Is there ANY reason for Experienced nurses to be Rude to New Nurses??

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I am a new nurse, graduated in September, passed board November 30th and started Orienting December 31st. I just finished my 7th week and until now have been very lucky as far as having most of the nurses I work with be very supportive and nice. I work on a very busy 32 bed Med-Surg/Ortho floor and have worked on this same floor for 3 years before becoming a nurse. I should also mention that I am an LVN, not an RN. Anyways, there is a nurse on Night shift, who has been working as a nurse about a year now. She is much younger than I am. I am 40. Friday was my second day with 5 patients on my own, with my preceptor watching over me. I had my hardest/busiest day yet this past Friday. I had 5 patients. One was a partial gastrectomy patient, one was a lap chole, one was a paraplegic with a flap closure for a decubitus, one was a total knee and the other a lumbar lami. So I had a good group. My patient with the gastrectomy was very busy. She was getting meds every few hours, she was on TPN and Lipids. Neither of which I have had to deal with yet. The patient with the knee replacement was going home, so was the Lami patient. I had critical lab values called to me, Another first. This day was FULL of first time things for me. I also received a PACU patient who had a bulging to the right side of his incision which the PACU nurse had said gotten bigger since he was in PACU. The Dr ordered a STAT MRI so I also had to do my first consent for MRI and all the paperwork. Then my gastrectomy patient got orders for remicade because of her crohns. So Even though I can't hang that I had to do all the pre-paperwork. Weigh her, do the questionnaire etc. My preceptor hung and monitored it because the rate needed to be increased every 15 mins. I also had 2 patients who needed accu checks. One patient required coverage twice. This patient also had a foley which was putting out bloody urine and the report I got from the night nurse was that the output wasn't good enough. Well I made him my priority at the beginning of the day and it just lasted till shift change. Long story short with him was that we scanned him because he was complaining and there was 253 mls of urine in his bladder. Got orders to flush, couldn't flush so we got orders to pull the foley out, wait an hour to see if he could void, he did, but it was just barely under 100. Scanned him again, 507. Got a coude catheter and put it in and a clot came through the tube, bloody urine and cloudy urine. BTW, the old cath had a clot in the tip when I removed it.

Well I guess my first mistake was that when I wrote the orders in the chart to flush, I wrote it a page back. My preceptor noticed and started writing it on the right page, but crossed it out when she saw my order. Ok the next morning when I came in, the night nurse YELLED at me that she had to call the Dr for an order to flush the catheter because there wasn't one written. I found my order and she still kept on going. I was apologizing profusely. But she would NOT let up. She just kept going on and on and on, and all the other nurses there said Oh she DID write the order! Then on her way out she says very rudely and loudly in passing by "OH and the Protonix (iv push) wasn't given and neither were the dulcolax suppositories" and she just walked away. My preceptor then jumped in. #1, I KNEW about the protonix and asked my preceptor to give it, and she said we could leave it for nights because she was doing the remicade which would be much more time consuming for this nurse to deal with at shift change since it needed to be increased every 15 mins. The protonix was due at 7PM. she still wouldn't let up and then stormed out and said "I DON'T CARE DON'T MAKE EXCUSES" OMG, I was mortified and humiliated! Yes, I am new, Yes I wrote the order in the wrong spot, but it was an empty spot. I guess I didn't think to move it up. I was having a bad day! As for the dulcolax, it was not in the emar before i left and wasn't put into the emar until 5AM the next morning. I have no clue why, the other meds that were there on the same order were put in and given at 6:30PM by me. So if all I did was write an order in the wrong place, well considering my day I am pretty ok with that.

My whole point of this is WHY do experienced nurses feel it's just ok to be RUDE. I mean, I can accept constructive criticism, but she was being rude, she was walking around just saying it in the middle of the station at shift change with ALL day and night shift nurses present. I can understand if she says to me hey, you wrote an order in the wrong spot, or she could have even called me at home, but she was just flat our RUDE. She is a NEW nurse her self. (1 year old) But I felt she handled it poorly.

Believe me I am humbled, I don't presume to know everything, I know where I came from. I am just really hurt. This nurse and I worked side by side for YEARS as CNA's before she became a nurse and it seems as though it went straight to her head. No one is perfect.

I know I can handle my job. I know I love my job and I know I still have a lot to learn, but I feel there is NO reason for people to be rude to new nurses, to reduce us to tears. Being rude won't help me learn, it has only made me not like this person very much!

Oh and by the way, this day that was very hectic for me, I was assigned a student nurse which only put more pressure on me. I don't feel ready to have a student with me, I am still new myself, but I can't help who the instructor assigns. I am not saying that in a bad way, but I want students to have someone who is REALLY good at what they do.

Oh well, sorry oto whine, but I am very hurt by this incident

Specializes in ORTHOPAEDICS-CERTIFIED SINCE 89.

i'm a 33 year rn.

there are mean people in this world.

you are not a mean person (i can tell)

your co-worker apparently was born with her knickers in a knot.

you need to perfect that most important nursing tool:

the look.

the look doesn't frown, smile,speak. it is just the look.

when this co-worker makes an error do not judge, laugh or criticise. just the look. if she asks for help give it. then give the look and go about the business of being a quality nurse.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

Please don't generalize the traits of this one experienced nurse on us all.

