Have you ever HEARD of this?

[Town & Country]

Was contacted by a Nurse Recruiter about a "Nurse Manager" position.

This "Nurse Manager" is considered to be part of admin, but the job requirements is that you work two twelve-hour shifts on the floor; then the same week, you do two eight-hour shifts in the office.

I've never heard of this. It sounds to me like:

1. They want one body to fill two positions.

2. They are calling it "Nurse Mgr." so you will be technically admin, and have to do ALOT OF OVERTIME.

3. They need someone else in the office but aren't willing to hire anyone.

What's your take?

Personally, I'm not interested. I asked the recruiter some more questions about it and she was evasive, keeps pressuring me to send her a resume. That sort of answers my question, LOL.

What do you all think?

[oramar]

Sounds to me like they are getting ready to work someone to death. When do tell is the person who takes this job supposed to attend those 10 or 20 meetings a month that nurse managers always go to.

[Town & Country]

Yes, that was my opinion, too.

I also asked the recruiter if the twelve and eight-hour shifts were on the same shift (i.e., both starting at 7 a.m., instead of doing two night shifts and then having to work in the office.)

She didn't tell me, just said to ask them when I interview.

She pressured me to send a resume and made it sound like "time was of the essence", LOL.

The only reason I considered it is because the pay is very good, but it won't do me much good if I end up in the hospital, the morgue, or the insane asylum!

[SmilingBluEyes]

I always ask myself why a given position would be open in any situation....

to me, in this case, the answer is not hidden and I would not touch it.

You answered your own questions here......If you want to work yourself to death, this sounds like just the trick!

[BadBird, BSN, RN]

Sounds like you figured it out, I totally agree and would run from that job offer.

[OCCHCanada]

Certainly sounds fishy to me. In our region, nurse manager is just that - a manager (formally known as the head nurse).

Clinical hours are not part of that position as nurse manager is out of scope.

Managers are not permitted to claim overtime either.

I'd certainly decline.

[mother/babyRN, RN]

Sounds like they are trying to do to management what they have already often succeeded in doing to staff nurses.....I would avoid this situation, for sure!

[Town & Country]

Thank God for experience!

It's a nurse's best weapon!

LOL

:roll

[Rapheal]

Good thing your smart enough to spot the evasiveness of the recruiter. You know the old saying " Fools rush in where angels fear to tread".

[redshiloh]

Don't do it....my nurse manager's last position was like that. Salaried and EXPECTED to work 60-80 hours a week. Here, she is still working bookoo hours, but at least is compensated for it.

[sjoe]

The missing link you did not specifically state is that management positions do NOT get paid overtime. Guess what that would mean in this case?

Let some other sucker fill the position.

[TiffyRN, BSN, PhD]

A few years ago the hospital I was working at changed from traditional nurse managers to something like you described; floor time plus managerial duties/office work. It was all part of some fancy plan to "streamline" things and eliminate mid-level management. The best manager I ever had was there and she put up with it for several months then left for a teaching position. Other managers dealt with it by just short staffing their floors on the shifts they were penciled in to work (they would choose to do office work at that time). It was terrible. It finally worked to run off most of the nurse managers. For a while they had division managers handling several floors (like MICU, Stepdown, CCU) and the next level was the charge nurses who had taken over doing the eval's and schedules. That's about when I left and fortunately I haven't seen that mess again.

Yea, let this opportunity pass you by.