign a contract with the idea that you can get out of it later or decide to quit your end of the contract without accepting the penalty for doing so.

This is why I always ask for a copy of the contract when I get a job offer. I then tell the prospective employer that I need 48 hours to have my attorney review the contract and an opportunity to request contract revisions.

I had an employer tell me that the offer was contingent on my passing a UDS within 24 hours of the offer. I said I would have to see that in writing because my acceptance of the offer was contingent upon dertminantion that the contract was fair and legal. They actually hired me with contract revisions and I worked there for a year and left with severance.

Remember that they are not just interviewing you. You are also interviewing them. Do not lock yourself into a contract that obligates you to thousands of dollars in debt if things don't work out or you have to leave the job due to an unforseen emergency.

Hppy

Sierra Engle · Oct 22, 2020

I quit at an HCA hospital 2 months ago and just received a letter from the Benefit Recovery Group requesting over $6,300. Over 10 nurses and more than 4 CNAs left our floor in the span of 4 months because of the burn out and unsafe patient/staff ratios. Unfortunately I was the first person to leave that was still in their 2 year contract, so the others that left after me have not received a letter yet. Our floor had almost 30 falls this year in only 6 months and some nights our CNAs were getting 17 patient. It was scary and frustrating, especially as a new grad who just signed a 2 year contract. I am able to pay the money but I really do not want to since I would have stayed but had to leave because of the conditions. I called the Benefit Recovery Group and they said if I paid the fine in full then they would lower the amount to $5,600. I am suppose to call in tomorrow to pay it, but after seeing this thread I am curious if anyone else ignored the letters and if it affected their credit score or anything else? I am in Utah and quit at St. Mark’s hospital.

Krissypoo12, ADN, ASN, RN · Oct 22, 2020

1 hour ago, Sierra Engle said:

I quit at an HCA hospital 2 months ago and just received a letter from the Benefit Recovery Group requesting over $6,300. Over 10 nurses and more than 4 CNAs left our floor in the span of 4 months because of the burn out and unsafe patient/staff ratios. Unfortunately I was the first person to leave that was still in their 2 year contract, so the others that left after me have not received a letter yet. Our floor had almost 30 falls this year in only 6 months and some nights our CNAs were getting 17 patient. It was scary and frustrating, especially as a new grad who just signed a 2 year contract. I am able to pay the money but I really do not want to since I would have stayed but had to leave because of the conditions. I called the Benefit Recovery Group and they said if I paid the fine in full then they would lower the amount to $5,600. I am suppose to call in tomorrow to pay it, but after seeing this thread I am curious if anyone else ignored the letters and if it affected their credit score or anything else? I am in Utah and quit at St. Mark’s hospital.

Was your contract worth $6300?