Have you ever worked with someone who had such a nasty attitude that it was almost hostile

Horseshoe, BSN, RN · Mar 11, 2016

All of you here are so unsupportive!
Bullies are by no means tolerated. This is lateral violence! If the manager you reported this to does nothing about it then go up the chain of command. Make a big fuss and say you feel threatened. Bullying is not tolerated anymore. You folks here are insane! I have worked in a hospital 18 years and the people that were bullies always ended up out the door. Report them to corporate compliance and if that still doesn't work then they don't deserve a great nurse like you.

Please show where the OP said anything about being "threatened." She thought the nurse was not nice. That's completely subjective. She needs objective data about unit violations. Saying a nurse made her "feel" unwelcome doesn't cut it.

And calm down, no one here is "insane" just because they don't agree with how she handled a situation.

FutureRNN · Mar 11, 2016

Be more supportive and a person with a nasty attitude is a bully. Please go somewhere else with that subjective stuff. No one here is assessing a patient!

Horseshoe, BSN, RN · Mar 11, 2016

Be more supportive and a person with a nasty attitude is a bully. Please go somewhere else with that subjective stuff. No one here is assessing a patient!

I don't have to go "anywhere." I can say whatever I dang well please here as long as it's not against TOS.

I don't have to be "supportive" about actions with which I disagree. And "subjective" is not good enough when one is trying to get another person disciplined or fired.

CrunchRN, ADN, RN · Mar 11, 2016

Many times. Calls for a little finesse.

roser13, ASN, RN · Mar 12, 2016

All of you here are so unsupportive!
Bullies are by no means tolerated. This is lateral violence! If the manager you reported this to does nothing about it then go up the chain of command. Make a big fuss and say you feel threatened. Bullying is not tolerated anymore. You folks here are insane! I have worked in a hospital 18 years and the people that were bullies always ended up out the door. Report them to corporate compliance and if that still doesn't work then they don't deserve a great nurse like you.

Lol! Lateral violence? Please!

One shift with a bad-tempered co-worker does not in any way, shape or form equal lateral violence. Someone here needs to have some real-world experience before expressing opinions.

What exactly would you have OP "report"? Eye rolls? Sighs? Attitude?

Go right ahead and report those subjective observations. Expect to be placed on the "target to be let go" file.

macawake, MSN · Mar 12, 2016

All of you here are so unsupportive! .......
You folks here are insane!

Could you please dial down the aggression a notch? I'm feeling bullied

OP, yes I have encountered unpleasant coworkers in nursing as well as in my previous career.

I fear you might have acted with ill-considered haste in this instance. First of all, how do you want people to handle a conflict with you? Would you prefer that they approached you first with their opinions/feelings and give you an opportunity to resolve the issue or would you be fine with them going directly to your superior?

I'm a chess player and I find that treating work/my career like a game of chess is a good strategy. I always try to anticipate/plan three or four moves ahead. What were you hoping would be the outcome when you went over your superior's head? How likely do you estimate that outcome is?

I hope that thing's work out for you but if I'm honest I think that you might be in for a bit of a challenge.

springchick1, ADN, RN · Mar 12, 2016

All of you here are so unsupportive!
Bullies are by no means tolerated. This is lateral violence! If the manager you reported this to does nothing about it then go up the chain of command. Make a big fuss and say you feel threatened. Bullying is not tolerated anymore. You folks here are insane! I have worked in a hospital 18 years and the people that were bullies always ended up out the door. Report them to corporate compliance and if that still doesn't work then they don't deserve a great nurse like you.

Oh please! This person In no way threatened the OP (who conveniently disappeared). Rolling your eyes at someone is not threatening them or even being hateful. Please explain to me how this is lateral violence. I think you have a lot of learning to do.

roser13, ASN, RN · Mar 12, 2016

Be more supportive and a person with a nasty attitude is a bully. Please go somewhere else with that subjective stuff. No one here is assessing a patient!

FutureRN does not = nurse. Come back when/if you gain some experience and can offer appropriate & applicable opinions.

Prior to that time, open your eyes & ears as to how the real world operates. Special Snowflakes do not live long here.

And exclamatory, defensive posts about nonsense issues do not bode well for your future.

