Gah! So much judgement on all nurses....... - page 3

I have been a member of this site for a long time....mostly just to occasionally browse or look something up. Lately I've been on a lot, as I am heading back to school and doing a lot of research. I... Read More

  1. by   VivaLasViejas
    Quote from carolmaccas66
    Actually, I've found the opposite to be true when working very closely with all males.
    I worked with plastic and burns & other surgeons for a long time, and when they were annoyed, they just told you straight, then the problem was solved. The guys didn't harp on about it, or bring it up in the next argument. It was a pretty volatile work place, but we all said what we wanted when we wanted and then it was over and done with.
    I found that better than all the snide, nasty remarks that are posted on here by what appear to be mostly women, as in real life.
    You know, as much as I hate to admit it, there is a very large grain of truth in that.

    Of course, as I grow older, I seem to feel more like "Gads, there is WAY too much estrogen in this room!", and have come to prefer the direct route that drives straight through a problem. I hate the cattiness and the hormone-driven BS of a female-dominated workplace---I'd much rather work for a man, as I do now.

    It helps that my boss and I are good friends, but we don't always see things the same way; the thing is, whenever we disagree, we just get down to it and fight it out until we fix it. There's no shilly-shallying, no going around the problem---we just confront it and move on. (We also will sit back and get a few chuckles watching all the 20- and 30-something girls go through their dramas......these are entertaining, if not always useful in getting the job done.)

    And we NEVER hold grudges.....one day recently, we were talking about the myriad issues our "problem child" with the Munchausen's continues to create, and Mike thought for a minute that I was trying to throw that it in his face that he was the one who admitted the guy over my objections. Well, that was news to me, because it had never even occurred to me to hold that against him, even though it was a bad admission and we both know it---what's done is done, now we've just got to find some way to get this character OUT of our facility and into a proper care setting so life can go on. After we cleared that up, he said, "Oh yeah, I keep forgetting, you're one of those women who don't let their hormones run their lives. You know.......an ADULT."
  2. by   Art_Vandelay
    Oh no you didn't!

    J/K J/K I swear!!!
  3. by   GadgetRN71
    Quote from tele jelly
    Again, while I agree with you nurses are blunt and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with it, that was not my point at all. And i don't think anyone has a problem handling disagreement either. None of that was my observation or original point.
    Some of us could make the point that there's been a run on posts that complain about how "mean" AN is. If it is not to your liking, why post here? Not saying it to be mean, just wondering why you'd subject yourself to something you dislike?

    Am I judgmental? Yep, if judgmental means opinionated. If someone posts asking for my opinion, you can bet they'll get an honest answer back.

    Far too much PC stuff these days. People need to toughen up.
  4. by   xtxrn
    Quote from GadgetRN71

    Am I judgmental? Yep, if judgmental means opinionated. If someone posts asking for my opinion, you can bet they'll get an honest answer back.

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    Opinions (IMHO) are based on personal beliefs, preferences, etc.....Judgmental goes after somebody else..... To me, they're worlds apart.
  5. by   JeneraterRN
    Quote from xtxrn
    Opinions (IMHO) are based on personal beliefs, preferences, etc.....Judgmental goes after somebody else..... To me, they're worlds apart.
    I'm sorry xtxrn, but I have to ask you this-weren't you going to give up this site for this very reason? Your recent thread regarding the rudeness of allnurses lead me to believe so.
  6. by   irish6363
    I would also agree that there are some posters that really turn every post into a debate rather that a thread about a certain topic.
    Last edit by irish6363 on Jul 23, '11
  7. by   xtxrn
    Quote from JeneraterRN
    I'm sorry xtxrn, but I have to ask you this-weren't you going to give up this site for this very reason? Your recent thread regarding the rudeness of allnurses lead me to believe so.
    True. A few AN folks PM'd me, and kindly showed me how to look at things differently. Would you rather I was gone?
  8. by   diva rn
    NO, not at all.

    It just seemed like your comments in the other thread were so final. It was a surprise to me too to see you here.
    Again, I am one of the people who get riled up when the continual repetitive posts are made and the really ridiculous topics are posted as well (like what is your IQ and can you do my homework) and I can be short and I am sure some would say ****** when I come across topics such as these. But when I see those topics that are truely either informative or a call for opinions or help--I try like crazy to offer whatever information I have or experiences I have been through, or condolences and encouragement if need be.

    So certainly not all not all of he threads/posts on AN are judgemental....in fact, I'd say a very small number.
    As far as your leaving, no I wouldn't want you to leave, I would like you to keep a more open mind though and see through our eyes when we answer the same question for the 100th time in 3 weeks by 100 different people.
    Last edit by TheCommuter on Jul 24, '11 : Reason: profanity
  9. by   xtxrn
    Point taken- and the PMs I got were along those lines- yet away from the forums, so not as volatile

    I'm not normally all that sensitive (and have much more of a backbone, that I was accused of not having)- being online again is new. I haven't had a computer that worked for about 2 years. I've been more frustrated, partly because this is my only contact with other people (which isn't anybody's problem here, but is a reason I was more uptight). And, I see so many changes in how people 'talk' to each other that I can't do anything about (but don't have to like or respect, either ).

    I asked that my thread be stopped- it was not what I had intended at all- and I do see the point of the OP here. There is a lot of nitpicking and refusal to understand the original message (per the OPs attempts to explain on a couple of threads I've seen- for their threads- not saying the same OP here ). Had someone said something in a 'tone' that made the same points without the hostility, my thread would have been over and done with.

    I miss nursing a lot- this is all I've got to connect with other nurses (except at my own MD appointments, which isn't as peers).

    As anywhere, there will always be hostile, nasty, confrontational, and belittling people- I just have to remember that as I get used to contact with people again And remember that they have to live with themselves- I don't !
  10. by   JeneraterRN
    Quote from xtxrn
    True. A few AN folks PM'd me, and kindly showed me how to look at things differently. Would you rather I was gone?
    No, not at all, I was just curious why you stayed. You seemed very upset. I'm glad you found some resolution.
  11. by   xtxrn
    Thanks

    Yeah, I had calmed down some finding the e-mail notification settings (lol), which I got changed, and then got the PMs, from a staff member, and several AN members, showing me different ways of looking at what was going on- that helped

    I own up to being really touchy last night. Not used to people 'talking' so rudely (not same as being up front and honest !)- and some of that is me just having to put up with it if I want any human contact

    It's been fun tonight !
  12. by   VivaLasViejas
    I'm glad, xtxrn. I enjoy your posts as well!

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