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HCA StaRN contract

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by babiwang6 babiwang6 (New) New Nurse

Has 2 years experience.

Hello, I'd like to open a discussion about HCA and the contract that they make you sign when you go through their residency program for nurses. I quit a month or so ago, and I got the letter where they are asking for the money back. I contacted a lawyer because I know of someone who got a out, talked to a lawyer and was not required to pay anything back. However, due to the coronavirus the lawyer is taking forever to get back to me (social distancing, doing everything through email and phone). Has anybody have experience with this and got out? I appreciate the help.

Nell002

Specializes in PACU/ED. Has 11 years experience.

Hello,

I know HCA recently changed their reimbursement policy for continuing education this past year. I was going for my RN to BSN online, and had to take a year off. When I started school again, I read their changed reimbursement policy which was stating that I had to commit to two years of work. If I left before those years, I owed the amount of money that was reimbursed, back to HCA. However, before this, I had already worked for HCA for 8 years and I don't recall their previous reimbursement policy requiring nurses to work for them afterward. I was hoping there was some sort of "grandfathered" policy for people like me, but apparently there isn't. So when I did return to school, I decided not to apply for their "reimbursement". If I happen to leave HCA in the next year or so, I wonder if they will say I owe them back as well. I know this doesn't help answer your question, but I do feel like HCA does not look out for their employees or staff, so I'm not surprised they're trying to go after you for this.

Hope you find someone who can help you get out of this...

Ayeeewoods

Specializes in PACU. Has 2 years experience.

I’m also about to quit . Please let me know how this goes !!

Hi all! Sorry this is a little off topic, but I'm curious why you're quitting. I was thinking about applying to the program. Can you provide any insight about the program?

Hope you get the answers you're looking for!

Jedrnurse, BSN, RN

Specializes in school nurse. Has 29 years experience.

19 minutes ago, knicole729 said:

Hi all! Sorry this is a little off topic, but I'm curious why you're quitting. I was thinking about applying to the program. Can you provide any insight about the program?

Hope you get the answers you're looking for!

If you do an AN site search for all the posts concerning HCA, you'll find a lot of reading to make you think.

I've never worked for them, but after everything I've heard about them, I never would.

1 hour ago, Jedrnurse said:

If you do an AN site search for all the posts concerning HCA, you'll find a lot of reading to make you think.

I've never worked for them, but after everything I've heard about them, I never would.

Thanks so much for the tip!

On 4/7/2020 at 1:30 AM, babiwang6 said:

Hello, I'd like to open a discussion about HCA and the contract that they make you sign when you go through their residency program for nurses. I quit a month or so ago, and I got the letter where they are asking for the money back. I contacted a lawyer because I know of someone who got a out, talked to a lawyer and was not required to pay anything back. However, due to the coronavirus the lawyer is taking forever to get back to me (social distancing, doing everything through email and phone). Has anybody have experience with this and got out? I appreciate the help.

Hello! I would like to know which hospital you worked and and where? I have had many friends break the contract and not have to pay. I am also wanting to break it but scared I will have to pay.

Sayisisntso

Has 11 years experience.

On 4/7/2020 at 2:30 AM, babiwang6 said:

Hello, I'd like to open a discussion about HCA and the contract that they make you sign when you go through their residency program for nurses. I quit a month or so ago, and I got the letter where they are asking for the money back. I contacted a lawyer because I know of someone who got a out, talked to a lawyer and was not required to pay anything back. However, due to the coronavirus the lawyer is taking forever to get back to me (social distancing, doing everything through email and phone). Has anybody have experience with this and got out? I appreciate the help.

I quit after a few months into the program, got the repayment letter today. Did you hire an attorney? If so was it a contract attorney? I'm going to start calling attorneys this week, I don't want this going into collections..

Hi babiwang6, were you able to find an attorney? Were you able to get out of the contract without paying? I’m in the same situation and need help finding an attorney. Thanks!

babiwang6

Has 2 years experience.

5 hours ago, dco123 said:

Hi babiwang6, were you able to find an attorney? Were you able to get out of the contract without paying? I’m in the same situation and need help finding an attorney. Thanks!

I did find an attorney. He told me that the contract is illegal in some states, but unfortunately not the one I live in (Texas). He said my best bet was to try to get a payment plan. To be honest I did not get a lot of help from him. I have talked to other nurses who were part of the same cohort as me, and they quit either before or after me. Nobody has received letters or calls asking from HCA about the money. I am the only one in my cohort who has. Also, one of the nurses who quit got $5k relocation money and she has not been asked to pay it back nor pay the $10k for breaking the contract. I just thing it's odd that some people are forced to pay and other aren't. I know about someone who used to work at my unit and quit right away, apparently she chose not to pay, but I do not know what was the outcome.

One thing that the lawyer mentioned is that the amount is out righteous (I agree) and the contract doesn't even explain how they came up with the amount. It just says "we estimate". If any of you have more information about people who didn't pay let me know.

Ayeeewoods

Specializes in PACU. Has 2 years experience.

I recently quit .. how long did it take them to ask for the money ?

what location are you in Texas and what hospital ?

Is anyone willing to say why they are quitting HCA?

NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion. Has 44 years experience.

59 minutes ago, kmdsby said:

Is anyone willing to say why they are quitting HCA?

For-profit healthcare organization with minimal staffing, unsupportive of employees.

thanks. I have offer from one non-profit and HCA. HCA pays more so I was wondering. Currently both offers are in same city and both keep pushing date for cohort to start because of Texas COVID rates going up.

mursegoals, ADN

Specializes in Surgical Oncology/Mental Health/Addictions. Has 1 years experience.

I work in the Dallas area for HCA. I was an Extern for a year, then signed a 2 year contract for their nurse residency. I recently quit after 5 months. I found a better, higher paying job in the field I want to be in. I was honest with my boss, put in my 2 weeks, and left on good terms with my nursing manager. Due to COVID, I did not receive hardly any of the training I was promised. I had 15 different preceptors for 12 weeks. My last PTO check was garnished for $1,400. When I called HR they directed me to HCA HR Answers. HR Answers let me know I owed $5,900 for the remainder of my work schedule agreement. Legally, I can’t really fight it, I just feel that’s a pretty scumbag thing to do as a company. Especially to an internal hire during COVID times. Also, HCA received literally tens of millions of dollars in bailouts from the White House for stabilization funds. I have yet to receive a letter from Benefit Recovery Group but am expecting it soon. I just wonder if it will hit me credit if I don’t pay it.

Are you guys located in Texas? If so, which are the best hospitals to work? I’ve looked this up but I get mixed reviews. The ones that typically come up are Memorial Hermann, Houston Methodist, St Joseph etc. I’d like to have an idea where I would be better off applying towards the end of nursing school. Especially ones with residency programs. 

On 5/17/2020 at 10:11 AM, Ayeeewoods said:

I’m also about to quit . Please let me know how this goes !!

Did you quit the contract? What happend

mursegoals, ADN

Specializes in Surgical Oncology/Mental Health/Addictions. Has 1 years experience.

I received my letter from Benefit Recovery Group last week. About 2 months after I quit. Trying to find out if they will report to credit agency.