Is this a fair holiday schedule - page 3

I work 3, 12 hour night shifts. We are required to work 2 out of 3 holidays. I got Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve. 12 hour night shift. The new schedule came out and I'm scheduled Halloween,... Read More

  1. by   ruby_jane
    Is the holiday policy applied across the board? Meaning, is everyone working at least one of those days? "Fair" is what happens every year in Dallas about this time.

    The year I spent working in a hospital was enough to convince me that no shift differential would make up for me working nights over a holiday. When I worked for the state, we had some odd state holidays for which we also covered our clinic.

    You're obviously a critical staff. Come join us in school nursing - we're not considered critical and we get a week at Thanksgiving, two weeks' winter break, and 10 weeks off in the summer!
  2. by   neonn965
    I am going to be the outlier here and say that is ridiculous. I would seriously not continue to work somewhere if that was going to be my holiday schedule. On my unit, there are prime holiday shifts and non-prime holiday shifts. Prime: Christmas Eve night shift, Christmas Day day shift, NYE night shift, NY Day day shift. Non-prime: Christmas Eve day shift, Christmas Day night shift, NYE day shift, NY Day night shift. On our unit you never have to work two primes (i.e. exactly what you have, both eve night shifts).

    Now you don't get to celebrate with your family on either holiday, because let's be realistic here, New Year's happens on eve night shift and prime Christmas celebration hours are on the late portion of the eve and Christmas morning. My Christmas celebrations are done by Christmas evening and I would hardly even consider New Year's Day night shift a holiday.

    As for Thanksgiving, once again, that's ridiculous. On our unit Thanksgiving for night shift is the the actual night of Thanksgiving. I got Thanksgiving off this year and I actually chose to work Wednesday night shift. I will be up in plenty of time to go to Thanksgiving dinner. You'll have to leave early, or miss it entirely, and you certainly can't participate in having any adult beverages and/or truly relaxing with your family if you do get to go to the early portion of the celebration. IMO you got all three of the worst shifts for winter holidays.

    As for Halloween and black Friday, I don't really get your issue. If you wanted them off then you should have requested them off. I always want Halloween off so I request it. Not enough people care about Halloween day to request it so I always get it off.
  3. by   Neats
    I remember one year I worked Thanksgiving, the day after Thanksgiving, and then Christmas eve, Christmas day, and new years.

    My hubby brought in our kids Christmas presents and when the residents went to be (around 9PM) my kids had their Christmas eve tradition of opening their presents...It was what it was, I had a job and that job allowed me to put food on the table and buy Christmas presents for our kids.
  4. by   Kooky Korky
    OP, what about Christmas and NY?

    I have never worked anywhere where line staff could vacation at a holiday time, but then someone would be granted vacation anyway. And the managers and Admin were often on vacation over Christmas or TG.

    Try working outside a 24/7 facility (clinic, school, doc's office, Public Health, might be others that will come to mind later) or go into Management if you really hate working holidays.

    The topic is always a major problem in Nursing, Law Enforcement, Fire Departments, TV and radio work, animal hospitals or shelters, homeless shelters, probably some other lines of work. The military, state and fed (maybe some local) government emergency workers - some of these are overseas far from loved ones. We really need to remember them all the time but particularly during these holidays. And during holidays that are special to other religious groups, as not all celebrate Christmas.

    Here's wishing everyone a great holiday season in advance.
  5. by   ruby_jane
    Quote from Kooky Korky
    The topic is always a major problem in Nursing, Law Enforcement, Fire Departments, TV and radio work, animal hospitals or shelters, homeless shelters, probably some other lines of work. The military, state and fed (maybe some local) government emergency workers - some of these are overseas far from loved ones. We really need to remember them all the time but particularly during these holidays. And during holidays that are special to other religious groups, as not all celebrate Christmas.

    Here's wishing everyone a great holiday season in advance.
    That's awesome, actually!!! Thank you for the reminder.
  6. by   hppygr8ful
    Quote from sweet sunshine
    I'm not saying Halloween and Black Friday are holidays. Just days that a lot of people request off especially Halloween if you have young children.
    When my son was little I traded off Halloween with a nurse whose family thought the whole thing was an evil abomination. She traded with me every year that I worked with her.

    I stay as far away from stores on Black Friday - to big an invitation to spend money I don't need to spend.

    Hppy
  7. by   Kooky Korky
    Quote from hppygr8ful
    When my son was little I traded off Halloween with a nurse whose family thought the whole thing was an evil abomination. She traded with me every year that I worked with her.

    I stay as far away from stores on Black Friday - to big an invitation to spend money I don't need to spend.

    Hppy
    And the crowds are horrible.
  8. by   Horseshoe
    Until this thread, I never knew anyone would specifically request to have off on Black Friday.

    I would rather go to the dentist (and I hate going to the dentist) than go shopping on Black Friday.
  9. by   psu_213
    Quote from Horseshoe
    Until this thread, I never knew anyone would specifically request to have off on Black Friday.

    I would rather go to the dentist (and I hate going to the dentist) than go shopping on Black Friday.
    Not only do I know of people who request it off, I know of people who use PTO!

    Personally, I hate even driving anywhere near a mall on Black Friday. But, there is a reason why stores open up on Thanksgiving night.
  10. by   Been there,done that
    Quote from Horseshoe
    Until this thread, I never knew anyone would specifically request to have off on Black Friday.

    I would rather go to the dentist (and I hate going to the dentist) than go shopping on Black Friday.
    It's not just Black Friday for shopping.It is the Friday between a holiday and a weekend. EVERYBODY wants it off. One of the few days I could not even request off, even working from home. Administration just said NO in advance.
  11. by   StrwbryblndRN
    I've learned that I do not need a holiday to enjoy my family. I am more than happy to celebrate Christmas in January. I know I am in the minority here but I went into nursing understanding this and accept it. I have argued a few times specifically when a new nurse self schedules 4 days off in a row and it would include Christmas eve, Christmas, Friday and Saturday; and management approves it by doing nothing. That is truly unfair.
  12. by   hppygr8ful
    Here's a funny thing. At the facility where I work we cannot request holidays off. We work the holiday if it falls on our regularly scheduled workday. What this means is we get the day off roughly every 7 years. The staffing coordinator can call us off if census and acuity are low and senior employees can request to be first called off but that's it. Like others here we celebrate as a family when we can and it actually gets me out of planning/hosting holiday events in my home. I work 8's so there's still plenty of time to get to my sister's house. She enjoys putting on such events.

    Hppy
  13. by   rehabnurse1
    I volunteer to work Christmas every year. My kids are older and we celebrate Christmas eve anyway. I don't like Black Friday shopping but I like the day off because I need to recover from all the food I ate on Thanksgiving. We can request days off on the weeks of the holidays but they are not guaranteed. And no PTO is allowed during those weeks.

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