It is never o.k. for anyone to be rude to anyone at any time. Unfortunately there are rude people in our society.

It is not a tradition to eat our young.

Specializes in Day Surgery/Infusion/ED.
Please don't generalize the traits of this one experienced nurse on us all.

It is never o.k. for anyone to be rude to anyone at any time. Unfortunately there are rude people in our society.

It is not a tradition to eat our young.

Thank you. Sometimes I feel like a broken record saying that over and over.

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
I am going on for my RN for sure. I went the LVN route because of the waiting lists in our state (I am in California). I only have 3 pre-reqs left and they will take me a year to complete. Then I can bridge. the timing was right for me to do the LVN program when I did because my husband had just sold his business and was staying home with the kids. I am starting back next semester.

*** Well I wish you the best of luck. Sounds like you will make a good RN. I was an LPN for many years myself. Not to hijack the thread but if coming to Wisconsin for a while is an option for you, you could go to my alma matter and go from LVN to RN in two 16 week semesters with no waiting list. Can start each fall.

http://www.swtc.edu

There are rude people every where. Just , smile and know that she is not worth your time. What comes around - goes- around. Just get through orientation. Remember that experience when you precept someone. Use mistakes (within reason) to teach someone. Sounds like you knew exactley what was going on with your pt's. Good job. And by-the-way, yes it is too soon to have a student with you. I'll never understand why it's so important to have a ms in nursing, and then, then when the college is short of "smart nurses", staff nurses are all of the sudden "smart enough" to teach students. Leave it up the the instructor.

I am a RN x 17 years. I want to apologize for all the rude, mean and nasty nurses out there. I do not know how "Eating our young" became tradition, but it has. I would like to ask you to do a few things for our profession.

1. Remember how this experience made you feel and never do it to anyone else.

2. Tuck this experience away some place safe.

3. Once you have a few years experience start your plan.

4. Lead by example. Encourage your team members to follow your lead.

We must change this attitude. Even if it is only 1 person at a time.

Excellent, excellent post.

And whoever said, "only apologize once"...also good advice.

Sorry you had to deal with that; sounds like you did a good job.

Specializes in ER.

Even if your completely and utterly wrong her response was inappropriate and unprofessional. Once you get that over the top reaction the best response is to just look at them, no reaction, no anger, just silence. They will eventually stop- just walk away. You've stoodup to them silently and everyone, including them, will get the message.

Specializes in Critical Care, Pediatrics, Geriatrics.

This nurse is probably rude to everyone, on and off duty.

Don't sweat it. You know the mistakes you made, and you owned up to them. You know not to repeat them.

You also know where Ms. Prissy Pants slacked off too! The pot calling the kettle black?

Good thing your preceptor backed you up and showed you support! If she, or anyone else, ever yells at you in front of your co-workers again...calmly ask them to lower their voice and speak to you privately or you will be forced to get the manager. That will shut them up!

As you can tell...I don't tolerate disrespect very well.

I am also a firm believer in PRN's "LOOK"

Specializes in ICU, CCU, Trauma, neuro, Geriatrics.

If I may I would like to add a light note about the negative people? They are under personally inflicted 24/7 stress, they are stressing their bodies just like drug and alcohol abusers. Their heart has to endure epi jolts quite often as they rage and get red in the face and yell at a co-worker. At this time their kidney function probably gets close to shut-down to try to save a few other organs. The lungs are possibly the healthiest organ as they get used the most with all the bellowing. The brain is rarely used prior to bellowing so it is shrinking rapidy due to lack of need. They usually binge eat after an attack just like a lion so they over carb and sugar and are killing their pancreas slowly. The gall bladder has usually been removed if they are 35 or older so it is no longer suffering. Skin afflictions on those angry with life are very common also, scratchers with scabs and lesions.

Specializes in Cardiac, ER.

There is NEVER a reason to be rude, period. I agree w/Franksters,..learn from this,..when your behind and frustrated w/that student nurse who just doesn't seem to be "getting it",..take a breath,.smile,..say a kind word,.she/he will remember you and you will sleep better at night!

I agree w/ the other posts too,..only apologize once and never apologize for doing your job,.ie "Dr. Smith, I'm sorry for bothering you, but" ,...huge pet peeve of mine,..if you need the Dr, call him/her it's your responsibility and the Dr's to care for your pt's!!

I'm sorry this happened to you,.but don't let it get this nurse bring you down to her level,.you are better than that!!

Good luck to you!!

Specializes in Telemetry, Oncology, Progressive Care.

Being a new nurse I don't think this was a case of an experienced nurse being rude to a new nurse. It was just a rude nurse period.

In life there are rude people and there are others who are not rude. I have come across new nurses who are rude. It is just their personality. Why they ever chose to go into nursing is beyond me. I can only imagine how they are with their patients.

I have only been a nurse for 7 months and I have had to develop the mentality that I can't get it all done on my shift. I work days from 7 am - 7 pm and when I have 4-5 patients who all have the same primary doctor and said doctor writes an average of 10 different orders at 4 p.m. for each patient I am going to have to leave some of it for the next shift. I feel extremely bad about it but I'm not going to stay to carry out those orders. I try to do the most important tasks (meds, foleys, etc.). As it was I stayed plenty late just to finish my charting.

Kelly

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