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:confused: Hi everyone! I'm kind of new here, and I have a question: Right now I'm in A&P and my professor is an all out atheist. I realized when I decided to go the nursing route I would encounter many scientific minds, but whew! How do you fellow believers keep this from getting to you? Just a little friendly conversation starter, not trying to start a creation vs evolution debate. Hope to hear from yall!
Actually, I never even knew whether my teachers were christian or atheist or *what* they were - the subject never came up! To me, THAT is the essence of professional teaching...
Um, what pebbles said.

The only time I knew my college instructors' religious affiliations was when they were actual Jesuit priests or Lutheran ministers--and once, when a hematologist who was, oddly enough, a Jehovah's Witness, came in to lecture my pathophys class on the clotting cascade, and also to explain why JW patients refuse to have blood transfusions.

Otherwise--not a clue as to religious affiliations--and no reason to wonder. I can't imagine anything more unprofessional than lecturing a captive audience, all of whom need your class to graduate, on your religious beliefs. How completely obnoxious.

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Originally posted by sbic56

cheerfuldoer

No disrepect, but atheists and agnostics rarely push their beliefs...that is my point.

sbic56......no disrespect taken. :kiss However, I will say that nonbelievers that I have encountered DO push their beliefs at me, and have no trouble cursing God's name in my presence.

You may have not had that experience sibic56.....but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist......because it most certainly does. Thanks for sharing your perspective on that, but don't assume just because you haven't witnessed them doing it that they don't do it. :)

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originally posted by sbic56

cheerfuldoer

no disrepect, but atheists and agnostics rarely push their beliefs...that is my point.

i am aware renee can speak for herself and your post is indirectly for me.

christians are so suppose to let their light shine. no, not compel or "push" but let our light of jesus shine in us. this is done, one by not saying one word and another by saying a word.

atheists do push their beliefs. lets not forget the lastest one, the man who did not want his daughter to say "under god"; this altered what we would like to say in a public arena that depicts what we strongly believe in.

originally posted by lpn,future, rn

......atheists do push their beliefs. lets not forget the lastest one, the man who did not want his daughter to say "under god"; this altered what we would like to say in a public arena that depicts what we strongly believe in.

who is this "we"? and why does this "we" get to have their god everyone's pledge. what god is the pledge talking about? hmmm? is this not pushing beliefs on all those who do not believe in the christian god? or what if they believe in allah or several other gods? should we be fair and add their name too? the pledge did not originally have "under god" in it. it was added in the 1950's when the us was trying to distance itself from communism.

amber

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Originally posted by sbic56

................... to me, Christianity is as big of a rip off as those vacuum cleaners, because unlike a vacuum cleaner, I can't use it.

sbic56.........that is what I find to be so sad. People always associate "Religion" and the worldly way of "Christianity" with our Creator. GOD did NOT start the various denominations anymore than Eureka can take credit for every BAD vacuum cleaner on the market! :chuckle

Seriously speaking.......your statement is written in the way a lot of people feel about "Religion" and "Christianity" because...UNFORTUNATELY...there are so many people who call themselves "Christians" who are not SAVED. Those same individuals gather together in a church building with some denominational title attached to them, and blasphemy the name of our Lord to high heaven.

I stopped going to the "house of worship" for those very reasons.....God is NOT there when those very same people pass judgment on others in ANY capacity!

I am NOT religious in the sense of the way the world views religious. I am not 'CHURCHED' in some form of false Christianity. I am a Christian because I believe in and accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior........and nothing more. Everytime I say to someone that I am a Christian......the first dang thing out of their mouth is "I use to go to church"........or "I go to a so-and-so church"........."What church do you go to?".......or "What denomination are you?" DUHHHHHH!!! NONE OF THE ABOVE......DUH!!! :chuckle

When I say I am a Christian........I am not associating my beliefs with some church or some denomination or some religious group. I ONLY associate my Beliefs with my PERSONAL and SPIRITUAL beliefs in my Creator God......I believe Jesus to be God's Only Begotten Son.....and I believe I am saved......not by my own doing......but by the grace of God through the death and resurrection of His Only Begotten Son....Jesus the Christ. PERIOD!!! I don't care to attend a "church"......but don't mind if other people choose to go to church.

