So sick of this Nurses eat the young crap. - page 4

Every time I log on here see such a thread. Well let me see. My hospital has recently decided to hire only new grads or people who were new grads and worked in nursing homes etc. I have been amazed... Read More

  1. by   SmilingBluEyes
    From what I am reading that is going on in the schools today, the generation after the Millenials will be much worse. Glad to know I will be likely retired by then.

    Helicopter parenting, "bullying" where there is none, NETY when it's constructive criticism most of the time, not letting kids be kids....

    It's just gonna get worse.
  2. by   SmilingBluEyes
    It would help to STOP using the term, NETY in schools. I remember back in the late 90s when I was in, our instructor using that term. SO of course, we came to expect it. And you what they say about self-fufilling prophecies. But I took it in stride and just put my head down, worked hard and proved myself.

    I never once thought to cry "bully" in such situations. And I did fine.
  3. by   Rose_Queen
    I read a news article today about two elementary school children who have been called gay and one even had his head smashed against a flag pole- simply because they are the children of a gay couple. That is true bullying. I've said it before and I'll say it again: calling so much of what people interpret as bullying cheapens the true definition of bullying. Constructive criticism, bluntness, not being chatty and best friend-like, heck, even rudeness is not bullying and calling it such is only a slap in the face of true victims. The victim mentality has become incredibly pervasive, and zero tolerance has only increased that disconnect between real bullying and "bullying is what I say it is".
  4. by   Spidey's mom
    SBE - I cringe when I see current instructors use that term as well.

    RoseQueen - exactly. Zero Tolerance does hurt the true victims of real bullying.

  5. by   Conqueror+
    Quote from macawake
    That would be rather difficult since I'm a 6'1'' blonde female. I don't think that you can compare the effects of an inept recent graduate, or the ineptitude of an experienced nurse either for that matter, to the effects of terrorism.

    Acts of terrorism rocks the foundation a society. Human beings have a deep-seated need for order and security and this impels societies to establish conventions, laws and boundaries to regulate violent coercion. Attacking the defenseless through an act of terror dramatically amplifies that anxiety about security and leaves people feeling profoundly vulnerable. Terror works through psychological pressure and collective alarmism is an effective facilitator. It's a well known fact the psychological effect of terrorist attacks are out of proportion to its physical effects. Add to this a dollop of good old-fashioned xenophobia and you have the answer to why men of Middle Eastern origin in general face difficulties at airport security checkpoints.

    People new to any profession are likely to not be as fast, efficient and competent as an experienced member of that same profession. They can also make mistakes. This isn't unique to nursing. Whatever negative fallout comes from a recent graduate's mistake is a zero-sum game in the sense that a new physician mistakes have about the same effect as a new nurses'. I think that using a new nurse's mistake as an excuse to say that I (or you) look like an idiot, is playing the victim card. My patients seem to trust me and think that I'm competent regardless of the mistakes that are sometimes made by others.

    I'm not so much annoyed by these so called "NETY" threads, as I am fascinated. I'm trying to figure out what psychological mechanism is behind the strong reactions I
    see in some, whenever someone brings up the "NETY" phenomenon.
    I didn't compare terrorism to new graduates. I addressed the PP who said that the actions of a few do not affect the perception of an entire group. Both of my examples are a perfect representation of my point.
  6. by   RNdh
    I'm sick of reading posts from people who think "your" and "you're" are interchangeable.
  7. by   XNavyCorpsman
    "enable them to practice safely at the level of a beginning nurse". The NCLEX is a test to determine whether you can "practice at the level of a beginning nurse".
  8. by   BuckyBadgerRN
    Quote from RNdh
    I'm sick of reading posts from people who think "your" and "you're" are interchangeable.
    You mean there not?
  9. by   BrandonLPN
    Quote from RNdh
    I'm sick of reading posts from people who think "your" and "you're" are interchangeable.
    Me to.
  10. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from BrandonLPN
    Me to.
  11. by   SweetOldWorld
    Nursing educators are not all that highly paid, unfortunately. Perhaps that is part of the problem.

    Quote from jadelpn
    OP, just an observation--

    Behind a whole bucket load of nurses who are thrown on units and have little idea on what they are supposed to be doing, how to do what they know they should be doing, and attempting to get other nurses to do what they could be doing....

    Is a highly paid nurse educator. What is it that he/she is doing?
  12. by   Susie2310
    Quote from XNavyCorpsman
    "enable them to practice safely at the level of a beginning nurse". The NCLEX is a test to determine whether you can "practice at the level of a beginning nurse".
    It is good form to quote the person you are replying to.

    One can pass the NCLEX and not be able to practice safely as a beginning nurse.

    The examples given by the OP of new nurses who were not practicing safely and did not even know this, and were failing to think critically and use the nursing process, are examples of new nurses not practicing safely at the level of beginning nurses.
    Last edit by Susie2310 on Apr 5, '15
  13. by   Conqueror+
    I had a new grad attempting to flush a G-Tube. As a rookie she didn't know that the answer was not to simply apply more pressure when the tube wouldn't flush. Of course the tube "backfired" and chunky bits of fermenty feeding splattered her face and arms. She immediately whipped out her cell phone that she was quite addicted to and called 911 from the bedside.

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