TriciaJ, RN · Mar 12, 2016

All of you here are so unsupportive!
Bullies are by no means tolerated. This is lateral violence! If the manager you reported this to does nothing about it then go up the chain of command. Make a big fuss and say you feel threatened. Bullying is not tolerated anymore. You folks here are insane! I have worked in a hospital 18 years and the people that were bullies always ended up out the door. Report them to corporate compliance and if that still doesn't work then they don't deserve a great nurse like you.

Maybe the mean nurse needed a shot to the side of the head. Would it be supportive of us to tell the OP to do that? No one is saying Mean Nurse is in the right. But if OP is that quick to go to battle with all guns blazing, she is going to have a rough and short career.

Some of us think it's more supportive to help someone navigate a situation without shooting herself in the foot.

Cowboyardee · Mar 12, 2016

All of you here are so unsupportive!
Bullies are by no means tolerated. This is lateral violence! If the manager you reported this to does nothing about it then go up the chain of command. Make a big fuss and say you feel threatened. Bullying is not tolerated anymore. You folks here are insane! I have worked in a hospital 18 years and the people that were bullies always ended up out the door. Report them to corporate compliance and if that still doesn't work then they don't deserve a great nurse like you.

No offense, Future, but have you worked in nursing yet (and not just elsewhere in a hospital)? I don't think it works quite the way you do. If you go nuclear and try to get your coworkers fired through corporate over nothing when your unit director doesn't support you, no one will trust you and your unit director will be looking to can you or ship you elsewhere the first chance she gets. She might sink you when your next job offer calls for a report as well.

There are two basic problems with the OP's post:

1 - Did the cranky nurse in question do anything that really justified going to the unit manager and the unit manager's boss rather than taking it up with her directly. It's not clear from the OP that she did, though it's certainly possible something has been left out or lost in translation. Grumpiness and bullying are not necessarily the same thing.

2 - Even if the OP's complaint against her coworker was very legit, she kind of handled it like a bull in a china shop. The OP will not be in a better place at work for her efforts. She went to war when scouting the terrain first would've been smarter. It was counter-productive. Your proposed solution is worse still.

APRN., DNP, RN, APRN, NP · Mar 12, 2016

Be more supportive and a person with a nasty attitude is a bully. Please go somewhere else with that subjective stuff. No one here is assessing a patient!

Sweetling, no one is has come close to what you are accusing them of. You are on a nursing thread, as a student, and are telling nurses that they don't know the definition of bullying, that they are "insane", and that they should keep their opinions to themselves (again.....on an online forum).

You're not helping your case, my dear.

APRN., DNP, RN, APRN, NP · Mar 12, 2016

I've been working at my current job for almost 3 months. Just a few week off orientation working independently.
Last night I worked with 2 other nurses. One happened to be another new nurse. The nurse that had been there longer had the nastiest attitude I've ever seen. From the moment she saw the assignment posted on the board you could just tell she was upset. I'm not sure why, maybe because she would be working with the two newest nurses? She complained, rolled her eyes, made us feel like she didn't want us to be working with her, made it clear that a certain area was hers, very unhelpful as well. It was completely unprofessional.
I notified the nurse manager. Apparently they are good friends, so that wasn't very helpful with the plan that the two of them had come up with. So I sent an email to someone one step higher than my nurse manager. We'll find out today if anything has changed. Apparently this wasn't the first time that this has been an issue with this nurse. Almost makes me feel like I found the wrong job because of this one employee. Advice? Opinions? Similar situations? Please share, thank you.

In my career lifetime, I've had more situations like this unfold around me that I could possibly even keep track of.

My first reaction is thinking to myself 'ok, you're someone who bears watching'. I'm looking for trends......

If I see a trend with you that is bothersome to me, I'm going to help fix it by having a fact finding discussion with you. I want to know WHY it's happening, and HOW it's happening. (Maybe it's me? ~ maybe it's a unit-culture thing? )

"Crucial Conversations", for when the stakes are high is an invaluable program if you are hesitant to approach someone.

You have a duty to speak to the originator of the supposed issue first (unless there's a probable threat of harm).

THEN you speak to your manager with a report of date/time/conversation/result, if there continues to be a poor outcome.

THEN you speak with the director with the same (date/time/conversation/result, if there continues to be a poor outcome.