I was raised in a baptist church, but never "met God" in a church. I met God on a dark scanty road in my life, and He picked me up and embraced me like a real FATHER should embrace His child.......I CHOSE TO SURRENDER my freewill to God...and He has been busy...with my permission.....cleaning me up, changing me for the best me I can be.....and opening my eyes to all the false teachings the bazillion different denominations are so into today. It is because of my personal "dark scanty road" experience, that I no longer attend a church group because my God is a loving God who does NOT turn His nose up at people just because they are "different" or "sinning" or what not. If someone invites me to attend their church with them one particular Sunday...I may go because I am now strong enough to KNOW where my beliefs really lie and come from. :)

Would a good father turn his nose up at his child, or treat his child like filth just because the child is doing something "unacceptable by society"???? NO......he wouldn't. Well.....neither does our FATHER GOD turn His nose up at people or make fun of them, or deny them His LOVE just because they misbehave, or choose to live in such a way that is totally opposite of the way God would prefer us to live. Neither would He turn His back on them just because they choose to deny Him as their Father.

Think about his folks: How many of you...or how many people do you know...who DENY their parentage because their parents do NOT fit their ideal of a parent??? God may not fit your ideal of a parent because you can't prove in a tangible form that He exist. It doesn't mean that He doesn't exist.

Church groups....their pastors, reverends, and priests PREACH things that "resemble" God's Holy Ways, but all you have to do is WATCH their WALK.......and you will know them by a DIFFERENT name......and that name is NOT of God.

In my Father's Holy Word....HE tells me that I "will know His own by their walk".......not their talk. Thanks for letting me share from my heart about my own personal belief.......not trying to convert......that's not my place to do so........but if by my WALK you come to believe........then that conversion did NOT come from just what I believe, but from the way I choose to walk in my life. :kiss

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Atheists do push their beliefs. Lets not forget the lastest one, the man who did not want his daughter to say "Under God"; this altered what we would like to say in a public arena that depicts what we strongly believe in.

LPN,Future, RN

As I said, atheists and agnostics rarely push their beliefs on others. This guy did and it became instant national news, partly because it was so rare to hear an atheist voice their views so vehemently. (Please lets not venture into this one again!!) I understand that Christianity is based on recruitment. That is how it perpetuates itself. As you say, some feel they need to "let their light shine." Good enough; so let me hold my separate beliefs, as well.

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AmberNoel

Oh boy, now you done it...opened the whole can o' worms :rolleyes:

Incidently, though...I agree with your post totally!

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Wow....

I think it is too bad what this thread has become.

Yet ANOTHER us vs them thread...

Suffice it to say that if anybody *thought* that they were PUSHING their beliefs (atheist, christian or otherwise) on others - they probably wouldn't be doing it! So therefore, even if you feel that certain groups of people push their veiws on others, it is pointless to argue over it, because people don't think that your objections will apply to what they do.

There are overly aggressive and pushy people in all walks of life. There are different degrees of pushiness.

I think we do many people a disservice by stereotyping. Just because a few Christians are rude and pushy (and yes, those people do exist)... does not mean that "christians" push themselves on others... right?

So why do these discussions always turn into labelling groups of people and stereotyping....? :o

Me, I'm "agnostic" and I just don't like pushy people in general. That goes for Christains, atheists and vacuum cleaner salesmen.... Peace, all. :kiss

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Originally posted by AmberNoel

Who is this "we"? And why does this "we" get to have their god everyone's pledge. What god is the pledge talking about? HMMM? Is this not pushing beliefs on all those who do not believe in the Christian god? Or what if they believe in Allah or several other gods? Should we be fair and add their name too? The pledge did not originally have "under god" in it. It was added in the 1950's when the US was trying to distance itself from communism.

Amber

Somehow I feel you missed the point and that was non-belivers are pushy and thus was shown by the example of getting rid of "under God" in the pledge.

There were not any attempts to present anything else.

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originally posted by sbic56

lpn,future, rn

as i said, atheists and agnostics rarely push their beliefs on others. this guy did and it became instant national news, partly because it was so rare to hear an atheist voice their views so vehemently. (please lets not venture into this one again!!) i understand that christianity is based on recruitment. that is how it perpetuates itself. as you say, some feel they need to "let their light shine." good enough; so let me hold my separate beliefs, as well.

sbic, i respect your beliefs and dare not change your beliefs. i only replied with what i felt as you did. i can agree to let this ride :)
Originally posted by LPN,Future, RN

non-belivers are pushy

:confused: I just love a good generalization now and then.

Heather

Hehe renee, in line with conversion....the biggest one I actually get is for my eating habits (i'm a strict and extremely healthy vegetarian). This irks people to no end and they feel like if they tell me "God gave us animals to eat"/"You aren't getting enough protein"/"Don't you care about your family anymore" blah blah blah...as if I'm going to shoot back "You're right, I'm so blind. Please take me to lardee's and get me a combo meal!"

I actually liked this thread...people need to speak their minds on here more often.

Brian

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